xcrisp- thanks for the info yet again... those girlies are lookin danky dank @_@.. btw i have grown before back in high school, we had 3 clones blueberry, a10, and bubble gum we had them bushed out and we went on a senior trip to mexico told my homies dad to watch the babies. we came home a week later to see our babies all stressed leaves falling off and there was just no hope for em. lookin to make up for that miscue.