still new to the scene. but starting with four plants. Using one four foot fluorescent light and four 26watt cfl. will this be enough for there whole life?
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still new to the scene. but starting with four plants. Using one four foot fluorescent light and four 26watt cfl. will this be enough for there whole life?
no pic but if this helps
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i think it will be enough. just want a little support.
it didnt come out right!!!!!!!!!!!:wtf:
I drew a simple diagram of what I think you meant. The long flouro right above every plant with the compact flouros between the 1st & 2nd and the 3rd & 4th plants, on both sides of the long flouro. Is this right?
EDIT: On a side note if anyone knows, how would I get my attachment to show up as a thumbnail? It's a bmp file, would it have to be a gif or jpg? Thanks for anyhelp, I'll try looking around the forum to see this has already been asked/answered.
:thumbsup: yeah buddy thats it. any thoughts that if it will be enough light till thier harvest
thanx for the image AR15. i b imagination impaired when it comes to pictures
I'd say you're gonna want more if you can. It would probably be ok for veg stage, but (assuming your sticking with flouros & cfls the whole way through) you're gonna want more for flowering stage. Maybe two of the 4 ft'ers across the top and one cfl for each plant. It would double what you have there, but you'll probably get better growth and a better harvest in the end.
And this is just my speculation, I'm learning at this point and not very knowledgeable so I would say get the opinion of a well experienced grower around here. I'll try to look around and see what would be good for your set up so hang in there. And definately take the advice of experienced growers over mine.
Oh, and the picture. Trust me, get to know ms paint a little (it's not hard at all) and it will be your best friend when trying to draw simple diagrams. :D
edit: oh, before I forget, if you didn't know already, try and use mylar around your walls or paint them flat white, it might also help to build a reflector around the lights.
Yeah it seems like 2x 4' flouros and 4x cfls are gonna be ok for you. So I would say pick up some more. Make sure you put the plants close to the lights also. It would also probably be easy to add some more lights like the ones you're using, down the line if you want.
The more and the better lights you have, generally the better output you're gonna get. Anyways, good luck :thumbsup:
You should also try just reading through random threads here and follow some grow logs. It would help to learn somethings, that's what I'm doing.
Sorry, what I meant was two cfls for each plant, one on each side of the 4' tubes.Quote:
Originally Posted by AR15
Same thing for the post above where I said:I meant 8x cfls (4 on each side making it 2 for each plant). Sorry about that, I hope I didn't confuse you :confused:Quote:
Yeah it seems like 2x 4' flouros and 4x cfls are gonna be ok for you.
ok, so 8 26watt lights is about 208watts...add the flourescent tubes at about 20watts a bulb x4 is 80watts...u could get a 250watt hps that would work much better than all those cfl's and flourescents and use about the same wattage...i use cfl's for the first two weeks of growth and i use 6-43watt cfl's during those two weeks...then i use a 400w hps with a metal halide conversion bulb...the growth is amazing...cfl's are cool but u gotta go for the hps for flowering and mh for vegging if you're gonna use that many cfl's...in my humble opinion...htgsupply.com sells the whole light system for under a 100$...close to the price of all the flouros and cfl's
lol.. i understand just double everything! good thing i have a large closet... but thanx for the input..
From what everyone has said, HPS is worth the extra cash for the improved yield. I mean, if you get even an ounce more because of the HPS, it'll more than pay for itself, even if you sell that extra ounce to your friends at a deep discount from street prices. Your flowering light is the one thing you definitely don't want to skimp on, and you really should use HPS.
What you have is probably fine until you're ready to flower though. If you can, try and use a bluish tube in the 4' fixture, like GE Daylight, which has a 6500K spectrum. That'll keep the plants from stretching too much. Most but not all CFLs have a very yellowish light with a spectrum of around 3000K. Do you know what yours is?
an hps huh... lookin into it
Yeah, you can get a 100-watt HPS at a hardware store, or get a 250-400 watt light somewhere like High Tech Garden Supply for about $130 after shipping.
A 250 would give you less problems with heat, but a 400 would give you a lot more bud, if you have the room for it. Good luck!
yeah there right cfls are perfect for vegging but for decent buds that will make you smile you need a HPS. Ive grown with cfls and tubes for flowering and the budz were excellent but small. I have 2 extra 150's that are new and they worked perfect for 12 plants in a 3x3x6 closet. If you want i can get ride of them both for under a bill !! come with bulbs, glass inserts and cords..complete lighting set. I should post them for sell..anyway good luck bro...peace from new mexico
thanx for all the comment.. im slow on the response post's sometimes. but again thanx for the help.. what about moth. how do i get rid of them?