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So as far as my rooms go I sealed everything up turned on the co2 and its looking like the perfect room is gonna be my route, due to current problems construction has slowed anyone care to help check out my plant problem threads bare with me as I'm try to stay patient but its looking like I may be starting over due to the fact that the current problems will probably wipe this crop out, here's my current cut n paste...

Ok so check this out... is this from the Ph causing lockout in turn showing nutes deficiency or is this from the root aphids some input... and here's my info to hopefully help me get some more responses...

What is your experience level? novice

Your Equipment: .1) Type and wattage of lights? Mh and hps 2 1k setups in each room with 1 spare 1k system if needed, and a 400w cfl starter cab
2) Distance from tops?26" in veg 6" in cab, 24" in fflower
.3) Reflector type? Vented cool tube set-up
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? No, perfect room w/ 1500ppm cco2
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? Multiple circ fans
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? All 1k, veg 6k mh blue bulbs, 6500k cfls, hps's dual spectrum for flower, and 3700k hps's

Your medium: .7) Specific brand and type of soil? Fox farms straight happy frog for pre veg, straight oceans for veg, straight amazon bloom for flower
.8) Size of container? Solos to 1gal to 5gal.
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?seeds go straight into happy frog no pre germ, clones in rapid rooters

Your nutrients and water: 10) Source of water? Tap or distilled with equilibrium(cal/mag) What's it's ph before adjusting? 6.8 +/- .2
11) Method of checking water ph? Drops
12) Method of adjusting water Ph? Ph up and white vinegar
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. Soul synthetics grow 3-1.25-1.25, soul synthetics infinity .5-2.5-1.5, soul synthetics bloom 1.5-4.5-3, following instructions just started feeding a few weeks ago only on two plants but starting others soon(too young) feeding every other water or every other week about the same
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?1 watering between feeding, and water until see run off
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) equilibrium 1-1-2(Cal/mag)
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? Have been slowly dropping to less than 4.0 in all fox farm soils(current problen think its bad soil)
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? 6.8 give or take .2 ...your runoff ph? 4.0 or less (current problem)
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? Not currently

Your growroom: 19) Indoors or outdoors? In
20) What size of closet, room or hut? Two 6x7.5ft rooms
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? 80f give or take 2deg 50-70%rh ...With lights off? Currently 24/0
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? Yes, root aphids

Your strain: 23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) Delicious northern light blue, delicious carmello, mandala satori, barneys tangerine dream, mixed hybrids
24) From seeds or clones? Seeds
25) Is this an autoflower strain? None, no

So anyone following sorry to let you down but thanks to my local shit for nothing hydro shops soil(rotten, and pest infested fox farm soils) all my plants are on verge of death... but if it goes that way ill be sanitizing and emptying everything and starting over the next day so no down time is a good thing and well be up and running again... so stick with me n see what happens!!

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Originally Posted by billydakid6812

Your not re-using soil are you? And I always rinse my ffof before putting my plants in it, that soil is awesome, but it's super hot. I have also ran into bad batches of soil where I could just not get the ph in check. I went back to my hydro store and they gave me a new bag of soil. After that I bring my ph meter right to the store and poke it through the bag to get a quick reading. There is so much debate about ffof and getting bad batches, people think it cant happen it not possible, but it is.

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You are spot on bud even my hydro guy truer to tell me that bad ffof is impossible, he was a complete jerk offering no compensation for 200$ worth of soil and basically telling me I was an idiot!!! I wanted to knock his head in but I held back and walked out with my chin up, but yes ur right through this I've found alot of people have had this issue, and other issues since they recently changed where the get there dirt from, alot of people are disappointed but I've always used it and don't even know what else I'd try, I've seen alot of people getting poorly mixed(big clumps) turning bags extra hot etc... but thank you so much the feed back really puts me at ease and I certainly need it lol!!!

Oh and by the way no I'm not reusing my soil...

Also so aside from all these problems aside, I'm really looking forward to doing side by sides, now since I have two rooms, one for flower and veg I'm trying to figure out how I can do this as I'm geeking excited to do some scrog side by sides and sog too.. now without putting alot of thought into it I originally was thinking I'd just veg on one side under a screen until time to flip and have clones ready for the screen on the other room and start them as soon as the other one goes into flower and I could just alternate moving my sog plants back n forth to what ever meets there needs but as it turns out I had to set the rooms up differently now I don't know how I could do this!? I had thought about adding a third room for sog but then I could only do one cycle(one room for flower and veg) which I don't wanna do or use a third room for scrog but in the same sense I would also have to go through a full cycle before starting another which I don't wanna do, I've even thought of rolling scrog tables but I wouldn't be able to get to 4x4 table past eachother to switch sides lol any ideas!??? Someone help!! Lol

If you werent doing SOG id say get a tent or build a decent size box...def a problem , but my grow experience is still pretty limited so probably should wait for someone with experience in growing scrog and sog. Soon i will be expanding my knowledge to those grows though. Good luck im excited to watch.

Your idea about having clones ready seems the most direct approach though.

Ya that's what I thought and alternating lighting it'd just be such a hassle to run all those sog plants back n forth for what ever stage they are in lol:-(

But seriously noone has a single response to the hundred problem threads I have!!?? Wow thanks people!! I filled out the copy n paste still nothing!!?? I'm gonna post a big one here right now about my soil problem and if I don't get some feedback I'm gonna go crazy please people!!

Ok so in simple turns I just went through 4 bags of ffof and every single one of the 2.0cu.ft. bags had a run off of 4.0 brand new.. ALL OF THEM.. after frustration I flushed a pot from each bag with straight Ph up(no plant in it just new soil being prepped) then I found that my two bags of happy frog were the same, frustrated after dealing with the hydro guy earlier and all my problems I decided to try a new hydro shop(I LOVE now btw) they were great but so irritated with this problem I bought 4 kinds of soil, two different kinds of roots(comparable to ffof, and ffhf) I got Humboldt earth, and I got pro mix, all these bags(soil tested) at the store with a ph of 6.8-7.1 all of them... since I love Aurora products I was excited to try the roots soils... but guess what every single bag I got toiday was the same¡!!!!!¡¡!!¡¡!!¡!!!¡!!???? Could not get them higher than 5.0 even with straight Ph up flush!!!!??? Off topic I also bought new gallons for my side by sides:-D I got dyna gro qts grow bloom n the micro, I got Aurora's soul line(which I have been running forever n LOVE) the grow, bloom, infinity, big swell, and peak, and aminos all in gallons!! I got Gen hyd Biothrive line, the Bio root, the grow, bloom, Cal/mag, n Bio bud, all qts.. And the fox farm trio soil, and fox farm connissour... talk about blowing ur wad!!! I'm broke now!! Back to the matter at hand I called around, realizing my original decision that it was a bad batch of oceans was wrong as its the same in all the soils three hydro shops told me run off is always two points below(which I don't believe cuz I've never seen that) so if its 4.5 om perfect cuz that means its 6.5, I called fox farms, Humboldt, dyna gro, and Aurora they all said it could be chunks of hot soil not mixed in multiple bags caused those bags to be too hot, they said the compost could be moist and re composting causing it, some said ignore the run off they are good soils just regularly water with 7.0 and ill be fine that it will maintain cuz the soils are made to, some said theres too many ingredients the soil runs across before run off that are hot i wont get acurate reading anyway, they ALL said run off should not be tested because it extremely inaccurate and I shouldn't believe this reading to test the soil itself, and Aurora said they're roots soil gets real hot when most due to re-composting to open the bag and let it breath over night and it should go way up n be ok once it starts to dry out again, like I said all the soils at the store before watering were at 7.0 -/+ .2, I tried all different waters nothing changed it.. I WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!!! and after losing my head probably a grand worth of this season down the tubes and all this round crazy exciting and expensive strains, I have to figure it out, and be able to help some peeps along the way!!! PLLLLEEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEE someone ANYONE!! INPUT!!??? I test with Ph drops so its not calibration either, all soils brand new, tonight ill let all the soils breathe and dry out and see if that helps like they said, but I doubt it anyone seen this anyone know what I'm seeing? What's going on?:wtf::mad:l:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse::beatd eadhorse::cursing::beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse::c ursing:

Come on people I have posted these problems every way imaginable for close to 3wks now, and have not gotten more than a couple responses!!! HEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!

Well Indi, the title of this thread is "Anyone Wanna See..." That didn't make me want to read any further and I wouldn't have given it another look but I've been laid up sick and have lots of time to kill.
I believe I may have answered you on a different thread about this? I'm not convinced that your pH measurements are reliable and that is where I'd look first. I don't believe anything but a lab quality instrument, two of them if the measurement doesn't make sense. Good luck, Bub.

Indie, take a breather bro. "It's only a weed"! Go with your heart & all will fall in place.

Sic Semper Tyrannus

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