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WHOA!Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
No accusation intended! I DO know you better than that!
I was speaking strictly from my own experiences with medical and recreational users.
I've never seen anyone holding a sign on the freeway ramp that said 'just want to get stoned'.
Well you should catch the 'locals' boards when the noob kids start posting about their desperation, or 'recreational' when they are asking if you can get high off bong water.Quote:
Originally Posted by psteve
LOL yeah I've seen it. Hopefully not so much anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
But still, they're not like bums. Bums are controlled by their addiction. Those kids are just angry that they can't get what they want. More like a tantrum than a withdrawal symptom.
toucheQuote:
Originally Posted by psteve
i agree with everything horror business says u are obviously educated on the herb my brother and he is just fed up with the flow of shitty Canadian weed.thats it.dont fuckin hate on him he isnt ripping on anyone for smoking beasters,as i see it he is trying to do u all a favor by giving u a heads up on exactly what it is,Fools Weed.no smell(unless hey) shitty taste(i personally think they taste like chemicals and ass) and,barely a high.why is this?because they KIEF THE SHIT OUT OF THEM thats why there is usually no crystals on the outside of the bud and idk about u guys,but i sure dont want to spend 50-60 on an 1/8 of weed to look at it.i wanna SMOKE it and get HIGH. not buzzed with a headache and all i wanna do is sleep after cuz that is the best way to describe it,it leaves u ABSOLUTELY DRAINED
Well said, and you're right, I was simply trying to do everyone a favor as it's being distributed all across the U.S. But I guess some people would rather buy beasters and pretend they're smoking dank because of the appearance than have an enjoyable high.
beasters is like the new shwag where im from. Shwag hasnt been around in like 10 years. It's beasters or dank ..
Losers who deal here wet the beasters to get more weight.
All I know, is that I'm sick of this crap.. I've gone through a half ounce in less than a week. I have to smoke so much of it to catch a decent high. Then, once you come down, it's a terrible burn out t hat makes you want to do nothing but sleep all day long.
One thing, if you say it's coming from Vietnamese growing it in BC, that's not really Canada's "fault." More or less the people who are growing it.
Definitely not Canada's fault, I'm not ignorant enough to blame one problem on the whole country like the war seems to do, and the majority of american's view on the middle east. Not all are terrorists, just like not all people who live in America agree with the government,lol a majority don't.
Yeah, the comedown sucks on this current massive "batch". Luckily I haven't bought it in over a month. Just actual dank :rasta:
Horror, you still haven't responded to my posts about the economics of beasters. You're going to be paying less for dank if beasters exists. The demad for weed will be constant, and spread across schwag, mids, beast, and KB. If you take our beast, then the demand for mids and KB will rise as will the price.
ya man idk i used to get some real nice beasters that actually smelled like weed lol, and actually got nice and high, but lately ive been getting this shit when i cant find heady shit, and man im smokin on some now and the taste is just terrible, taste like complete ass
People arent buying it out of desperation, they are buying it cause they want to smoke weed, and sorry to burst your bubbles, but this is weed. THis gets people high. If someone wants to smoke it they are going to, and to say that they are smoking out of desperation unjustified. To be so stuck up as to say that people who smoke beasters are any more desperate to get high than you are is ridiculous.
Beasters is great blunt weed, it's cheap, and it burns slowly because it is moist... u need a grinder or long ass fingernails though
Again, if someone sells it for the price of top quality weed and calls it dank, that's a different story. But alone, this is mid grade weed, period. It can't all be dank. Be angry with the dealer/grower, not the weed.
that's actually a pretty good point and undebatable.. that's just how supply and demand works very good point cole.Quote:
Originally Posted by coledog855
how is beasters NOT mids? beasters is mids plain and simple here in NY, close close close to canada...
beast is low dank. In the south we have
1. Schwag-seedy, stemy, and dry.
2. Mids-some seeds, stemy, soft, few hairs and crystals
3. Beasters-no seeds, few stems, dense, tons of hairs, sometimes a lot of crystals
4. KB-no seeds, small stems, fluffy, hairy, covered in crystals.
Ahh.. like Beasters as a decoy so that the nOObs will buy up the pretty, yet crappy, weed and leave the solid mids for the rest of us! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by coledog855
well said, i was fooled by this at first, but iwas def beasters.
glad im back on locally grown dro.
No, that really makes no sense whatsoever. The majority of beaster is sold at dank prices. Around 50 an 1/8th. If people stopped buying beasters, obviously the demand for something good would arise which in turn would make it more available and at a more reasonable cost. I honestly don't see how anyone can enjoy smoking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by coledog855
People buy it, and think it's dank, so obviously something better, something really dank will cost much more. At least $10 more an eighth.
I'm not sure how obvious that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by horror business
If beasters are grown in large part to be kiefed and processed into hash, which is easily smugglable compared to product, the gangs doing it will keep on doing it even if the demand for beasters (essentially a BYPRODUCT or waste product of hash) drops.
I consider the supply of bud to be somewhat constant. If beasters go away, the supply shrinks, and prices rise accordingly.
The way to get ris of dumb beasters is to legalize so that the supply of bud INCREASES and everyone has access to locals.
Well, the way I see it, if people take the knowledge from this thread, when they are offered beasters and charged $50 for an 8th, they can say "LOL, I'm not paying 50 for that, it's just beasters, that's not dank." and either get it for a lower price, or simply go to another dealer and get something they like. If everyone would do that, that would be preferable. People would become more educated on good cannabis, and may decide to grow their own top quality cannabis.
It's not as if the market depends on beasters. As my thread stated, beasters is shitty weed that isn't good for anyones health, and a waste of money. Why would anyone want to smoke that? Theres all other varieties of domestically and imported cannabis that aren't beasters. And if that's not good enough for you, then grow your own. But why keep on getting ripped off?
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Originally Posted by horror business
It's actually pretty simple economics that makes sense to most people. The most basic concept in economics is probably "supply and demand".
I'll try to explain this to you one last time...
...Beasters has it's own share of the marketplace. The price range is on average 40-50 an 8th. The exact numbers don't matter, b/c evertying is relative to your market. Back to the point. Beasters avgs. 40-50. This fits in between mids that cost 30-40 for a quarter, and KB that costs 55-70 for an 8th. You will have a constant amount consumers who spread their money over mids, beast, and KB. The beaster consumers are usually people who want something better than mids, but can't afford KB. This all leads to our current set of prices due to the level of consistant demand in todays market. If you remove beast from the marketplace, then mids and KB will be left. Being as how beast is a very popular type, a gaping hole is left between the other types. Now the demand for mids and KB has risen. Especially for KB since there is no bridge between that and mids. With a rise in demand comes the ability of dealers to raise their prices with no loss in business. Now we are all paying more for KB and mids instantly. There are two roads this will lead to. Either more commercial weed will spring up and the quality will be no better than beasters b/c commercial growers are in the game to make money. OR This doesn't happen and we're stuck paying 60-70 an 8th unless we know the grower.
Most likely, the first will happen. You CANNOT prevent subpar products when a vastly profitable marketplace exists for that product.
If you plan on owning a business one day, you're going to need to know A LOT about economics!
And I'll try to explain to you one more time: Beasters are SHIT, and mids are better, lol.
Where im from all people smoke around here is that same fucking beasters in your pics. I have allways told people it sucks ass but everyone thinks its good shit. I personaly agree with you that it sucks ass and just looks like it would be good. But the thing is their is so much beast around where i live that i have been smoking it for a couple of years, and you can get some really good beast but its really really rare. Most of the time the shit is what you were talking about wet.. shitty... leaf infested fools gold. "DUDE LOOK AT ALL THE Orange HAIRS" lmfao i have heard many a noob say that :rastasmoke:
Yeah I live in the South too (Texas, Austin). The stuff in the pics I've seen in this thread makes it look pretty damn good, 8/10 in terms of looks if you ask me. That shit often sells anywhere from $45-60 around the UT area. I haven't seen that type of bud, but I have been offered a choice of beaster nugs from a dealer. He had two different strains, one looked decent, another looked AMAZING (like some of the pics). I asked which one he liked better and he pointed to the not-so-pretty bud. He said for some reason it smoked bad and didn't give you nearly as good of a high. I found it odd that such beautiful buds could turn out so poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by coledog855
I can't believe that Texas schwag (which can be pretty damned good) which you can get from 40-60 an ounce depending on who you know, can be better quality than stuff that is seedless, really nice looking, and not compressed. And yes, I've had good schwag that half a bowl gets me high while some good-looking seedless bud takes two bowls for the same effect (although I wasn't buying the bud, I always try before I buy).
I wish i had the magical power of determining the strain of a bud by looking at pictures of it.
Here's the deal.
You shouldn't be buying weed from people you don't know. Or at least, know who they are and where to find them.
If someone sells you B'ster, tell them it sucked, and that if they ever sell it to you again without telling you what it is first, your grandchildren will still be pissing on their grave in the next century.
Ah yes, I would have to say you are indeed correct. I overlooked that part.Quote:
Originally Posted by sttomassmoker
I would risk seriously getting my ass kicked if idid that. I would just stop buying from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by psteve
Well, I just thought I'd let you know that last night I bought 6 grams from a brickweed dealer, to hold me over until tomorrow when I get an ounce of some goods, and what do you know? He shows up with EXACT same beasters that I used to get, and everyone else is getting all over the country. At least it wasn't 50 an 8th, it was 40 for 6 grams, so I'm not as pissed about it. I only have about a gram left of it, lol, like I said, it doesn't get you that high... and if you don't smoke more during the comedown, you feel like shit, all drained...
There's an very interesting article about beasters in one of the Cannabibles. Like HB, the author is EXTREMELY against this type of weed. My issue would be in the false advertising.....dont say its one thing when it's really another. But if you DO know exactly what you're buying (and paying appropiately) everyone has their poor mans version of things.
oh ive seen it all around washington st, smells just like hay, but to noobies its danky..nothing to special, i think i got an oz for $200 :/
I think I have fucking beasters! WTF I just smoked 2 bowls and im not even buzzed! The bud is normal green and has red mixed in.....
like soap here in britain. £20 a 1/2oz... £130 for 4 and a 1/2oz.. and £200 for 9oz(the prices round my way)... people buy it because its cheap although haven't seen any for a good few months so i dunno if its still going about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
yeah i got some one time that had salt all over it too. i hate that shit.
I just got .6 grams of the exact same batch of beasters as the pictures I initially posted from a completely different dealer.
I bought an 8th from the Nirvana Indoor Mix, (didn't know what strain, but it could be any from the indoor mix) and he was supposed to give me 10 dollars in change, but didn't have it, so instead gave me .6 of the beasters that he was also selling.
He was selling the beasters for $50, and what I got for $70. What I got smells like no other, I'm about to smoke it, but I had to update this, because I got the same beasters. This time it's dry though. I asked him how much I could get an ounce for, and he said "$350". It's a little pricey, especially for this, but if I tried I could probably turn it into $500. But I don't want to contribute to the Vietnamese gangs in Canada. (and not get high) Well, I packed a one hitter of the beasters which I'm going to smoke before I smoke the Nirvana Mix 8th. It smells extremely fruity.
UPDATE: Just took two hits of the same beasters, but from a different dealer, and just like always, no flavor what so ever. If you want to know what it tastes like, take an empty bowl, and take a hit using a lighter. That's what it tastes like. Nothing.
I won't know if it will get me high since I'm about to pack a bowl of some real stuff, which will.
UPDATE: I must admit I am feeling more high than I was before I smoked the beasters (I had finished my last joint of high-mids about an hour ago). Perhaps it's because this time the weed is actually dry, that I'm high, but never the less it still has no flavor whatsoever, and I like my weed to have a taste.
raleigh has been seeing this stuff quite a bit. my main guy sells quite a bit of it,but has lately started buying quality headies...usually the beasters gets me high, i mean it has a weed taste to it, but its not a funky sticky weed taste..its like a soggy plant taste and the high usually isnt my favorite...hopefully things will start to change
Well, there's no doubt reb knows how to hit a pipe, so I'm positive you've been stricken with a case of the BEASTERS!! AHH! :cursing:Quote:
Originally Posted by rebgirl420
I am in north central MA and came across the SAME looking stuff last year.
Look absolutely tremendous BUT was wet and smelled like freshly cut grass.
Didn't do a thing for me...NOTHING
I am assuming it wasn't cured properly and I told my buddy that. Told him it was a damned shame that someone could grown such nice looking nuggets and not know how to finish them off.
Anyway....I wouldn't take anymore if it were given to me.
Stealth, the only thing they care about is making money. Not all dealers, but those who distribute this depraved cannabis. Well, no use getting all bent out of shape about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth331
I agree...I bit the bullet but refused more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganj
I think I actually gave it away.
Oh well...??
I don't even want the schwag I have right now...:puke:
Not worth taking the time to wrap it.
:(
i have some of this, i dont know if the pic quality is enough for you to tell.
beaster? please no please no please no.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/...050/dankkk.jpg