Republican and pro-cannabis

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Can somebody please please please explain to me how one can be both Republican and pro-cannabis? Reassure me that there are indeed pro-cannabis Republicans on Capitol Hill. Do something to convince me that your very political ideals are not in direct contradiction to your personal practices.

I posited this question on the Giuliani, Hillary, Skink thread yesterday. Only Rebgirl stepped in to try to provide some clarity, then she was feeling under the weather and couldn't continue the discussion yesterday. So, I'll provide links to the original posts, and then sit back and wait for someone to explain this to me.

http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ml#post1292256

http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ml#post1292329


http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ml#post1292438

http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ml#post1292478

http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ml#post1292861

http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ml#post1292936

Of course, there are posts by others sprinkled about in there. This is just the exchange between Reb and I, since she was the only one who felt like answering at the time.

Mrs. Greenjeans Reviewed by Mrs. Greenjeans on 03-05-2007. Republican and pro-cannabis Can somebody please please please explain to me how one can be both Republican and pro-cannabis? Reassure me that there are indeed pro-cannabis Republicans on Capitol Hill. Do something to convince me that your very political ideals are not in direct contradiction to your personal practices. I posited this question on the Giuliani, Hillary, Skink thread yesterday. Only Rebgirl stepped in to try to provide some clarity, then she was feeling under the weather and couldn't continue the Rating: 5

[delusionsofNORMALity]

republican outlook and a pro-weed stance aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. a true republican view is one of limited governmental interference and capitalistic freedom, all the rest is merely to lure in the special interest groups and create the illusion of a difference between the two parties. legalization is actually more in line with the original republican point of view than the more socialist agenda forwarded by the democrats.

i'm sure that our more politically active members will disagree, but this is the view from outside.

[Psycho4Bud]

republican outlook and a pro-weed stance aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. a true republican view is one of limited governmental interference and capitalistic freedom, all the rest is merely to lure in the special interest groups and create the illusion of a difference between the two parties. legalization is actually more in line with the original republican point of view than the more socialist agenda forwarded by the democrats.

i'm sure that our more politically active members will disagree, but this is the view from outside.

VERY well put! Which party is always out to save your health? Anti-cigarettes, booze, etc.? It'll be the Republican party to finally give in to legalization because of the creation of jobs and taxation of the product. Money talks bullshit walks.....or in this case Donkey shit.

Have a good one!:s4:

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

a true republican view is one of limited governmental interference and capitalistic freedom,...legalization is actually more in line with the original republican point of view

Here's where I'm having a hard time understanding. I don't see anyone espousing these true and original points of view. I live in a predominantly Republican state, and I swear nobody sticks to the fucking subject, the subject being the original principles of the republican party. Why is there such disparity between what they're supposed to be about, and what they actually are about?

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

It'll be the Republican party to finally give in to legalization

How are they going to do this and still save face considering the hardline they've publicly toed on drugs?

[Psycho4Bud]

How are they going to do this and still save face considering the hardline they've publicly toed on drugs?

How do people vote FOR something two years ago and now today are "supposedly" completely against it? That's politics.......minds change like the winds.....

Have a good one!:s4:

[VaporDaddy]

Great discussion!
I have been very hard on Republicans/conservatives in the past although I would not say I always agree with the Liberals either. Infact some republican values fall inline with my own. However, the problem I have with with the American Right is the Party is not acting on its own values. IMO you can be a cannabis user AND a Republican BUT you should be very clearly and loudly opposed to many of the current policies and actions. ie; Drug war, etc...
Consider Giulianni declared war on pot smokers while he was mayor of N.Y. jailing tens of thousands for possesion of pot. What would he do as president!? On the other hand Hillary won't even talk about her own weed useand Barrack said he's against medical marijuana.

[Psycho4Bud]

An Oshkosh Republican is doing what many in his party might feel is unthinkable. State Representative Gregg Underheim is introducing a bill to legalize marijuana for medicinal purposes.

Underheim's motives stem from his own bout with prostate cancer.

Like any Republican, Underheim has strong convictions about the legalization of certain drugs, but his attitude about using marijuana for medicinal purposes changed after doctors removed his cancerous prostate.

Although Underheim didn't take any marijuana in his recovery, he was told of others who could have used it. "One of the themes that echoed consistently was the difficulty of chemotherapy."
WBAY-TV Green Bay-Fox Cities-Northeast Wisconsin News: Republican Lawmaker Introduces Medicinal Marijuana Bill


Rubin, who describes himself as a Republican admirer of President Ronald Reagan and preaches in front of a U.S. flag, says his beliefs are sincere. He has Friday night services where smoking marijuana is part of the ritual and preaches twice more on the weekends, using texts from Old Testament on Saturday and the New Testament on Sunday, the newspaper said.

While he has been a marijuana enthusiast since his college days, Rubin told the Daily News that he became convinced it is the tree of life during a family crisis three years ago.
Preacher faces prison for marijuana ritual

Have a good one!:s4:

[VaporDaddy]

An Oshkosh Republican is doing what many in his party might feel is unthinkable. State Representative Gregg Underheim is introducing a bill to legalize marijuana for medicinal purposes.

Underheim's motives stem from his own bout with prostate cancer.

Like any Republican, Underheim has strong convictions about the legalization of certain drugs, but his attitude about using marijuana for medicinal purposes changed after doctors removed his cancerous prostate.

Although Underheim didn't take any marijuana in his recovery, he was told of others who could have used it. "One of the themes that echoed consistently was the difficulty of chemotherapy."
WBAY-TV Green Bay-Fox Cities-Northeast Wisconsin News: Republican Lawmaker Introduces Medicinal Marijuana Bill


Rubin, who describes himself as a Republican admirer of President Ronald Reagan and preaches in front of a U.S. flag, says his beliefs are sincere. He has Friday night services where smoking marijuana is part of the ritual and preaches twice more on the weekends, using texts from Old Testament on Saturday and the New Testament on Sunday, the newspaper said.

While he has been a marijuana enthusiast since his college days, Rubin told the Daily News that he became convinced it is the tree of life during a family crisis three years ago.
Preacher faces prison for marijuana ritual

Have a good one!:s4:

I imagine he would introduce pro welfare legislation too if he was poor all of a sudden lol

[delusionsofNORMALity]

It'll be the Republican party to finally give in to legalization....

i wouldn't count on that. as the republicans scramble to curry favor with special interest groups like big business and the religious right, they seem to lose sight of the original goals of their party. they have become the party of reactionaries with minds trapped firmly in a cold war daze, constantly searching for another enemy to blame for their inevitable failings.

we seem to be caught in a choice between stalinesque fools and brown shirted thugs and i'm not sure which is worse.