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07-07-2005, 12:39 PM #1OPSenior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
LONDON - Three explosions rocked the London subway and one tore open a packed double-decker bus during the morning rush hour Thursday. The blasts killed at least two people and reportedly injured more than 90 in what a shaken Prime Minister
Tony Blair called a series of "barbaric" terrorist attacks.
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Blair said it was clear the attacks were designed to coincide with the opening of the G-8 summit in Gleneagles, Scotland. The prime minister said the meeting of world leaders would continue but that he would return to London.
"Whatever they do, it is our determination that they will never succeed in destroying what we hold dear in this country and in other civilized nations throughout the world," said Blair.
A group calling itself "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe" posted a claim of responsibility for the blasts, saying they were in retaliation for Britain's involvement in
Iraq and
Afghanistan. The Web statement, republished on the site of the German magazine Der Spiegel, could not be immediately confirmed.
Britain's Home Secretary Charles Clarke said there were three explosions in the subway and one on a bus. "We do not know who or what organizations are responsible for these terrible criminal acts," Clarke said.
The blasts came one day after London was awarded the 2012 Olympics. Giselle Davies, a spokeswoman for the
International Olympic Committee, said the committee still had "full confidence" in London.
Bloodied and bandaged witnesses reported panicked crowds fleeing the blast sites. A witness at the bus explosion said the entire top deck of the bus was destroyed.
Sir Ian Blair, London's police chief, said he was concerned the explosions were a coordinated attack but said he wouldn't speculate on who was responsible. He said officials had found indications of explosives at one of the sites.
Police reported "a number of fatalities" at one London subway station. "Things are still relatively confused," Superintendent John Morgan said.
Denying an earlier report, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said that
Israel was not warned by Scotland Yard in advance of the blasts.
"We have been at a very high state of alert. Of course if there had been any kind of specific warnings we would have dealt with it," Blair said.
One witness, Darren Hall, said some passengers emerging from an evacuated subway station had soot and blood on their faces. He told BBC TV that he was evacuated along with others near the major King's Cross station and only afterward heard a blast.
Police confirmed an explosion destroyed a double-decker bus at Russell Square in central London.
Paul Woodrow, an official with the ambulance service, told reporters that rescue operations were ongoing and that "there are large numbers of casualties." Officials at the Royal London Hospital told BBC that 95 injured had been brought into that hospital alone.
Jay Kumar, a business owner near the site of the bus blast, said he ran out of his shop when he heard a loud explosion. He said the top deck of the bus had collapsed, sending people tumbling to the floor.
Many appeared badly injured, and bloodied people ran from the scene.
"A big blast, a big bomb," he told The Associated Press. "People were running this way panicked. They knew it was a bomb. Debris flying all over, mostly glass."
"I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang, I turned round and half the double decker bus was in the air," Belinda Seabrook told Press Association, the British news agency.
Police said incidents were reported at the Aldgate station near the Liverpool Street railway terminal, Edgware Road and King's Cross in north London, Old Street in the financial district and Russell Square, near the British Museum.
Bradley Anderson, a subway passenger, told Sky News that "there was some kind of explosion or something" as his train reached the Edgware Road station in northeast London.
"Everything went black and we collided into some kind of oncoming train," Anderson said.
Simon Corvett, 26, who was on an eastbound train from Edgware Road station, said: "All of sudden there was this massive huge bang."
"It was absolutely deafening and all the windows shattered," he said. "There were just loads of people screaming and the carriages filled with smoke.
"You could see the carriage opposite was completely gutted," he said. "There were some people in real trouble."
London's cell phone network was working after the explosions but was overloaded and spotty, limiting communication.
The explosions sent stocks plummeting in Europe, with several of the major indexes down 3 percent.
On March 11, 2004, terrorist bombs on four commuter trains in Madrid killed 191 people.XTC Reviewed by XTC on . Terrorists Attack Grips London LONDON - Three explosions rocked the London subway and one tore open a packed double-decker bus during the morning rush hour Thursday. The blasts killed at least two people and reportedly injured more than 90 in what a shaken Prime Minister Tony Blair called a series of "barbaric" terrorist attacks. ADVERTISEMENT Blair said it was clear the attacks were designed to coincide with the opening of the G-8 summit in Gleneagles, Scotland. The prime minister said the meeting of world leaders Rating: 5
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07-07-2005, 01:11 PM #2Senior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
An act of cowards! Best wishes to all in London!!!
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07-07-2005, 01:16 PM #3Senior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
we stand with England and the English people.
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07-07-2005, 01:17 PM #4OPSenior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
I hope that people respond to this the way the Spanish people responded to the Madrid bombings, which was generally the right way to go. They blamed the government for getting involved with the US war and thereby bascially provoking reactionary fundamentalists to attack them.
That's what this is about. These are the consequences of empire.
Now before anyone gets stupid, I'll make the obligatory statement that progressive, radical, and revolutionary-minded people and people against the war should not side with reactionary fundamentalists. I think that their choice of targets--a civilian population--shows how bankrupt their ideology is. Funny, though, how you could say the same about the US ruling class, and on a much larger scale.
It's almost as if part of the US war is designed to stir up fundamentalists. The invasion and occupation naturally call forth opposition, but the repeated offenses to Islam--destroying the Quran at Guantanamo, the statements that Christian Fascist military people like Gen. Boykin make, and so on--stir up more indignation in the Muslim world than the people in the US even know about. This is fuel for fundamentalists, and it seems deliberate.
In other words, the US is creating its own enemy.
Like I said in another thread, I don't think there's anything inadvertent about it. They need justification for their wars for plunder. You can't just say, "We're gonna go get that oil no matter what"...you've got to have a pretext.
I think now more than ever we need to drive the Bush regime out. There's only one direction this shit can go, and that's more war and more police state measures, and more scapegoating. Imperialism is the enemy of ALL the worlds' people. That's where our fight is.
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07-07-2005, 01:22 PM #5Senior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
andf they have been attacked 3 times since.its a good thing that will never happen in the U.S. and England.
get attacked,pull out.what A PUSSY.thats why the american people reject your ideas and policies.
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07-07-2005, 01:24 PM #6Senior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
let's roll.
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07-07-2005, 01:25 PM #7Senior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
Thanks for putting my opinion into better words then I ever could XTC. The idea that a bunch of guys woke up one morning and thought "hey, let's be terrorists" is ridiculous. The Republican sheep (not generalising here, there are Republicans without the sheep values) are much more comfortable taking Bush's word that these kind of attacks are from freedom-hating maniacs and we're the Hollywood good guys. This is punishment, the same punishment we are currently giving in Iraq for the same punishment the US recieved on 9/11. People think we can blast the world into peace, we'll just blast it to pieces. Is there any way to escape that anymore?
Nobodies right if everybodys wrong.
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07-07-2005, 01:36 PM #8Senior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
Originally Posted by XTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
Jihad is not terrorism:
It is to be emphasized that terrorism against the innocent civilians, whether through aggression or suicidal means, is under no circumstances permissible in Islam. Islam encourages the oppressed people to struggle for their liberation and it commands other Muslims to help those who are oppressed and suffering, but Islam does not allow, under any circumstance, terrorism against non-combatants and innocent people. Terrorism is not Jihad, it is Fasad (mischief). It is against the teachings of Islam. There are some people who use their twisted arguments to justify terrorism for their causes, but it has no justification: Allah says:
"When it is said to them: 'Make not mischief on the earth,' they say: 'Why, we only want to correct things.' Indeed they are the mischief doers, but they realize (it) not." (Al-Baqarah: 11-12)
http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/eng...hFatwaID=51346
What has happened falls against the Islamic faith completely! This is not Bushs or Blairs fault...its an act of aggression by some dumb asses trying to make a name in history. To bit killers without the courage to confront their adversaries face to face or on a battle field.
Best of wishes to the fine people in London!
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07-07-2005, 01:42 PM #9Senior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
they have a strong leader in blair who just won re-election.
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07-07-2005, 02:50 PM #10Senior Member
Terrorists Attack Grips London
now watch the national id legislation sail through parliament...you won't be able to travel without it.
i feel sorry for the people who died and their families, and also for those who are going to have to live in the resulting id card dictatorship because of it. which won't keep them safe by the way.
the easter bunny could have made a website and claimed responsibility...if we're really sold that al-qaeda did this because of the war, i'd say it has MI5 or some other intelligence agency written all over it.
but i guess we'll see who stands to gain from this...qui bono?
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