need help & information asap

hi everyone, i am a new member in this community and a first time grower.....i have a few questions to make....here goes.....two weeks ago i planted 9 seeds of feminised 100% twilight bought from dutch passion.....i have them from the beggining into 10 lt (a little more than 2 gallons) round buckets which i sterilised using bleach....i use two different kinds of soil bought from a specialized store...the soil is enriched with Nitrogen , organic material, is sterilized and of ph between 6,5-7....my growing room is around: L=10 ft W=3ft H=12ft.....it has a small window which i have open for ventilation and fresh air and have covered it in such way that the minimal amount of light is seen (almost no light is seen).....i use a 400 watt hps....i haven't used yet any fertilisers as i red in a thread over here not to do so if the first two leaves do not get yellow (sign of N deficiency)....the fertilisers i have are the following....for veg i have one with NPK:70-30-60 and particles of Boron,Zinc,Fe,Mg,Mo,Cu......for blooming i have one with NPK:0-13-14.....

My questions are:

Right now i have them under 18/6....finished second week of veg and plants show height of 10cm...when should i change into 12/12?

What kind of characteristics should i expect from the Twilight plant being a 100% Indica?

What kind of yield should i expect given all the details i described above?

Has anyone in the past ever cultivated this type of plant?Any experiences?

What can i do for odour control?My budget is somehow very limited.Is it a very smelly plant?

Hopefully i will put some pictures of my babies later on......thanx for reading this thread and thanx in advance for any replies i may have......

PS....for air circulation i use 4 computer fans and for CO2 enrichment i will make this famous setup with water,sugar and yeast....

PEACE ALL

If you have 9 you should flower when they are about 9 inches tall. They will quickly out grow one 400 HPS

thanx for the tip IthoughtIknewitall but seems a little bit strange, as 9 inches seem too little...it's less than a foot tall if i am not mistaken....less than 30cm....if i flower them at 9 inches (around 24 cm) as you suggest, around what height would i expect them to finish and what yield should i expect to gain? with my calculations i suppose they will be there (at 9 inch) in about 2 weeks....that will be exactly 4 weeks from seeds......thanx for the suggestion.....furthermore i would like to add that outside is snowing right now and i have closed/sealed the window as it is below zero....would not want them to freeze to death......cheers

they will double to tripple in size, can you raise the light up to the top of the room? if you can wait untill they are 4 feet to flower, if not, just devide the maximum heigt by 3 (its an indica, will not strech as much, but 3 to be safe. you will need to fit all plants in a 15 foot area and have the lamp in the middle to get a reasonable watts/foot (26) this is still low, but will work.
as far as how it will look, it is indica dom, so it will have broad dark green leafs. Tite internode structure and dense buds. Little strech in flowering and short over all stature. Will probably be branchy. check the breeder est. yield for that stat for I have never grown this strain

thanx for the info llamaman666......the breeder states that the Twilight gives an abundant yield...but does not state/give any numbers....what does this mean in numbers....anyways out of nine (hopefully) females....ok let's say seven to be more realistic as i do not expect all nine to be females....around what yield should i expect from seven females if everything goes well? would aroung 2 pounds total be realistic or is it a dream?
i can't wait that long to flower them, until they are 4 foot high.....i have the space in height but if i do so , a)it will take much longer to smoke it & b) they will fill all available space in width and i will not be able to move around them at all......
i think i will try to floer them when they reach around two feet in height...after all seems more efficient for tha wattage i have in my disposal......what do you suggest?

I also think to try and give in half of them a solution of mineral water in which i will dissolve contraception pills....i heard that it works great even though i've read over here in some thread that it is bullshit....i've got these two pills used for birth control called ''the after-pill'' or ''the pill of the following morning''.....it is a contraceptive pill that contains the hormone Levonorgestrel which is supposed to be used by women who do not want to be pregnant and do not make use of contraceptives....it has to be very strong hormone....i hope this will boost my plants in vegetative growth.....i have read it somewhere that a grower has reported that his plants treated with birth control pills grew around 200% faster than those not treated with such treatment.....i will cross my fingers........
Hope that did not get you people tired reading all this and waiting for any replies...thank you!

Hello,

Here is a link to a few grow reports on this strain.

Twilight Reports

There are some beautiful photos of the purple pheno in the reports.

Peace

hi newgroweroldsmoker,dont be using the hormone's it's bullshit an you don't wanna be growing a set of tit's now do you!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :D

thanx for the info all of you guys.....spliffbuilder you're absolutely right man....i certainly do not want to grow tits by smoking my spliffs.....in the meantime ti did some research and i discovered that THERE are hormones that promote rapid vegetative growth but these are vegetable/plant hormones and are extracted from plants....i.e the substance called ethylene acts as a growth hormone.....i also found out a producer or this substance in china with no representative at all over here in italy....bad luck....i guess i will stick to the old fashioned and traditional way of growing and treating my ladies....finally i sent an e-mail to Dutch Passion seedbank asking the same questions i set over here to you guys and i am waiting for their reply.....in a couple of days hopefully i will post fotos of my babies and hopefully Dutch Passions' reply to my questions.....cheers all!!!!!!

i would like again your opinion on this......it is bloody snowing outside....it is getting even worse day by day....is the third day that i have the window closed....no fresh air coming in .....i just go in the growing room 4-5 times a day in order to change the air a bit....i talk to them and approaching from the top i directly breath on their leaves....it's the third week now from seed and the second week on 18/6...if i change back to 24/0 will that stress the ladies? i get a little bit worried about the temperature drop in the room as it has lots of height till the ceiling and the heat from the hps lamp is not a problem as initially thought would be.....also i read in the Dutch Passion homepage that a lower temperature gives more females but my seeds are feminised anyway.....anyone reply....need advice.....third week and have not used any fertiliser yet...just mineral bottled water....and lots of love.....

hello again guys.....dutch passion have already answered to my e-mail showing once again how good business they have/are....anyways....i would like to add some info that i got for the water i am using....let's say a small analysis of it....pH=7.68, CO2=9.6mg/lt ,
O2=7.1mg/lt , Na=6.8mg/lt , K=1.1mg/lt , Mg=30mg/lt , Ca=46mg/lt, N=6.8mg/lt, Cl=2.8mg/lt, S=4.9mg/lt, SiO2=17mg/lt......
Given these details will i ever face any nuts defficiencies? i am in week 3 veg.....no signs of any problems...have lowered the lights a little bit more to around 40-50 cm from tips of plants and have not used any ferts yet....just the water i describe above...any comments?
thanx!

PS ......i tried to take pictures with my mobile phone camera but they suck due to extensive light of tha bulb....hopefully when the plants grow a little bit more i will post them...peace

wrap some mylar around the lens of your mobile and try it then

take a picture during the dark period, donot switch back to 24/0 and try to get the pH down a little.

when i start feeding them the ph will be reduced i suppose from the nuts in the water....i am going to do so in a few days time as i can see the first two leaves getting a little bit yellowish....in that way i believe that pH will be around 7 almost neutral.....so far as i can see they have started to grow the third set of real leaves and they seem to grow faster than before....i watered them after almost 3 days and right now my lights have come up again...time to check them out...

another question for you guys.....i have started monitoring the temperature of the room as well....during the light period it is stable at 22 degrees celcius and during the dark period it drops at 18 degrees....is that ok? So far so good, all looking good and growing fast....i am now at day 19 from seed.....unfortunately am not able to post any pictures yet....

if i take the pics during the dark period won't that be disturbing for my plants? or this rule applies only during flowering time?

pretty much just for flowering time... but you shouldn't make a habit of it

: )

day 20 from seed....all looking good except from one....yes....unfortunately one plant seems to be sick....at the tips of the first set of leaves, not the round ones, i can see brown colour....what is this? already i have fed all of them 2 days ago for the first time with nuts less than half strength...anyway next watering is scheduled for sunday....i think is best to drain the buckets a bit....i have already started enriching the air with CO2....i found a guide of how to grow maryjane from NIRVANA at: http://www.cannabis-seeds.cc/guides/...wing_Guide.pdf which describes a very cheap and efficient way to provide CO2 at the plants.....the one with urine and sugar......anyways....what's with the brown colouration on the tips? is it nuts burn? why it has appeared only in one of the nine? (thank god).....

i have read around on how to solve the problem with the brown colour of the tips of the sick plant as i cannot send the photos to my e-mail to post them here....i noticed that the infected leaves where getting dry/crispy as well....i think the problem occured because of my impatience and my love for them....i fertilized them a week earlier and one ,and maybe now second , got sick due to too much nitrogen, even though the nuts where given at a low percentage....anyway i got the bucket in the bathtab and i flushed it with 20 lt (two times the size of the bucket) of warm water....now i have placed the plant right underneath the bulb....the temperature now is around 30 celcius / 86 farenheit....i have a large computer fan blowing fron the surface of the buckets straight towards the bulb and the reflector....as for the rest of the garden....it is looking good with 5/9 (in total number) having wide leaves already.....i think i will begin flowering in 25 days from now....total 57 days from seed....is that a good amount of time for vegetation?

thats a good time for veg, I would go by hite, not time though

what do you mean by height? how tall should it be? i plan to harvest on the 17th of april....i believe that if everything goes as planned that on day 57 the shortest plant will be at least 40 cm tall...that's 1.30 ft tall....good enough? i noticed something else that i forgot to report....the plants that grow in the soil that is special for flowering plants show unbelievable growth while the ones in the cow manure mixture are pretty much smaller...i have to change the soil in them....hopefully in my second grow i will try to do that thing called sea of green in an attempt to gain in time and yield!

here's the first picture...the plant that got burnt from the soil and now recovering...grew considerably faster since the flush and under the light...i know that the quality of the image sucks, but that's all i can do unfortunately.....the burnt leaves are the bottom ones aka the first set of leaves and they shine because of the light.....hopefully i will post some more pics soon

and some more......these are my healthy ones....the ones that show the top development...