Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by Bong30
.... If we want weed legal we can't make it political....
that is one of the most sensible and non-sensible things i've ever heard you say and it gets to the root of one of our biggest problems, everything has become political. politics has infiltrated every facet of our lives, it regulates our everyday existence to an extent never dreamed of by the framers of our constitution. 200+ years ago i'm sure they believed that the separation of powers that they built into this government would keep the power hungry at bay, they just didn't stop to think that the separate branches might be so corrupt as to work together to destroy the freedoms that they were created to protect.
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by Bong30
NO.... I do believe that once My generation (X) (im 36) is in Office. Weed will be legal.
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Yeah once these people who are stuck with the Reefer madness mentality are out of power will there be change. Its only a matter of time before the baby boomer and the kids of the baby boomer generation fill our political system. We see weed no differently then alcohol and no reason why they can't be "equalized". At the very least I could see America being more like Amsterdam. Not legal but tolerated.
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by Zimzum
Yeah once these people who are stuck with the Reefer madness mentality are out of power will there be change....
i wouldn't count on it. those in power already know that weed poses no real threat, but they refuse to give up the control that prohibition gives them. what makes you think that the next generation of politicians will be any different. it's not a matter of what's best for the people, it's what's best for the political machine that counts with those folks.
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
i wouldn't count on it. those in power already know that weed poses no real threat, but they refuse to give up the control that prohibition gives them. what makes you think that the next generation of politicians will be any different. it's not a matter of what's best for the people, it's what's best for the political machine that counts with those folks.
Most of the people in power now have been breed to be in power or have held onto power for too long. I can see down the road major change when we as Americans get tired of being stepped on and lied too. Add term limits to all offices of our government. When Senators can't be senators for 50+ years then people will come first. We put more into our military then everything else combined. Once the war on terror comes to an end we will then be back to the war on illiteracy again.
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
i wouldn't count on it. those in power already know that weed poses no real threat, but they refuse to give up the control that prohibition gives them. what makes you think that the next generation of politicians will be any different. it's not a matter of what's best for the people, it's what's best for the political machine that counts with those folks.
Absolutely correct. It is the Baby Boomer generation that is running the ship of state right now. They have learned nothing except how to hold on to power. The more laws on the Books, the more protection they have to foist their views on us. Why do you think they passed the patriot act, to protect us,~LOL~it was to protect them from us. If they can jump into your life at any time for any reason (suspicion of terrorists activities) and rendition you to Guantanamo to be held without due process, the fear factor isolates them from us even more. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want to end up in Guantanamo for calling Bush an asshole, could happen under the patriot act, could be construed as an overt act of terrorism, first I call him an asshole and it escalates to a full blown security threat on the presidents life, this is the insanity of the Patriot Act, it can be interpreted in any crazy way the government wants. Just remember you who voted for this asshole, not once, but god only knows, twice, that it is you that are responsible for all this chaos and this deprivation of our freedoms under the guise of FEAR. The key words are Smoke and Mirrors!
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by Zimzum
....I can see down the road major change when we as Americans get tired of being stepped on and lied too....
the capacity of the american people to endure being lied to is unequaled among other so-called free peoples. our hubris has bred a complacency that keeps us blind to the dirty tricks being played on us by our elected officials.
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
the capacity of the american people to endure being lied to is unequaled among other so-called free peoples.
This is the age of information. Most people see whats going on in the world who have access to the internet. I wont say we haven't been lied too but our government isn't trying to tell us the sky is orange. When we are lied to its a slap in the face to every citizen. We want the truth, no matter how bad it maybe. I remember GS going off about FEMA camps. Maybe they are real but for a different purpose. Our government knows our patience runs thin and are preplanned for some type of revolt.
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by Mrs. Greenjeans
I was wondering about the growers myself. Personally, I come from a long line of bootleggers, so me growing dope is just a variation on a theme. Damn revenuers!;)
"Damn revenuers".........good point! It could be where they would have to prove intent to sell or deliver; kind of like Alaska laws.
To address the part about the democrats trying to save us from ourselves, I blame the insurance lobby for a lot of this bullshit legislation that gets passed. Once again, always follow the money. The insurance folks regulate personal behaviour so that they don't have to pay out benefits to people whose health may have been damaged by overindulgence in one substance or another. If you realize lower insurance premiums because you quit smoking it's not because anyone cares about you. It's because they don't want to have to pay for your iron lung further down the road. And politicians on both sides of the fence toady to whoever has the most money. He who pays the piper calls the tune.
You still didn't answer why you think the Dems would be the pro-cannabis party.....
I still say that the U.S. should be run by business people instead of lawyers. When your dealing with a 12 trillion dollar economy with credits, debits, inventory levels, etc........how can a personal lawsuit attorney like Edwards be considered as the shit? NOT saying it's JUST Edwards....just an example.
Besides that....wouldn't a business man see the potential for profits with cannabis?
Have a good one!:s4:
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
You still didn't answer why you think the Dems would be the pro-cannabis party.....
That's because I never said that.:D
Republican and pro-cannabis
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Originally Posted by Zimzum
This is the age of information. Most people see whats going on in the world who have access to the internet....
we've got information coming out our asses. i can find sites that will tell me just about anything i want to know and then i can turn around and find a site that will tell me how full of shit the first site was and then another with a completely different set of facts and so on and so on....
are you getting the picture yet? with information comes misinformation and disinformation and a slew of varying shades of grey. it all depends on who you put your trust in and we have no one left to trust. conspiracy theorists aside, the american people are still putting their trust in a system of checks and balances that have been letting them down for years.
