Crispis' Recent Growroom Mods .

Whats up everybody ,
We've been redoing quite a few things in our room since our last grow finished in hopes of bettering the use of light , control of temps. , and lovering the "God Awful" electric bill . :)

1- We got rid of 1- 630 cfm blower that was running through our cooltubes = 1260 cfm through the pair was way overkill .

2- Got rid of 1- 449 cfm blower and carbon scrubber in favor of a new space / energy saving VaporTek 4000 that "Bluebear" posted about ages ago .

3- Added a much much larger 950 gph suleaves airpump to feed the 4 DWC airstones . = 240 gph air through each stone verses 40 gph last grow . Using backflow valves for safteys sake now too . Better a lil restriction than die from electricution .

4- Changed the style of airstones in favor of the type "Deftdrummer" uses too .

5- Added 6in. of insulation , 2 layers of 4mil. plastic sheeting , and shower surround material to the ceiling . 3.5 in. of insulation , 2 layers of 4mil. sheeting , 1/2 drywall and flat white paint . Venting through the walls is trick = darkroom vents outside / soffit vents inside , w/ steel collars joining them in the wall so no moisture etc... can ever get to the insulation . Part of which was "PharmaCans" idea .

Both ballasts are ceiling mounted outside the room so less possibility of interior room heat issues .

A wall mounted therm. / rheostat that can measure interior / exterior hum. and temps w/o ever opening the door . It'll also tell you the highest / lowest recorded temps and hum. in the last 24 hrs .= badass for $11.00 .

All air passing through the cooltubes is prefiltered via. a pleated furnace filter seen in the corner above the res. - cleaning the insides of dusty cooltubes is a p.i.t.a .

The room has it's own Heat / Cent. A/C run .

Exhaust is 250 cfm inductor booster fan w/ 0 restriction because they're weak by nature to begin w/ . Intake air is passive through the lower vent sys. = 9 - 4in dia vents - I'm to baked -n- tired to figure out sq. in. of passive vent space for you . 4in. / 3.1416 x 9 maybe ???????? "Rhizome" !!!!! . LOL :stoned:

The dehum. is plumbed through the wall and into a 5 gal. bucket w/ drain fitting and hose run to a floordrain . No emptying the dehum. and also eases res. changes by pumping it out right into the 5 gal. bucket right next to the res.

Huge adaptive improvements as far as ability to run the sys. myself - After a lil bit of brainstorming w/ "Rhizome" about a fellow growers op. who is also wheelchair confined . I went to work on my own sys. I can now do just about anything but raise -n- lower the lights myself . = Less fear of the "HOOK" hauling off the loved ones too .:thumbsup:

Now to get some form of life in here !!
"Smoke Funk - Don't buy Junk - Grow It Yourself"
Peace all
Crispi :jointsmile:

been waiting for a while now to see what it looks like...looks great :thumbsup: :stoned:

You gonna start a new log with this room?:)

Omg....that's beautiful. I hope you fucking realize that room is nicer than most of my house.....cleaner.....better built.... :wtf:

Damn nice work X-C. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

:rambohead: "ITS BEAUTIFUL, MAN!!!!!!" - Cadet Captain David Shawn

/Taps

There will be a day, a time will come, and I shall set forth to construct a room which I can only hope is half that nice. Crispi - this is a thing of absolute beauty - I hope it serves well! Very nice job and congrats on the rework!!! :jointsmile: I think it is time to burn one in dedication to this masterful work! :smokin::smokin::smokin:

Props xcrispi! Looks awesome! Now get some plants in there for all of us to see!---lol

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Originally Posted by ProGroWannabe

Props xcrispi! Looks awesome! Now get some plants in there for all of us to see!---lol

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Look close at the bottom left corner of the 2nd pic. P.G.W
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . ;)

Thanx for all the kind words folks .
More pics. of the system itself once Im happy w/ it too = still making mods to it , doesnt recirculte fast enough for my liking yet . I see 3/4 in. drain lines in the very near future and possibly a res. chiller maybe .

Socialistpete - Log in the future ? I honestly doubt any sort of indepth log , maybe just spuratic pics. of things as they progress . Lifes a lil fast paced right now .

Peace all
Crispi :jointsmile:

Nice looking work, Crispi! :thumbsup:

I can't see in your photos, how did you attach the filter to your vent system? You're right about cool tubes being a pita to take down and clean.

PC :smokin:

xCrispi,

Very nice!
Very cool... :)

When we make gardening's chores easier, we have more time to play around.
Definitely a ++ to have more time.

Best Crispi and all,

-turtle420 :cool:
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Originally Posted by PharmaCan

Nice looking work, Crispi! :thumbsup:

I can't see in your photos, how did you attach the filter to your vent system? You're right about cool tubes being a pita to take down and clean.

PC :smokin:

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Sup PharmaCan ,
Click the pic containing the filter to enlarge it . Then move the arrow off the pic. and then back on it= the arrow turns into a mag/glass or crosshairs - put cross hairs on filter way over in top left corner and click = giant view .

I used 2 pieces of aluminum channel w/ badass industrial velcro type material holding them to the wall , we can slide the filter in and out and flip it too = I get 4 dif. uses out of the 1 filter - look at the dirty 6in. ring on it already just from playing w/ the system checking temps etc...

I took your advice w/ actual increased R values w/ drywall / greenboard verses the shower surround material , atleast on the inside walls - not the ceiling though .

If I can get 4 lbs. or better out of the next cycle and can afford somemore down time were gonna sheet the exterior cinderblock walls - frame them , insulate em , sheet em again , and hang drywall/greenboard on them too to help w/ temp control like you said .

I feed off all you guys , try to use the site like I used to O/G = like a big ass "Think Tank" :thumbsup:

Theres a little bit of Stinky , Weedhound , and Latewood going on inside here too if ya dig around a lil bit . Major props. to Latewood though for ingenious use of the "Pampered Chef" turkey baster for nutes - A major step towards my independence in doing the upkeep / maint. myself .
"Therapy" :thumbsup:
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by xcrispi

Look close at the bottom left corner of the 2nd pic. P.G.W
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Peace all
Crispi :jointsmile:

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Sneaky sneaky there crispy! lol I'd have never seen it had you not pointed it out. The proverbial snake in the grass for sure......at least for me.

Does the Vaportek really work that good?!?!

damn Crispi, that is one nice friggin setup dude. This buds for you.:jointsmile:

Evertking - Does the Vaportek really work that good?!?!

I hear great things about them on I/C Mag. = cvrs stink from 30-50 5 gal. dwc buckets . Bluebear got 1 and loves it . I'll let you know in 2 mos. when were flowering and theres reason to use it bro. It's cartridges are resealable too so 1 cartridge is good for 2 grows .

Thanks for the kind words Trynagethigh - Never thought my hobby would produce a room / crazy system like this man . I'll post more pics. later today - we added 3/4" in. return lines and valves so the system can recirculate at a full 120 gph . Stuffs crazy huge - looks like PlaySkool / FisherPrice down there now . LOL .
Peace all
Crispi :jointsmile:

G'day Crispi,
Very nice work on the grow room. I'm sure you will once again outdo yourself in due time with a setup like that.:thumbsup:
I was just wondering if you had a CO2 system going. If not how come? I don't mean to pry but you seem to have the money for it...:D

Whats up ppl.

1. - Back w/ some pics. of the actual system w/ the larger 3/4in. return lines - due to slow recirculation last go round I had the beginings of root rot in 1 bucket = roots plugging lines up . Also the water temps were not as low as I liked . Now the system recirculates a full 120 gph. like the pumps rated for . Full system exchange 6 times an hour now . We added some cool clamps on the larger lines to prevent any pos. floods too .

2. - A pic. of old / new plumbing parts for comparisons sake .

3. - Hydro is gonna be a winter sport here from now on . I gotta keep touch w/ my dirtself . The 6 dirt plants are in cfl limbo
at the moment.

4. - 1 of these dirt plants may end up being a keeper Cottoncandy mix mother plant . In order from left to right =

Cottoncandy - Cottoncandy - Weedhounds Ind. mix.

Nexus - The Church - Ghetto Ind. Bagseed .


Were germing a bunch of others now trying to get 4 sprouts that turn me on for use in the hydro buckets but lotsa twisted leaf Blueberry nonsense is going on w/ Dutch Passion beans. :mad: Won't do biz. w/ them again . :)


QWIDGYBO - Co2 ?? Don't need the headaches or added maint. I do just fine w/o it . :D Im burnt like you couldn't even imagine bro. and have absolutely nooooo desire to have a propane powerd gizmo up in my house , and repeated trips to get tanks filled draws far to much uneeded attn. to myself . I have a hard time smokin everthing I grow as it is . :stoned:

Im betting 4 lbs. this next grow . 4 hydro , 5 dirt , and keep the prettiest Cottoncandy as a mom for clones for next summers dirt grow . I have a filty nasty feminised seed habit I'm trying to break . :)

Peace all
Crispi :jointsmile:

Funkin beautiful crispi! Thanks for taking the time to update us.

Very nice. Gave me some ideas to refine my system. Thanks for the post.

can you move that room to my house xcrispi. i love it

Here's a cpl. pics. of everything up and running finally .
Using an old 250 hps. in the 1st. month of veg. now to help out w/ the electric bill and eliminate light stress and bleaching I used to get using a sngle 1000w. hps so early in life .

Texas Grass - quote = "move it to your house"
Good luck man . This room goes against everything Stinky warns / believes in . Only was to dismantle this quick -n- hide it or move it is w/ T.N.T bro.

Peace
Crispi :stoned:

Yeeee Haaaaaa! Lookin awesome crispi! Now if I could just keep my room that clean I'd be really doin somethin. Congrats on a great setup.

got to agree with pro nice and neat. I wish I could have that much
space for growing. Sounds like it should be cheaper to veg for a while.

X-C, that grow room is truly amazing. I love the fact that you have set up pretty much everything so that you can take care of it yourself. I bet that is a little more freedom with the ladies for you :). Everything is so nice and clean, what a dream. Good job by reducing your electricity bill a little bit, and keep up the great work!

Comatose - Smokin a while - P.G.W = :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Some new pics.
Had to turn on one of the 1000w. finally because the dirt plants were stretching for the weaker 250w. The hydro plants should have some roots in the nutes real soon and take right off .

room temps w/ 1000w - 71 deg
leaf surface temps - 75 deg
nutes are up around 300 ppm.
ph = a steady 5.8

Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

Won't take long for those hydro puppies to catch up....:thumbsup: Lookin good X-C. :)

cripsi, is there a link to how you built your hydro system? Im running a single 5 gal DWC bucket at the moment, but i want to up it to 2 buckets with a res and have it all hooked up and circulating...just curious to what all is needed.

Damn nice setup bro, I'll be following your thread. I'm a big believer in 3/4" plumbing too. It's worth every second spent upgrading.

MVP :jointsmile:

I'm finishing up on my DWC... I've been trying my best to follow all of the DWC/drip combo grows in hopes that someones skill rubs off on me :) I think that its easy to emulate great people and easy to access information when it is presented like this. Thanks again X-C, I'm subscribed.

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Originally Posted by PdoubleOTY

cripsi, is there a link to how you built your hydro system? Im running a single 5 gal DWC bucket at the moment, but i want to up it to 2 buckets with a res and have it all hooked up and circulating...just curious to what all is needed.

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Hey Pdoub. ,
There is an awful lot of info. on my set up and others in the threads below . Please read these links first , if you still have questions = I'd be happy to help . The entire reasoning , concept , abd part numbers of pump etc... are in Bluebears thread , I kinda helped Doco w/ the recirc. of his system . It's hands down the most important upgrade I've made so far . = equal ppm / ph in all cells , and reduced nute/water temps greatly for me .


http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponi...-dwc-club.html

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...wings-ons.html


More pics soon , the hydros roots just now hit the lower 1/2 of buckets and they're taking off . Doubled in size I bet over past 2 days . :D

Peace E/B
Crispi :stoned:

here's a simple do-it-yourself Water Farm, from the manufacturer's website: AquaFarm ... :smokin:

Reaper.....why do you have hydro links in your pocket young man......hmmmmm? Are thinking of RUNNING for the "darkside" as Stinky calls it? Escuse me....seduced by....not running for....:D

Hey Crispi, what I.D. vinyl tubing are you using with the 3/4" plumbing hardware?

MVP

Crispi I love you and your plants!! I'm aspiring to grow just like you. Bro check my log out its in hydro forum and theres a link in my sig:thumbsup:

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Hey Crispi, what I.D. vinyl tubing are you using with the 3/4" plumbing hardware?

MVP

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Hey MVP ,
The I.D = 3/4in. The O.D = Just a hair over 1" . It's actually more like rubber than vinyl = much more flexable . You ever need a link to parts / supplies cheap holler man . :thumbsup:

Hey SocPete ,
I saw what your up to = :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Im always creepin around the site , sometimes to tired or just too high to post though . :D I'll def. mark it , keep an eye on it , and help if I can Bro.

Peace guys ,
We might havta get my Sis. Stinky to make this a log soon .
Crispi :stoned:

I'm so damned jealous!:thumbsup:

those pics make me miss my old basement, what a great, cool place to grow :thumbsup: ... you've done a beautiful job with yours, Xcrispi :thumbsup:

crispi, got any pics of the recirc buckets in action? Am I right that you recirc into the DWC buckets a bit above the water line to get a waterfall effect? I am going to grow some trees this time and have a parts list about half completed but wanna know how you designed your system to recirculate.

Thanks,

MVP :jointsmile:

P.S.
HOLLA! I do need a link to parts / supplies cheap

Hey Brother,Thanks for the info and the pics.You have really inspired me to go ahead to do this after the first of the year.Im going to start getting my stuff together in a few weeks and hopefully in Jan Ill be up and running.Great job,great setup,congrats.Take care,be well,and most of all be safe.:thumbsup:

PdoubleOTY - MVP

Here's a cpl. pics. of the mechanics of my system, and of the system recirculating .

The res. is 20 gallons , It's aireated w/ a dual outlet aquarium pump and 2- 6in. airstones . And it's always recirculating unless were checking PH / PPM .

There's about 12 - 13 gal. in the room , and 7-8 in the res.

The larger waterlines = water returning into the system from the res. via. gravity.

The smaller waterline = water from system being pumped back into the res. using a "Via Aqua 302" adjustable pump rated at 120. G.P.H .

Once a day you shut the 2 valves outside the room next to the res. in the black catch pan - the pump will take all the contents of the system and return it all into the res. for PH / PPM check and adjustments . Once the numbers are to my liking - just open the 2 valves and the system refills itself .

MVP - I've only dealt w/ a cpl. stores out your way . I really like the ppl. at "Texas Hydroponics" - they'll match any prices you can link them to , and the cheapest place I've seen most things is Plantlightinghydroponics.com . Wish you were closer to the East coast , The guy from "Liquid Sun" is way way cool :thumbsup: .

Peace guys
Crispi :stoned:

Here's a cpl. more current pics.
I managed to burn the piss outa the dirt plants and had to flush them real good yesterday and see how they recover . The hydro plants have some roots in the nutes now and are coming right along .

Reaper - here's a pic. of the algee you sounded concerned about w/ hydro .
I don't let it bother me . Once the plants are huge all the light is blocked and the algee dies . I used to use H2O2 to kill it but can't anymore as I'm using hydrogaurd now .

Weedhound - The righthand plant is W/H mix , The left is the Ghetto Ind. and both are seem to be unbothered by the nute buildup . Exactly what I need = strains that put up w/ my abuse :D

Later folks
Crispi :stoned: