1st Outdoor grow -- Need Help

Hi there

I need help in the worst way. I got a late start planting (beginning of June) but here in Midwest, the weather wasn't the most cooperative in May. I have no real idea what I should do next or how I'm doing so far. I have seen many people point newbies towards the grow FAQ, but try as I might, I can't find the grow FAQ on this site. No, I'm not mildly retarded either;)

I'd have pictures, but my little one "misplaced" my digital camera and I have yet to recover it. When I do, I'll have pictures so you can all see how bad off I am.

I have two babies coming up. One is doing good (I think) standing roughly a foot and a half tall. The other one I'm worried about as its only about 7-8 inches tall. They were both planted the same time straight from the seed in the ground. It is bag seed since I don't have the means of getting good seeds around here. I should have got them started prior to planting but naive as I am, I didn't think of it until such a late date.

My problem... I have just been watering them thus far and have no idea when and if I should use any product on them. They are watered everyday to every other day depending on the weather and how dry the soil is, but that's it. Just straight water from the hose. I've tried looking around for some sort of grow chart or what have you to compare my growth with others at this time frame (5-6 weeks old now), but I haven't seen any close enough that also my have planted late as I have and that deal with Midwest heat and humidity. Of course, I'm not even sure that is even a factor. Until I get pictures up, I would describe the main one as looking healthy with about 10 nodes. (Not 100% sure of my terminology, but I consider a node a pair of branches off the main stalk. There's 10 sets of those.) The smaller one looks like the runt in comparison, but otherwise about the same with less nodes. (5-6)

My questions:

1. How far along should they be at the 6 week mark?
2. When should I start to use product on them?
3. Any suggestions as to what if anything I would use on them at this stage and following stages?
4. Other than starting earlier, is there anything else I could have done early on to better my chances at a decent crop so I'll know for next time?

By the by, I should mention these are in my backyard. Not too many nosy neighbors, but there is some close enough to keep me spooked a bit on occasion. I'm not growing for selling by any means, just to alleviate the cost of buying regularly. Around here, an ounce of schwag is about $100-$120 so I was hoping to get at least an ounce or two from these.

I appreciate any help or advice you guys can give and I'll get some sort of picture up tomorrow, even if it comes from my phone camera. Sorry this is so long.

good but check soil ph n add some organic bonemeal n liquid organic sea weed

dont worry about ur neibors they probably dont know what it is anyway

These are mine at 5 weeks.

fert with a high Nitrogen fert in veg..when they start flowering give them a high Phospherous fert with low N. If using chemical ferts start with low strength so you dont burn them

I only gave mine ferts twice at 1/3rd strength(or less) but they also have some composted manure mixed in.

Happy growing!:rastasmoke:

hey green r u growing hemp ur plants look (in that pic) as though their r planted way too close together now i dont the proper spacing for ganja herb but after years of expeariments ive found that 1 uncut naturally growing ganja herb plant should have at least 4 to 5 feet per plant spacing is good for 7" tall female plant

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hey green r u growing hemp ur plants look (in that pic) as though their r planted way too close together now i dont the proper spacing for ganja herb but after years of expeariments ive found that 1 uncut naturally growing ganja herb plant should have at least 4 to 5 feet per plant spacing is good for 7" tall female plant

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No they are not hemp lol those are golden skunk, thai rain, early misty and masterkush. Some of mine are spaced out in their own holes and some (like that pic) are in patches like that. They have enough room to grow but I agree that generally the ones with their own seperate holes spaced out will yeild more PER PLANT. You can plant even closer like in sea of green type gardens and often the yeild PER SQUARE METER will be higher than growing monsters instead of more small ones. Also keep in mind assuming there are males there will then be more room for the females. :rastasmoke:

It was a last minute endevour and my first time growing in years so I didnt have time to give every plant their own hole and put some in patches. I was going to tie them down but I think I will let them be at this point.

Cant wait till they start flowering soon :rastabanna:

cool i never tied anything back yet but...

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Originally Posted by BlackBerry

cool i never tied anything back yet but...

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Same here havent tried it yet but its supposed to work awesome and its really stealth as they stay low. Higher yields too. I think its getting too late now though as veg period allmost done.

Peace:rastasmoke:

Thanks to the both of you for the insight. I snapped some pictures with my phone camera. The first plant is the better growing one. I measured it tonight and it is about 17 inches. And it looks as though mine are quite a bit smaller at 5 weeks than they should be. This weekend, I'll get out to get a ph test kit and the ferts you guys mentioned. Hopefully that will perk them up a bit. I'm also going to be taking a few more steps to make sure they neighbors won't take notice of them. The first 3 pics are of the bigger (and thus far, better) plant. In the third picture, it looks as though insects have gotten to some of the leaves. Hopefully that is nothing to worry about.

The last two pics are of the runt. I'm a little more worried about that one. It is only about 7 inches so far. If you guys (or anyone else for that matter) happen to check back in this one, any feedback on how they look would help.

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Thanks to the both of you for the insight. I snapped some pictures with my phone camera. The first plant is the better growing one. I measured it tonight and it is about 17 inches. And it looks as though mine are quite a bit smaller at 5 weeks than they should be. This weekend, I'll get out to get a ph test kit and the ferts you guys mentioned. Hopefully that will perk them up a bit. I'm also going to be taking a few more steps to make sure they neighbors won't take notice of them. The first 3 pics are of the bigger (and thus far, better) plant. In the third picture, it looks as though insects have gotten to some of the leaves. Hopefully that is nothing to worry about.

The last two pics are of the runt. I'm a little more worried about that one. It is only about 7 inches so far. If you guys (or anyone else for that matter) happen to check back in this one, any feedback on how they look would help.

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Hey mingles. They are a little small for 5 weeks but look healthy so thats good. Probably just less light so they grow slower. As long as they dont stretch its all good just lower yeild.

As far as being stealth if it was earlier I would say top the crap out of them and/or tie them down..or a greenhouse. Seeing as they will be flowering soon I wouldnt reccomend topping. One thing you ca do is find fake flowers similar to tomato flowers ect and pin them on the plant. Makes it look like something different than mj at a glance.

As far as ferts organic is allways nice. If you use chem ferts just be careful and dont overfeed...less is more as the saying goes

If the insects become a problem get a insecticide that is safe for tomotoes. Pepper sprays and shit made from daisies ect work.

Goodluck and Happy growing!:thumbsup:.

ur second plant might be male

it has male tendincies it looks keep an eye on it

Ok, I just added two things. I added one cup of Schultz brand Blood meal as per recommended on the box which is 12-0-0. I think I had read that at this stage, nitrogen is most important.

I also fed it 17-19-29 Schultz Tomato Food at a one tsp per gallon of water, as recommended on the box. I used just one gallon between my two plants.

I was unable to test my ph, as the kit I bought only had French directions and involved mixing a bunch of chemicals. I'm going to go back tomorrow and exchange it for a simpler one that actually has a color chart and English instructions.

Oui, Oui.

Any thoughts?

Well, I just lost my smallest (the possible male) to animals of some sort. My bigger one seems to be going ok. I don't know how I didn't know this after after living in our house for 7 years, but the only viable placed i had to plant them is only receiving about 4 hours of direct sun a day and its the middle of summer. How screwed am I going to be coming September?

Also, are the nutes I previously mentioned worth a damn?

Hi there.

These are some updated pics of my plant. I had two, but the smaller one was dug up by some sort of animal. Luckily that one was showing male tendencies anyway so I'm ok with it. I've started using some nutes with what appears to be great results. Obviously, correct me if I'm wrong. I planted this 1st week of June and its roughly 3 ft. tall. It was starting to get a little top heavy and was bending, but it has since been propped back up.

As far as I can see (being new to this) my biggest roadblock is my lack of sunlight. It's only getting about 4-5 hours daily which I know is dismally low. Since I'm coming up on the two month mark for growing, I'd like some thoughts as to what to be looking for to move into the next stage and more importantly, some constructive criticism on how my baby looks.

Thanks again.

good add organic seaweed n check soil ph

how it look now?

We need an update these plants are flowering