Terrorists Attack Grips London
Way to quote Chomsky. I had to write an exam paper on his innate language acquisition theory. :p
As if Christianity is a bunch-of-roses religion itself. I find it laughable people call it a peaceful, kindly religion when your damned to burn forever in the eternal fires of hell if you enjoy yourself at any point in your life. :rolleyes:
I have to say the Qu'ran does make me reconsider :( . Islam is most definitely a dangerous religion. My brother was telling me about the definition of 'infidel' he read in it, pretty scary stuff.
In the end, i'm more concerned about the wrong doings of my own "side" (as torog would word it) :cool: .
Terrorists Attack Grips London
God and Bush are not talking believe me lol,this attack today was just another tactic of satan as he moves himself into postion to get the job done,but either way and no matter what happens this whole thing will play out and will allow all of hearts to be troubled,then look to the skys and into our own hearts and the day of the Lord will be upon us,then and only then all tears will be wiped away..............Christ is the way.........believe now more then ever because the last days are upon us.....come Lord Jesus...
Terrorists Attack Grips London
Terrorists Attack Grips London
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Originally Posted by bruiser
the last days are upon us.
Can I hold you to that?
Terrorists Attack Grips London
bruiser how can you call this an act of satan if infact this is the result of islamic jhihadists? are you calling islamic jhihadists who are doing what they think their god wants them to satanists? cummon man the bible thing is not gonna work for this situation...get over it.
Terrorists Attack Grips London
Found this just now...very interesting!!!
This Telegraph story (thanks to Jeffrey Imm) makes sure to assure us in the first two paragraphs that the flag burning was done by only a tiny minority of extremists, ignored by the vast majority. Unfortunately, however, that tiny minority has the appeal of "pure Islam" on its side.
Islamic fundamentalists burned a Union flag and chanted the name of Osama bin Laden yesterday in defiance of the vast majority of mosques, which backed calls for Muslims to co-operate in the fight against terrorism.
A small number of extremists gathered outside two London mosques to protest but they were largely ignored by thousands of moderate Muslims leaving Friday prayers.
Imams across the country echoed the concerns expressed in a letter sent to more than 1,000 mosques last week by the Muslim Council of Britain, which warned against "mischievous elements" provoking "illegal activity".
But leaders also criticised the West's handling of the Middle East, the detention of Muslim suspects without trial and the "insensitivity" of the police.
One prominent imam argued that the council's letter could add credibility to the misleading impression that Muslims were harbouring terrorists when, in reality, 99 per cent of them were peace-loving citizens.
Mohammad Shahid Raza, the imam of the Leicester Central Mosque, said: "Some of the members of the community are interpreting this letter as something through which the larger community may criminalise the Muslim community.
"They may interpret it as 'Muslims are holding terrorists in their mosques', while 99 per cent of Muslims are peace-loving citizens in this country and have always co-operated with the authorities and the police forces."
Abdul Qayum, the imam of the East London Mosque in Tower Hamlets, said in his sermon that true adherents of Islam "could not conceive" of killing people unlawfully.
But he warned the international community against confusing this with the "freedom movements by the oppressed people of Palestine, Kashmir and Chechnya against the occupation forces".
In other words, his idea of "killing people unlawfully" may differ somewhat from that held by non-Muslims.
In an apparent reference to the anti-terrorism raids in the South-East this week, he added: "We are very worried about the reports of police insensitivity when arresting Muslims and the media coverage that follows."
At the London Central Mosque at Regent's Park, Abdesselam Daoud, a spokesman, said although the council's letter was not read out in full, its concerns were reflected in the day's sermon.
But as several thousand worshippers left the mosque, about 20 supporters of Al-Muhajiroun, a fringe fundamentalist group, burned a Union flag and chanted: "UK, you will pay, bin Laden on his way."
Anjem Choudary, a spokesman for the group, said: "There is nothing me and you, or the British services or the Government, can do about stopping an attack in this country. There is nothing MI5 or MI6 can do to stop al-Qa'eda from bombing London."
The overwhelming majority of the worshippers ignored the radicals, though a few shouted abuse.
Abu Hamza, the radical cleric, held his usual Friday prayer meeting outside the Finsbury Park Mosque, north London, watched by uniformed police officers.
He told nearly 150 Muslims that the only person who cared about the council's letter was Tony Blair.
He claimed that the alleged bomb-making material found by the police this week was "created material" and the arrests were a "conspiracy against these brothers".
The council's letter said that, according to the Koran, the murder of one individual was "tantamount to murdering entire humanity".
It added: "Islam categorically forbids violence and killing of innocents, let alone indulging in violence which can cause death and mayhem."
Iqbal Sacranie, the secretary general of the council, praised mainstream Muslim leaders for playing "a very important role in society".
He dismissed comments by Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, the spiritual leader of Al-Muhajiroun, who said Muslims should not co-operate with the authorities against members of the same faith.
Terrorists Attack Grips London
Another good article I found:
Certainly, neither bin Laden nor his principal associate, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are graduates of Islamic universities or seminaries. And so their proclamations ignore 14 centuries of Muslim scholarship, and instead take the form of lists of anti-American grievances and of Koranic quotations referring to early Muslim wars against Arab idolators. These are followed by the conclusion that all Americans, civilian and military, are to be wiped off the face of the Earth.
All this amounts to an odd and extreme violation of the normal methods of Islamic scholarship. Had the authors of such fatwas [non-binding legal opinions] followed the norms of their religion, they would have had to acknowledge that no school of traditional Islam allows the targeting of civilians. An insurrectionist who kills non-combatants is guilty of baghy, "armed transgression", a capital offence in Islamic law. A jihad can be proclaimed only by a properly constituted state; anything else is pure vigilantism.
http://www.islamfortoday.com/murad04.htm
Take note of the author and his location!
Terrorists Attack Grips London
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Originally Posted by makor01
bruiser how can you call this an act of satan if infact this is the result of islamic jhihadists? are you calling islamic jhihadists who are doing what they think their god wants them to satanists? cummon man the bible thing is not gonna work for this situation...get over it.
Actually any one who would do such a thing would have to be doing the work of satan,if they are doing this to serve their God their God must be satan,well put it this way they don't serve the Lord,and by the way this bible stuff as you put it is alive and well and playing out before your very eye's,keep tuning in alot more shit is going to hit the fan over the next couple of years according to the scriptures.......but in the meantime don't panic these things must happen before the coming of the Lord..........peace be with you all...what most people fail to understand this is not a political war by any means this is infact a holy war! that has been building up for the last several years.......next move will be in the next few years will be marshall law in the free world,the us is close to that now!,the soldiers are in the streets and everyone is welcoming ther presence,give it a few more years and things will be played out in a much larger degree.....you still can't see it?....just remember these conversations,over the next little while....and perhaps then youl'l believe but for your sake right away.........look to the skys the Lord is coming
Terrorists Attack Grips London
WOW! This is a rich thread....Psycho we don't always see eye to eye but tonight you are hitting 100%......I'm really impressed... :D
These acts have to be taken on an individual basis...you can't blame an entire religion for the acts of a few....great posts!
Terrorists Attack Grips London
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
WOW! This is a rich thread....Psycho we don't always see eye to eye but tonight you are hitting 100%......I'm really impressed... :D
These acts have to be taken on an individual basis...you can't blame an entire religion for the acts of a few....great posts!
Thanks!!! As you know, we have our own Jesus freaks blowing up abortion clinics in the name of the Lord....all Christians aren't nuts though. :D .....NOT saying I'm a Christian! :D
