Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
unfortunately, i messed up big and couldnt post because of my ban, so my plants are bad shape now.
of my 4 plants, 3 are almost totally dead from overwatering on saturday. all the fan leaves have drooped and gone crispy, and the stems have turned yellowy.
the other one is ok, but its got a small amount of nute burn in its leaves that should dissipate soon i hope.
the plants are all about 5 weeks flowering, and my seed-bearer is one of the dying ones, which is the root of my upset. if i dont get viable seeds, the strain is dead...
ive put several holes in the soil, purposly severing some of the smaller roots in the process in hopes of exposing tips to the now moist soil.
its good conditions now, but will the plants rebound?:(
ps: the pots all have drainage holes, but due to a crap mix of mg moisture control and seedling soil, it wont flush, but instead waterlogged and drowned the girls.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
No pics, no clear diagnosis.
Doesn't sound like overwatering alone. Sounds like overfert or pH or both. 'Crispy' doesn't come from excess water alone.
Why would you purposely damage roots on an already stressed plant?
Drill more holes, and big ones, in the sides of your pot as an emergency measure to get more oxygen to the root zone.
You couldn't post, but you could still read, and this is advice that has been given to a couple other people recently with soggy dirt problems...
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
placing your pots in a sink or somewhere at an extreme angle will force some of the water out due to gravity. you might also try placing a fan in a position to blow on the top of the medium. i like to use a couple tooth-picks to till up the medium. it'll expose more of the damp soil that's underneath.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
i believe the medium is safe now, but the plants arnt. as for other threads, i searched overwater, overwatered, over-water, etc, and found no clear solutions for a dying plant.
ill go get pics, hold in there.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
here are the pics. as you can see, the plants themselves are pretty small and scraggly due to minimal light for most of thier life. (ive got a 600w hps on its way)
however, my consern is the first picture's plant is heavily seeded with all the pollen of my chucked males. unfortunately, the backup pollination of maybe 20 seeds was done on another dying plant.
luckily, i was carless at pollination, and the survivor is carrying 3 seeds that i could locate, but still.....
how can these plants be saved, or at least the seeds? cloning appears to have failed, with the cutting being bone dry itself. i just hope the seeds will get a bit more growth and have a chance at some form of viability....:(
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
Those are not the symptoms of overwatering.
Nitrogen overdose and suffocation come to mind.
Do you have any ventilation at all in there? What is [was] your feeding schedule?
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
not overwater? considering i watered it more than usual saturday, and found it begining to wilt monday in damp soil, its what im calling.
i was giving it (crappy) solid nutes (the kind you give every 3-4 weeks). i had given it its most recent and final dosage about a week ago, but i dont imagine it was the cause of problems since i used VERY limited amounts.
as for ventilation, i put a fan in during the wilting hoping it would help, unfortunately never had one prior.
ive unfortunately overwatered before and i played out this way, my soil is not good for flushing...
either way, overwatering or nitrogen overdose, how can it be saved if at all?
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
i hate to sound like a jerk, but reading your last 2 posts, it sounds like you just kept dissin these plants. the pics don't look good. it sounds like you did everything wrong!
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
I agree wholeheartedly with Stinky on this one. Those plants look like they're suffering from nutrient burn to me.
If the nutrients that you added aren't instantly soluble in water, then it's really a crap-shoot as to when they'll become available to the roots. Possibly by over-watering, you broke down enough of the fertilizer for it to get absorbed all at once, instead of a gradual release over time. I used the time-release granules and the fert sticks on my first grow, and ended up running into all sorts of nutrient problems. Many of which were misdiagnosed for other ailments.
Get a strong fan inside that room to start circulating air around the plants. Keep it on full blast if you have to, just don't train it directly on the plants themselves. That'll help aide in evening out the soil moisture. Unfortunately, though, should you be looking at nutrient toxicity...there's not much that can be done besides an emergency flush. A lot of times, by the time you notice that the plants have been burned, there's really not a whole lot that can be done to save them.
Worst case scenario: learn from your mistakes, and do better next time. That's how about 99.9% of the cannabis growing community learns how to best care for their plants. I wish ya the best of luck.
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Solid nutes meaning granules or spikes, and did you dissolve them in water prior to use?
Anyway it's all moot; those plants are beyond saving.
Next time though... ventilation, correct nutes, correct soil, correct pot size.
Read the sticky in my sig. It would have saved you a lot of problems.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
Here's my 2 cent's, Im not at all dissagreeing with Stinky and Mr. Clad , but from experience ive had a plant that looked just like yours and I thought she was dead and everybody told me it was useless because it was so ugly haha but I flushed the hell out of it and gave it extra attention and a little more then a week later I saw signs that it was getting healthy again. The plant did fine and produced some pretty nice buds.
IMO, If that was my plant ( and I know everyone who read's this will dissagree with me ) id pull off all the dead leaves ( be sure that they are 100% dead ) and I would just try to keep her growing, sure if you dont see any signs in like 2 weeks then id kill it but why not just stick it out another 1 or 2 and see if she pulls through, It just kills me to see and plant die.
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thanks, i figure its beyond saving unfortunately. however, nutrient burn would resemble wilting?
so you suggest that i actually flush the crap out of em??? im pretty sure thats what killed em, but im getting desperate.
im becoming desperate for seeds for next grow, should i consider trying to herm the survivor? its only carrying 2-3 seeds that i could pinpoint (5 at most) and i want more.
will making it herm cause complete pollination? and since itsd a forced hermi, will seeds be hermiing genetics? and is the asprin method best for hermying? its about 3-4 weeks till harvest and i want seeds ASAP
ive planted green seeds from some dead buds, but they didnt feel at all viable, but ill see if any of the 5 grow.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
PS: my soil is garbage and i feel flushing will guarenteed cause overwatering....what then?
the three i overwatered got about 2 cups of water each in already moist soil BTW.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
OK, i realized that stink is actually onto something. the surviving plant has had crispy leaves since that watering also, so it must be the stupid ferts...
ive heavily flushed the 3 with about 3-4 cups of water each so that a good cup or more drained out.
anything else i can do, since it is a bad soil for flushing, and i dont want to nuteburn AND DROWN the survivor by trying to flush it.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
So let me make sure I have this straight. You yourself are saying that you have:
1. Crappy soil
2. Crappy lighting
3. Crappy drainage
4. Crappy nutes.
I don't see anything postive there at all......not one decent thing for the plant to try and survive on. At the VERY VERY least you need better soil (NO nutes) and better drainage.
Good luck.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
the bad drainage is a result of the bad soil. (MG moisture control mixed with seedling soil-holds stupid amounts of water)
light was crap, but now i have a 600w hps rig
nutes.........well they still suck, but im getting new liguid stuff ASAP when i get new soils
my shopping list is soil, liquid flowering nutes, moisture metre, ph meter
this grow is more or less screwed i think. any way of saving overnuting of nitrogen a week later when the plant appears totally dry? or at least any way to have a good chance germinating a green, unfinished seed?
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
Doesn't sound like it. You can try transplanting to different soil but you are still asking for a miracle in my opinion. Nuteburned plants are the very hard to fix....once burned that part of the plant is ruined...your only real hope is for new growth to start appearing. I just don't see that happening here because you are halfway through flowering and it most likely is just too much of a major shock on the plant. Don't have anything to lose by trying though.
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
well i super-flushed them like i said. ive spent about an hour pruning some of the buds that are guarenteed dead anyways-----got about 7g here once it cures fully
gotta say, they are damn sticky buds...hope ill save some genetics for next grow...
im gonna reveg the surviving plant once i harvest. how do i do that? just pull buds, or cut only the top half right off?
while trimming i mauled a green seed by accident, but it seems pretty heathy inside. think green seeds'll grow? they can detach from the caylx fine...
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
Nothing will happen with any of them until you get them into better conditions. Just harvesting the plant and cutting off the top half is not going to fix it for you. The plant will not survive unless you can fix the problem. (and even then only if you work fast and are VERY lucky :wtf:) If you still have any of the above issues (poor soil, too much nutes, or poor drainage) you are still going to lose that plant for sure.
I would doubt that a half grown seed is viable but again.....why not try? I certainly wouldn't count on it to germinate but what harm can come from giving it a go? I think you are are going to need new seeds though......really doesn't sound like you have any usable ones there. :(
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i planted about 8 of em and will cross my fingers...
the one i was refering to for reveg was the one thats still alive. how is that best done?
also, on a possibly happy note, i noticed that the bottom of the stem on one plant was a light, unhealthy shade of green, which is 100X better than the top which is just yellow...could this mean a revival???
Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?
SOunds like a start to me, Like I said dude just give it time and prpoer care and FIX those problems and she may pull through.
Juat tap your heels 3 times then spin in a circle and say " shibbidy booo baaaa ", that also may help.