Cabinet, 1000W Hydro-DWC SCRoG White Widow

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Originally Posted by BlazeIdo

Turtle, how are you running your AC in your cab? Is it mounted into it? Do window air conditioners need to be mounted intbetween to areas (for instance the outside and the room its cooling) to work, or can they just run and cool air sitting in a room. Ive been brainstorming AC's for cabs and I was thinking if the cab was big enough, one of those window AC's could just be installed into the bottom back corner? Would this negatively affect the air for the plants? and would this be considered a good air intake? Peace

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Hey bIdo...
I still haven't installed the a/c unit into my cab... but my setup is going to be different...

I ain't installing the a/c unit "in" the cabinet... I'm leaving it right where it is... in the wall, under the windows. But I'm going to build a box around it... and use fart fans to move air between the a/c box and the cabinet... connect everything with dryer ducts.

As to how to run an a/c in a grow operation... you could turn ON the a/c to cool the entire room, then just have your cab's air intake in to room.

But I would do it: Have the a/c cooling only the cabinet. Closed air circuit... that way, your a/c unit doesn't have too cool *everything* in the room. Which will include loses due to "heat", sunlight, walls, your ballasts... the air coming out of the cool tube (pretty warm)... your computer... your blunts.... etc.

You can do it any which way you like... I'm gonna do the closed-circuit thing I mentioned.

As to the a/c unit at the back of the cab... well, um, yeah... I guess it works. Just, give it more thought... if the looks like it, build it. :D

That's the best way, really...

Peace to you bIdo...

-turtle420 :cool:
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Hello guys...

Just posting some pictures...

I think this is the start of the 5th week of vegetative... I'm not sure... I can check the time exactly later on...

I plan on vegging a little bit more... maybe 1-2 more weeks. There are a couple of "bald spots" in the screen... and if I remember correctly, justAseed had like, hundreds of buds in his SCRoG. So that's what we're shooting for. :)

Anyways, hope you enjoy. All input welcomed!

Second set of pics...

Wow wow WOW!!! guys!

Take it easy with the posts!
You're overrunning this thread!
JESUS!
Easy! Not so many posts! Damn it...

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Ok, UPDATE:
I installed the a/c... :D

Do you see this smiley? :D
Yes? :D

That's me... :D Just like that :D

If you where to meet me right now, you'd basically see this:::
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The temperatures are ROCKING!
They're over at 76-77 F.

The rez is more or less around there... which is a BIG improvement from the previous 88F readings.

Summer is comming.... and I saw 96.8 degrees in my grow room the other day (yesterday?)... WOW! Too hot for me.

Now with the a/c...
The plants LOVE it!

I swear, I opened up the grow room, and here's what I saw:
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All of them smiling... all of them. They where sooo happy!

I'm 12/12ing tomorrow. The screen, I think, has gotten a little itsy-bit overgrow. I thank you all for the input regarding the last pictures... and as many of you commented, it's time to 12/12.

I have to work tomorrow with::: Light leaks.
Nothing big... just, two or three slits of light here and there...

Nothing... hope you all like.

And please... please! don't post so much here guys...

Best to all,

-turtle420 :cool:
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Dude the girls look amazing. How have I not been following this thread. Anyways I plan on doing what you are doing, as far as mothers and scrog go, this fall and have a few questions about some specifics. If you got some time i would love to pick your brain lol. Good work and keep the pics coming bro.....

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Originally Posted by Jdzzl03

If you got some time i would love to pick your brain lol.

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Dude, that's what this great community is all about... :)

Ask away man.... ask away...
In all I can help you, I will... :)

GLAD YOU LIKE IT! :D

Since you asked:
I was thinking of putting my mums in soil, just because hydro requires a bit more space(Rez tank and all) at least the way I have been setting up my systems. What is the best way to keep the moms small. I am planning on taking clones every two months. The way i figure 2 weeks to root, the another two weeks to veg, then two months till completely flowered. I plan on cloning every two months, ie... once the first cycle of veg is complete, flower the first batch and take clones for the second batch so they need to get put into flower right as the first batch is done. My grow is stictly for my own benefit, not commercial. The only thing I am worried about is keeping the moms ina "bonsai" state. I am worried that during the first cycle they could outgrow my cab. What do you reccomend? Also do you have any tips as far as scrogging goes? I plan on using the three healthiest clones to fill my cab and then after the two weeks in veg go to flower. Do you think scrog is the best set up or maybe even sog. Sorry if I am rambling, a little sat. night blunt to say the least but I am open to any ideas/tips/suggestions you may have about my fall grow. Being a new grower I am trying to learn everything I can in order to maximize my efforts. thanks for all the help man your post are always informative. Much love- Diz:rasta:

Looks really good. Looking forward to this one!

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Originally Posted by Jdzzl03

Since you asked:

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I would definitely have the moms in soil.

The best way to keep moms small.... I don't have that much experience to tell you... I know justAseed topped them quite a lot... and a small pot will help...

But man, my mom is in a 8" tall pot, and she shared that pot with another plant... .even though that's her situation, she's still relatively big. But that's good... because there are shitloads of secondary growths prime for cloning.
To keep her height down, I just LSTed her. I tied her... and re-tied her... and re-tied her. Over and over and over again. She runs both clockwise, and counter-clockwise over the pot... she crosses herself various times.
Her height is relatively small... but she's one big momma.

As to vegging for 2 weeks::: You've got to see what you want to do.

Right now, I'm almost at 60 days of vegetative for my SCRoG.
Why?
Well, the plants simply... well... they don't grow in 5 minutes.
For SCRoG, you should flower (so I hear) when the screen is about 70-80% full. And that "fullness", has taken me almost 2 months. If I would have flowered after two weeks... I don't think I would have gotten "much".

But it depends... because that's talking about SCRoG... if you want SoG... yeah... I think you can veg for 2-3 weeks. Shit... I know there's people that veg clones for 1 week, then 12/12 them.

In fact, I've read of people that veg them for NO time... They just root their clones, and off they go 12/12.

The 2 weeks for rooting sounds about right. From my cloning experience, it's more or less like that. First 7 days, you have root bumps, and small tiny "roots"... by the 14th day, now you've got nice roots.

As to TIMING your second grow's clones, to be put just as you take down the 1st ones... well, of course it can be done. But I don't know your experience level. From my "newb level", I know I'd fuck it up somewhere. Somewhere, I'll fuck up the timing... the cycles... the something.
Of course it can be done... shoot for it!

Right now, I'm just happy that everything is going good so far.

As for the "bonsai moms"... The best I've ever seen, has been JustAseed's moms... they where... like... perfect for such small setups. Short... bushy... healthy... He had tiny ass pots for them... I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was something like 3-4" diameter pots. small... and shitloads of topping/FIMing.

I was doing some bonsai moms... to replace the one I described above... but man, I fucked up somewhere... not sure where... but I fucked up. They died... or they're in the process of dying... sooo... we'll try, try, try again. ;)

I suggest/recommend you LST your original seed mom... that'll keep her down. Trust me, she won't outgrow your cab if you don't let her.

Tips regarding SCRoGing:::
Yeah...

Just go for it!!!

It's really fun man... really fun. Just go for it. I use a 1"-squares netting. Or poultry wire/mesh... or whatever name it has. that metal wire thing that resembles a mesh... that... well, justAseed suggested 1" squares.

He said he tried bigger, but it wasn't as "abilitating" to train the girls. And I think he tried smaller than 1", but it kind-choked them. So I guess 1" is perfect.

SCRoG vs SoG
I don't think neither is a 'better' one.

They're just... different.
SCRoG is definitely for small areas... because training and keeping trainned a BIG area SCRoG will be... ufff... a nightmare man. I've got my hands full with my 5.5sq.ft. area as it is.

I believe SoG would be better for bigger grows... bigger lights... light movers... etc.

But I don't have experience with SoG... just quasi-experience with SCRoG.
Those are just my thoughts. Not a bible.

Hope all this helps Diz... just post questions/doubts/etc... people are SUPER friendly in these boards... there's the occassional asshole... but that's only temporary.

Best to you dude :)

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Originally Posted by Jdog7000

Looks really good. Looking forward to this one!

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Thanks dog... Great to have you post here man :)

Best to all of you,

-turtle420 :cool:
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Looking very nice man :)