it only about who is charge of the country if it a good then it would be good if a bad guy is in charge then it would be bad for the people, like how it was in eastern europe in the 80's,
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it only about who is charge of the country if it a good then it would be good if a bad guy is in charge then it would be bad for the people, like how it was in eastern europe in the 80's,
"Something as simple as an MRI...something used quite frequently to find cancer in the body is not used in Canada, they have to drive over the border for that."
- huh? we have MRI machines in canada (and not the flintstones version with a little bird inside the machine that creates the image with it's beak)...americans cross the border to get cheaper MRI's in canada
Canada MRI Scan Clinics for Radiology and Diagnostic Imaging Clinics in Canada
Socialism is not bad when your taxes are just raised a bit higher, and you can get socialized prescription medicine, socialized health care, or socialized college... Yeah, I'm pretty optimistic about socialism, but other opinions may vary.
i think the government has a role to play in making sure that essential services are available to everyone (defence, police, fire, health, sewage, roads, education, housing), but that doesn't mean the government has to operate the programs
Because socialism implies a government dominated centrally planned economy that allocates the nations resources at whatever the socialist rulers deem "just". It's principles detract from a market based economy system and without economic freedom you cannot have personal freedom.
If as you predict a third world war should occur I think you're going to need a little more protection than your tinfoil hat will afford. .. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stoned88911
Healthcare and education should be free to everyone.
Financial success is a joke , I have made more money in the last 30 years than most people can dream of.
I have dined in the finest restaurants , drank expensive wines and flown first class , I have always been blessed with the ability to make money.
I would trade it all to be able to walk without pain , I have had MRI scans and doctors prodding and poking me and nobody can tell me what the cause is.
I am very happy with the lengths the docs have gone to in thier quest to help me , I suppose after all those years of working and paying taxes I am reaping the benefits of a society that believes in the idea of free healthcare for all.
The clinic I attend is a private clinic but my care is funded by the NHS.
I think it's rather funny that the conservatives are always refering to the founding fathers and what not. If they even had the slightest knowledge of history they would know that the very figures that they hold up as standards and ideals were themselves mostly liberals. That's right Jefferson, Franklin, Rosseau, Voltaire, even Washington they were the fuition of a great liberal movement that started with the Renessance and then reemerged stronger in the Enlightenment. Now they were all products of their time so their liberal then is not ours now, but I can assure you that the conservatives were in favor of the royals holding all property and power and anyone who went against them was a liberal in that they believed in the equality of man before the law--a liberal--even revolutionary concept of the time--and the two great liberal movements, in France and America based themselves in a romaticised ideal of Ancient Greece and took it's notion of personal liberity from the Germanic peoples who replaced the Romans empire and who we know as all the various European strains--all Germanic--even Sanskrit comes from an archaic Germanic language. The whole movement of history is away from the conservative notions of power and toward a more equitable and higer notion of the value of a human being. The United States is already what you fear, but only for the power elite--they have socialism plus--they have just initiated the largest shift in wealth form the middle class to the upper in the history of history. Your notions of what capitalism actually is are distorted. You would not want to live in a purely capitalist country it would be hell, it would be like living in a world run by the mafia where only power and posessions counted for anything and these were continually irrevocably more and more concentrated in the hand of fewer and fewer families whose opinions would count billions of times more than you own, it would be a land were every road was a toll road and the price increased during rush hour. Listen when I was a young lad the average MD made about $25,000 a year--cared about his patients--who he actually was able to spend time with and made housecalls for a few bucks extra. Now most MD expect to be millionares by the time they are in their forties and care mostly about prestige possessions. This is just a fact when the difference between the rich and poor becomes so great as it has the entire society becomes focused on prestige possessions. When there is more equality of income the societies attentions are more focused on civic and human relationships. Also this always comes before the fall of a great country or empire, such as Rome where the income differential went from about 40-1 during the republic to the type of astonomical ratios we have today. I can't imagine how blind a person must be to be living through the first spasms of the fall of our nation as we have known it, as we are living through now, and think that the forces of unrestricted market speculation and gambling should not only go on as it has, but be more unrestricted and therefore coercive against everyone not in a privilaged position such as the CEOs and Power Elite who steer us from one crisis to another knowing we can always be divided by the slightest red herring, like flag burning, or gay marriage, so we are no threat to the shady money men who pull the strings and cause you to take up a polarized political position, which are both naive and ultimately self-defeating and futile, as regards the real values of human life and organization.
Socialism is considered "bad" because of the media influence of the huge corporations who run the world and exploit its peoples (whether for labour or the dehumanization known as consumerism), and who do not want to see its staggering profits cut down by a more even distribution of wealth.
Also, concepts of privilege and aristocracy still permeate the Western consciousness: i.e. if you're rich and you get tried, you can afford a hot-shot lawyer who'll get you off or serving minimal time. If you're in the camp of the have-nots you'll have a stooge provided for you who will easily lose to the crown shark they'll have attack you.
I'm all for small business and free enterprise, but the line must be drawn at global corporate slavery and the denial of basic rights (like access to health care and quality legal protection) from those raised in uneducated slums. Brazil's Umber has some interesting theories on all this.
What you said bro. Now all you misguided libertarians and neocons get thee to a nunnery or to youtube or a torrent index site and watch the entire series of the three part documentary Century of the Self by Adam Curtis -- the most important documentary that was ever made-- especially for Americans to see, and therefore never broadcast here or even carried as a selection on NetFlicks along with their reams of Jewish and Christian propaganda which they probably got for free that bulk up their instant viewing section trying to pass for history. Here is a clue: read Bondage of the Mind by Gold. I bet if you were raised anything like I was that you will be amazed that the most basic things that are reported in the Old testement (Tora) are just out right lies with absolutely no historical parellel and no metaphorical significane worth the time of day. And I am not talking about angels and fantastic myths here, I am takling about what passes to the majoity of right thinking conservative Americans as history and it has not the slightest basis in truth, no more than the rediculous projections of "social Darwinism" the Nazis made to try to establish their own similiar myth of being the chosen people--I mean superior race. If you have any doubt that the Israelis have become the Nazis just compare what the Nazis did to the Jewish getto in Warsaw and what the Isralies are doing to the Palestenians with their walls and illegal settlers then maybe go to the yahoo news video archives and search for Wild West Bank and watch that news video and the absolute sincerity that the Jewish babe has when she says to the camera that the Palistinians must learn to fear them because God has chosen them as his special people and given them this land--and the love in her heart (she's so prescious.) The same video shows gangs of teenage Isralis teens attacking a defensless old Palestinian shepard with axe handles--completely unprovoked--and beat him to the ground--watch it--its on Fox news no less--how the hell did that slip through. Don't you just wish all the Isralies and Arabs would kill each other and leave us the fuck alone. The funny thing about it is they are the same people--they can trace the mitochondrial dna back--the Jews are Arabs--well mostly half breeds from traveling around, but the part of them that is pure Jew is pure Arab--that alone should tell you that there is something deeply wrong here with the peoples that came from the cannites--the Jews and the Palestinians aren't you sick of them--I am--they will never change and the measily five million jews that live in the US have us at odds with the billion Moslems and they are all just nuts with their lies and their desperate attempt to escape the reality and shock of naked existance without a monumental false identity that they built up out of fear and thin air. These people and their whole warped concept of a partisan predatory evil God is insane and the fact that it was globbed onto a religion that was just begining to introduce the rudiments of a transcendent understanding of life to a spiteful and venemous nest of professinal rabbis--it was just a natural thing for such a people to murder an enlightened being just like it would happen in most moslem countries today is a Jesus appeared among them and spoke up--their the same people--its in their genes--except for those Jews who descended from the Kazars which was a sizable kingdom that converted to Jewdism in total when their king converted. These people did not come from Palestine at all like the "real" Jews--they were Turks--you can see it in the somatotype of many Russian Jews" they are genetically Turks with a little Russian and Cossack and Pole and German thrown in due to rape and ethnic mixing. It's all the same old divide and conquer bullshit. There are no Jews and Moslems and Christians itls all just a way of keeping humanity divided and enslaved by the kind of bastards who would feel no guilt at all for depriving anyone of anything as long as it made them richer--even if its only on paper--their illusion is worth more to them than your life. The worst of humanity leads us. The people who are totally self-decieved lead all over the world and people love them for it--see NPR's radio lab program "lying to ones self" and listen to the last fifteen minutes about the self-deception test that was developed--tell me that doesn't make your assumption's neck snap? That's your assignment--go forth and free you mind from knee jerk reactionism. --or not.
cheers
if the jews who converted are not real jews, then are the christians who converted from judaism not real christians either?