Ive Overwatered-am i screwed?

[klondike_bar]

unfortunately, i messed up big and couldnt post because of my ban, so my plants are bad shape now.

of my 4 plants, 3 are almost totally dead from overwatering on saturday. all the fan leaves have drooped and gone crispy, and the stems have turned yellowy.

the other one is ok, but its got a small amount of nute burn in its leaves that should dissipate soon i hope.

the plants are all about 5 weeks flowering, and my seed-bearer is one of the dying ones, which is the root of my upset. if i dont get viable seeds, the strain is dead...

ive put several holes in the soil, purposly severing some of the smaller roots in the process in hopes of exposing tips to the now moist soil.

its good conditions now, but will the plants rebound?

ps: the pots all have drainage holes, but due to a crap mix of mg moisture control and seedling soil, it wont flush, but instead waterlogged and drowned the girls.

klondike_bar Reviewed by klondike_bar on 12-06-2007. Ive Overwatered-am i screwed? unfortunately, i messed up big and couldnt post because of my ban, so my plants are bad shape now. of my 4 plants, 3 are almost totally dead from overwatering on saturday. all the fan leaves have drooped and gone crispy, and the stems have turned yellowy. the other one is ok, but its got a small amount of nute burn in its leaves that should dissipate soon i hope. the plants are all about 5 weeks flowering, and my seed-bearer is one of the dying ones, which is the root of my upset. if i Rating: 5

[stinkyattic]

No pics, no clear diagnosis.
Doesn't sound like overwatering alone. Sounds like overfert or pH or both. 'Crispy' doesn't come from excess water alone.
Why would you purposely damage roots on an already stressed plant?

Drill more holes, and big ones, in the sides of your pot as an emergency measure to get more oxygen to the root zone.

You couldn't post, but you could still read, and this is advice that has been given to a couple other people recently with soggy dirt problems...

[Ophistello]

placing your pots in a sink or somewhere at an extreme angle will force some of the water out due to gravity. you might also try placing a fan in a position to blow on the top of the medium. i like to use a couple tooth-picks to till up the medium. it'll expose more of the damp soil that's underneath.

[klondike_bar]

i believe the medium is safe now, but the plants arnt. as for other threads, i searched overwater, overwatered, over-water, etc, and found no clear solutions for a dying plant.

ill go get pics, hold in there.

[klondike_bar]

here are the pics. as you can see, the plants themselves are pretty small and scraggly due to minimal light for most of thier life. (ive got a 600w hps on its way)

however, my consern is the first picture's plant is heavily seeded with all the pollen of my chucked males. unfortunately, the backup pollination of maybe 20 seeds was done on another dying plant.

luckily, i was carless at pollination, and the survivor is carrying 3 seeds that i could locate, but still.....


how can these plants be saved, or at least the seeds? cloning appears to have failed, with the cutting being bone dry itself. i just hope the seeds will get a bit more growth and have a chance at some form of viability....

[stinkyattic]

Those are not the symptoms of overwatering.
Nitrogen overdose and suffocation come to mind.
Do you have any ventilation at all in there? What is [was] your feeding schedule?

[klondike_bar]

not overwater? considering i watered it more than usual saturday, and found it begining to wilt monday in damp soil, its what im calling.

i was giving it (crappy) solid nutes (the kind you give every 3-4 weeks). i had given it its most recent and final dosage about a week ago, but i dont imagine it was the cause of problems since i used VERY limited amounts.

as for ventilation, i put a fan in during the wilting hoping it would help, unfortunately never had one prior.

ive unfortunately overwatered before and i played out this way, my soil is not good for flushing...


either way, overwatering or nitrogen overdose, how can it be saved if at all?

[Ophistello]

i hate to sound like a jerk, but reading your last 2 posts, it sounds like you just kept dissin these plants. the pics don't look good. it sounds like you did everything wrong!

[Mr. Clandestine]

I agree wholeheartedly with Stinky on this one. Those plants look like they're suffering from nutrient burn to me.

If the nutrients that you added aren't instantly soluble in water, then it's really a crap-shoot as to when they'll become available to the roots. Possibly by over-watering, you broke down enough of the fertilizer for it to get absorbed all at once, instead of a gradual release over time. I used the time-release granules and the fert sticks on my first grow, and ended up running into all sorts of nutrient problems. Many of which were misdiagnosed for other ailments.

Get a strong fan inside that room to start circulating air around the plants. Keep it on full blast if you have to, just don't train it directly on the plants themselves. That'll help aide in evening out the soil moisture. Unfortunately, though, should you be looking at nutrient toxicity...there's not much that can be done besides an emergency flush. A lot of times, by the time you notice that the plants have been burned, there's really not a whole lot that can be done to save them.

Worst case scenario: learn from your mistakes, and do better next time. That's how about 99.9% of the cannabis growing community learns how to best care for their plants. I wish ya the best of luck.

[stinkyattic]

Solid nutes meaning granules or spikes, and did you dissolve them in water prior to use?

Anyway it's all moot; those plants are beyond saving.

Next time though... ventilation, correct nutes, correct soil, correct pot size.

Read the sticky in my sig. It would have saved you a lot of problems.