When would one spray the giberallic acid on the branches to shock a female branch male, obviously it would be after one can tell that it is for sure female, but is it right after it is sexed or do you wait a little bit?
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When would one spray the giberallic acid on the branches to shock a female branch male, obviously it would be after one can tell that it is for sure female, but is it right after it is sexed or do you wait a little bit?
Exodus,
That isn't a method that the home grower should bother messing with.
If you treat a plant with GA, you can't smoke ANY part of it. Or make hash... or cook... you have to throw it away.
Your average hobby grower should stick to other methods of forcing hermaphrodite parts. Reliable ones include messing with the photoperiod, heat stressing yoru plants, and letting them over-ripen by a couple weeks.
If you know what you are doing and don't intend to use a GA-reversed plant for anything other than a source of pollen, you will see for sure when it grows male parts and it will look like any other hermaphrodite.
Seriously though, stressing with photoperiod is safest... put a cou0ple layers of paper bag over a branch and take it off sometimes... shine a bright flashlight up in there during the dark time once in a while... take it off and put it back on again whenever you think of it during the light time... just really mess with it.
It was a friend of mine who wanted to guarantee femnized seeds, for future outdoor use. His plant didn't end up turning out how he'd like so he may consider doing it. I didn't realize it would ruin a whole plant, I will make sure to let him know.
Would stressing a clone for pollen be a better way to keep from ruining a whole plant, and guarantee femenized seeds? thank you so much for your help, and jah bless.
Yes, absolutely. You can then collect the pollen and mix it with flour, and keep it cold and very dry for future use. Just a little will give you all the seeds you can ever want!Quote:
Originally Posted by Exodus_herbman
Great tip stinkyattic thank you - added to my own internal weed chalkboard of great ideas. Such a simple desiccant :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
wow. I'd like to have an arguement please.
I hope everyone will discuss this some more.
Back to the original post. So how exactly do you apply the g. a. to work its majik on the plant ? spray on a particular branch , or mix in with the watering schedule. thanks:thumbsup:
bullshit, Gibberlic Acid is VERY TOXIC ... my mind is made up, don't confuse me with the Facts ... do NOT use Gibberlic Acid ... you have to remember there are very impressionable minds here, and some people just cannot follow directions, and will poison themselves ... seriously ... :smokin:
(I can pull up reams of 'scientific evidence' that marijuana will make you insane, and put you on a murderous rampage ... does that make it correct?) ... if I seem harsh, it's because I would prefer to err on the side of safe practices ... :smokin:
Seems like the best policy to me. That is if you value your life and the lives of those around you. But I'm not qualified to get in on this debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
Instead of using GA it is much more simple to fuck with the lights shocking the plant. Go in a couple times a week and briefly turn on the lights in the dark cycle. I acheived female seeds this way and none of the seed stock I produced had any type of hermie characteristics at all.
what does shocking a plant have to with female seeds?
Shock=stress=herms=pollen with no Y chromosome=no possibility of an XY male only XX females.
Please read up.
You've been bumping a lot of old posts with one-sentence responses... what's up?
so if i pollinate my females with the pollen of a female hermi the seeds will be female?
wont the plants turn hermi?
peace
From what I understand, it depends on enviromental conditions, (stuff you control) and the strains susceptability to going hermie in the first place. (stuff you can't control)
I ain't no expert here but it seems to me GA or most other chemical methods is doing just that...stress. And I don't see how putting a bag over one branch would be choosing a plant prone to stress. No way. You don't know that. Using that method, you usually choose the most healthy plant. But anyway, to answer the quote. No. You are looking for a plant to fertilize itself to get the feminized seeds. And yes, you are more apt than normal to produce a hermied plant from seeds produced from a hermied plant.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoke_and_fly
I have previously used GA for foliar feeding the plant with hormones, thus inducing the hermaphrodism, and it makes the plant really stretch. I have smoked the plant afterwards, with no apparent after effects or aftertaste that I could detect. (plant was well-flushed, tho)
I truly do not believe there would be enough GA in the plant to affect normal smokers, especially at the dilutions recommended, and do still use it to 'pop' stubborn seds.
BUT
If I had hep-c (as I do) or if my wife had t-cell lymphoma (as my wife does) I would be caereful to note that this has not been proven to be safe, and would recommend reading this msds sheet, especially Section 5 - Fire fighting measures, as inhilation of the burned hormone is what is at issue here. https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/10405.htm.
I have previously scoured the internet looking for the horror stories of blindness, peoples hair falling out, or dicks falling off from smoking the stuff, and I found none.
I am not a botanist, nor a chemist, but personally...I think there is no way that GA is as bad as...sitting on the freeway during rush hour, smoking speed, or using those electric "scented candles".
Does here anyone have links to proof substantiating either side of the issue? Would sure be helpful, lol.
Thanks Rusty. Weed can make people paranoid by itself without the chance of poisoning yourself. But like you said, proof is needed before anyone goes for it. But I have an idea. If anyone can tell me why it wouldn't work or maybe what to do different so it would, cool.
What if when you have a real good female (I'm doing some WW next, I hope so) when the plant finishes you cut off all the buds off except one. And instead of switching the lights back to reveg just let that left on bud hermi. And get your fem seeds from there. The only real draw-back, I see, is that the pollen produced is really prolific. You'd have to really wash down the cab, like with bleach, after harvesting, before your next grow, otherwise the next plants would get fertilized. Might this work? If not are there any changes to that idea that might make it work?
P.S. Anyone notice? 441 views. Lot of interest in this.
Hi. I have not used any method before so my opinion may be flawed.
From an outside perspective, not knowing whats in GA etc....
The safest way would appear to be Over Ripen. I think this because there is no chemicals used and if the offspring were to carry the trait it would be harmless to your crop. Because the flowers would come only after the time you usually crop them (so no harm done).
I think Heat Stress would be the worst possible way to force them.