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Originally Posted by streettrash
It's a young field of science and nothing is really "for sure" (as a scientist you should know, it never is) but to say we have no idea is just a bit ignorant.
I don't think you read this whole thing. And my comments weren't ignorant, because although you may have facts, we don't (by me I mean the general public), about other life anyways.
But again, In the post you quoted, I was basically saying that the persons opinion I was responding to was ignorant due to the stead fastedness of his uneducated opinion that it was possible but unlikely that other life existed. I am not stead fast in anything, and am always open to education from those educated about a subject, such as yourself. That is the opposite of ignorance.
I don't appreciate being called ignorant when you obviously haven't read all of my posts in this. Which there are about 20 of them.
Eva
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i just figured id throw in a post to this huge thread, that im not even gonna begin to read. - i think anytime anyone posts a thread about "God" or anything of the sorts, theyre just playing with fire, because no one on this board has the same beliefs.
we're all VERY open minded and opinionated.
we're all outside the box.
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Originally Posted by justinsane
i just figured id throw in a post to this huge thread, that im not even gonna begin to read. - i think anytime anyone posts a thread about "God" or anything of the sorts, theyre just playing with fire, because no one on this board has the same beliefs.
we're all VERY open minded and opinionated.
we're all outside the box.
It is okay to have a mature discussion, even as open minded individuals. It is just important not to get into an "I win" situation. You have to be adult (even if you aren't one), and agree to disagree if you have to. Having a power struggle with anyone over anything is pointless. If it isn't a win-win situation where at least one of you walks away from it with something new, then it isn't worth it.
Eva
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Actually it is not a contradiction. Jesus did sacrifice Himself for us. His sacrifice fullfilled the Law that was given to Moses.
Sorry, but God does get angry. The Bible tells us that. Anger is not a sin. What makes us angry and how we react ot it is where sin comes in.
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Don't you realize that the way god communicated with people in the time of moses was way different than now?
And this is one of those times where I will just agree to disagree. You are obviously one of those people who we have been talking about in this thread who is stead fast in your bible manual, we are damned to hell if we sin believing kind of person.
I really don't care to get into all of it all over again.
But seriously, whatever makes you happy. If living in fear of your angry god makes your life better, than that is all that matters. The worse thing that can happen is you will be right, or pleasanly suprised by a loving prescence that couldn't never posses such a low vibration. That, by the way is science. You feel bad when you are feeling low vibrations like anger jealousy, judgment. You feel good when you are joyous, and in love. Negative, Positive. I think it is way to human to really believe that god get MAD at you. I think if that were possible, we wouldn't exist. You think Noah's people were pissing off god? What do you think Bush, al-quida, and everyone else who claims to be a god loving person, yet hides horrible skelotons in a closet under the pretense OF religion. Which, by the way, is what your are talking about. I will repeat myself this one more time, for you :)
Religion is a business, spirituality about God. Spiritual people aren't afraid of god damning us to hell. We take responsability for our own lives and actions and believe that these things come back to us, good or bad. I believe god will let you ride it out, be bad. And reap what you sow. After all you learn from experience, not punishment.
Eva
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If you really think God is out to damn people and smite everyone and I live in fear etc. then you have no idea.
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If your going to quote me then use the quote button. I didn't say god is out to damn people. I said YOU believe that god get's mad at people and does things like the flood to kill off everyone because they were sinners.
I was pretty clear that damning people is the last thing my god is interested in.
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LOL ok I'm not going to argue symantics. My God is a loving and just God.
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Originally Posted by mont974x4
LOL ok I'm not going to argue symantics. My God is a loving and just God.
For your information, it's spelled "semantics". Apparently when you're busted by the thought police you become one of them... how horrifying
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lol dammit I must have been thinking about updating my anti-virus while typing that post.
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I'm not gonna argue synonyms.
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Originally Posted by mont974x4
LOL ok I'm not going to argue symantics. My God is a loving and just God.
Not arguing, I just don't like being misquoted by a really newbie who just joined the conversation. I don't care what you believe, as long as it makes you happy, I think I said that too. Tired of repeating myself.........
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I didn't mean to misquote you, just misunderstood your point. LOL Besides you missed my point too. Such is life on a messageboard.
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Originally Posted by rldqaz
god made us so he can kill who he wants
the lord giveth the lord taketh away blessed be the name of the LORD
Actually....man invented God. God had nothing to do with his being born.
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"What then, is the absurd? The absurd is that the eternal truth has come into existence in time, that God has come into existence, has been born, has grown up, etc., has come into existence exactly as an individual human being, indistinguishable from any other human being..."
--Kierkegaarde
Thoughts?
"I reject all forms of authority, except for the messageboard. Hallowed be the messageboard!"
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I've stated this many times over them months I've been here, and I have to repeat it...
Humanity is stuck, and we will never progress beyond our current situationuntil more and more people realize what God and religion really are, bullshit. But more than that, they are one of many means of control that authorities have, and have had, over us for the past 2,000 years. An authority figure can make a certain number of people do anything based on religious obligation.
I'm sorry siSTAR, but agreeing to disagree is not the way out of this conundrum. And you can't change the setting by calling it "spirituality" rather than "religion". Yes, I'm am a militant atheist who is out to put an end to ignorance, thoughtlessness, irrationality, and superstition. The first two things that must leave people's brains for good are 1) God does NOT exist and 2) There is NO life after death. We must start with those two and worl our way up from there.
Also, to say things that your God is different than other people's is a little strange. You either believe in God or you don't. If you are a Christian, you believe in the Christian God. If you're muslim, you believe in Allah, etc. etc. You can't pick and choose what concepts you like to believe in and what others you think should be thrown out. That says to me that there are indeed some parts of religion which you think are unreasonable, but you're afraid to go all the way. There's nothing to be afraid of, unless you're scared of true freedom of thought. In many ways, you and people who think like you are even more unreasonable than fundamentalists, because at least they believe in the whole shabang, without picking and choosing which elements they do and do not like.
But unfortunately, I'm aware that the end of religion won't happen in the next few years, probably not even in my lifetime. In fact, I'm seeing the opposite. Where 20 years ago it was normal for Chruch matters and State matters to be completely separate, today the line is blurred. "One nation under God" is not in the original Pledge of Allegiance, it was added in about 50 years ago.
Nonetheless, religion must and will disappear, at least I truly hope so, or the world and all its peoples will decay into barbarism once again.
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Originally Posted by siSTARindigo
I don't think you read this whole thing. And my comments weren't ignorant, because although you may have facts, we don't (by me I mean the general public), about other life anyways.
But again, In the post you quoted, I was basically saying that the persons opinion I was responding to was ignorant due to the stead fastedness of his uneducated opinion that it was possible but unlikely that other life existed. I am not stead fast in anything, and am always open to education from those educated about a subject, such as yourself. That is the opposite of ignorance.
I don't appreciate being called ignorant when you obviously haven't read all of my posts in this. Which there are about 20 of them.
Eva
Well, I haven't read all your posts, but I really don't see what the problem with calling you ignorant is. Ignorant means you're lacking in education or knowledge. I believe you said yourself that you ARE lacking in education and knowledge, sooooo where's the problem? The word ignorant implies nothing about how open you are to education or your intentions, only how much education you currently have on a given subject (In this case, Astrobiology).
If you prefer I can sugar coat it and call you "informationally-challenged".
If it makes you feel any better, I first decided to study Astrobiology while I was stoned watching the Sci Fi channel.
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I copied the below from this link :http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...ry&va=ignorant if anybody really cares.
But that is fine if you want to consider us (as in the general public like I stated before) ignorant because of the fact we, for the most part have no knowlege of this subject. But don't put me in that catagory by myself. There wouldn't have been a show about it if it was common knowlege. I am sure you are also ignorant, in one matter or another.
Definition #2 states what I was in fact discussin. People acting ig·no·rant·ly
saying all these TRUTHS with nothing to back it up. My only objective was for people to be open minded and be able to admit things outside THEIR own ideas are possible.
And don't worry about making me feel better hun, cause I don't feel bad. My life is amazing right now, and this? you? he he he..........
Eva
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : UNAWARE, UNINFORMED
- ig·no·rant·ly adverb
- ig·no·rant·ness noun
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
I'm sorry siSTAR, but agreeing to disagree is not the way out of this conundrum.
Call this "conundrum" what you want. Unlike you I haven't made it my mission in life to tell everyone they are wrong.
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
And you can't change the setting by calling it "spirituality" rather than "religion". Yes, I'm am a militant atheist who is out to put an end to ignorance, thoughtlessness, irrationality, and superstition.
You are neither spiritual OR religious, so wouldn't you be speaking ig·no·rant·ly right now? (2 : UNAWARE, UNINFORMED- ig·no·rant·ly adverb- ig·no·rant·ness noun http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...ry&va=ignorant)
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
The first two things that must leave people's brains for good are 1) God does NOT exist and 2) There is NO life after death. We must start with those two and worl our way up from there.
You have figured it out, after all these years, and all these SCIENTISTS. You know what we need to do to save ourselves. Wowo, I really must ask you this then, would you like a biscut?
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
Also, to say things that your God is different than other people's is a little strange. You either believe in God or you don't. If you are a Christian, you believe in the Christian God. If you're muslim, you believe in Allah, etc. etc. You can't pick and choose what concepts you like to believe in and what others you think should be thrown out.
What if you are none of them? And why can't I pick and choose what resonates with me? Each religion did so, starting their specific religion. You need to quite trying to be the spiritual cop, and leave people be. Who are you to tell me what I can and can't believe?
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
That says to me that there are indeed some parts of religion which you think are unreasonable, but you're afraid to go all the way.
Yup, religion is crap, I think I said that. Just because I can't answer everyones questions doesn't mean I have any. It just means that I don't want step on other peoples toes when it comes to their god. I wouldn't want to be like you, I prefer to live and let live. Discussing something is fine, but who are you to come in here and TELL people things.
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
But unfortunately, I'm aware that the end of religion won't happen in the next few years, probably not even in my lifetime. In fact, I'm seeing the opposite.
That is because religion is turning into spirituality. People are starting to realize that most of the beliefs are the same just worded differently. Get used to it :) It is going to get a lot better for me!! And you, will be on a futile mission.
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
Nonetheless, religion must and will disappear, at least I truly hope so, or the world and all its peoples will decay into barbarism once again.
Once again, you know excatly what needs to be done. WOW! That must be a good feeling! Right on. Usually people do find their happiness in god. But you might just BE god!
Eva
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the bible has been re-written for thousands of years for the purposes of controlling humans so i believe none of it is acctually real..the true bible is hidden in metaphores. Saying God is jesus and jesus is god is true..but wait oneironot is god and god is oneironot (thread creater's name) everyone is god and god is everyone..jesus just didnt have somthing everybody else had..exactly what i cannot say but it was somthing that blocks humans from seeing the true nature of god...just remember take nothing litteral from the bible that is just ignorant... a book around for 2000 years..hmm
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Flesh, I fail to see how "militant atheism" is in any way a viable solution...
Sure, atrocities are committed in the name of religion. But not all religious people commit atrocities. I've met some amazingly down to earth, creative and compassionate people, who consider themselves very religious. So obviously, the problem isn't religion but rather the same barbarism you were complaining about.
Why blame religion for barbarism? Why not simply blame the brutality?
Personally I feel the whole notion of "militant atheism" strikes a chord amazingly similar to that of any fundamentalist group. An expressed limitation on acceptable beliefs. In fact that's the exact opposite of siStarIndigo's thought of ignoring the differences and simply co-existing.
Because that's the bottom line, isn't it? Co-existence. Does it matter who's "right" and whose "wrong" as long as everyone is respected for their individual humanity?
In the battle for humanity, there are no winners without losers... But it doesn't need to be a contest. We can coexist. A way to live without exploitation. A way to be right in a way that doesn't make other ways wrong.
Just a thought I had...
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Originally Posted by siSTARindigo
But that is fine if you want to consider us (as in the general public like I stated before) ignorant because of the fact we, for the most part have no knowlege of this subject. But don't put me in that catagory by myself. There wouldn't have been a show about it if it was common knowlege. I am sure you are also ignorant, in one matter or another.
Yes, I would like to consider "you" (as in the general public like you stated before) ignorant because of the fact that you, for the most part, have no knowledge of the subject. The reson I would like to do this is because that is, in fact, a completely correct use of the word "ignorant".
If you don't want to be by yourself that's okay. I suppose I could just walk around quizzing people on astrobiology and get you some company, but as of right now the reason you're alone is because you're the only person who has made a statement on this board about astrobiology that showed ignorance (Well, there are probably more, but that was the only one I read). The general public is irrelevant since a majority of them aren't even participating in this thread. Also, I AM ignorant in many subjects, but the reason I didn't bring that up is because it's not relevant. We're not discussing "other subjects" and I haven't made any claims without justification that I'm aware of (at least in this thread) so there's no reason it would need to come up.
The Sci Fi channel show wasn't even about Astrobiology. It was about UFOs and anal probes and shit. The point to that story being, I'm not enlightened or anything. I'm just a stoner with cable TV, a college catalog, and a dictionary (featuring the word "Ignorant") and things just worked out this way.
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Pure, you make a good point. There are a lot of translataions out there. That's why I look to the original text using Greek and Hebrew dictionaries.
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Originally Posted by streettrash
Yes, I would like to consider "you" (as in the general public like you stated before) ignorant because of the fact that you, for the most part, have no knowledge of the subject. The reson I would like to do this is because that is, in fact, a completely correct use of the word "ignorant".
If you don't want to be by yourself that's okay. I suppose I could just walk around quizzing people on astrobiology and get you some company, but as of right now the reason you're alone is because you're the only person who has made a statement on this board about astrobiology that showed ignorance (Well, there are probably more, but that was the only one I read). The general public is irrelevant since a majority of them aren't even participating in this thread.
This thread isn't about astrobiology, and I didn't bring the subject up. Had I done so then yes, I would have been acting ignorantly. The fact that I am ignorant on the subject is a fact for the general population. It isn't that I am lonely, It is just that, well, your comment made no sense whatsoever :)
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Originally Posted by streettrash
Also, I AM ignorant in many subjects, but the reason I didn't bring that up is because it's not relevant. We're not discussing "other subjects" and I haven't made any claims without justification that I'm aware of (at least in this thread) so there's no reason it would need to come up.
Actually we were discussing "Other subjects". Life in outer space just happend to come up. We were actually talking about GOD and existance and and afterlife. But you can go back and read it for yourself, since it is sounding very much like you haven't yet. I think that would be ignorant to be so intrusive on a conversation, not knowing where it started, and outter space wasn't it, son.
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Originally Posted by streettrash
The Sci Fi channel show wasn't even about Astrobiology. It was about UFOs and anal probes and shit. The point to that story being, I'm not enlightened or anything. I'm just a stoner with cable TV, a college catalog, and a dictionary (featuring the word "Ignorant") and things just worked out this way.
OH! see now you made it out to be like you were an expert. So since you have only seen one show, that didn't even center the subject, wouldn't you really be the one acting ignorantly? Since YOU brought it up, not I. The only comment on it I made is the one you have tried to disect.
You don't even understand what you said! LOL This whole thread has turned into humor for me. Some people on here are so open minded, and calm and loving. I have meet some REALLY cool people here. Then we get the militant athiests who has all kinds to say, and then disappears. Or people who call themselves street trash, don't read a now 5 page long thread (and these are LONG pages), watches a mini show on a subject and then goes around correcting people about topics they didn't start. Then calling them ignorant when they ADMIT to not knowing about it. Your right, I am ignorant about the subject, along with everyone else who can't stand biology. And I plan to leave that stuff to those interested in it. This is the first time I have ever talked about it, and I was dragged into the converstaion by someone ignorant of the actual topic being discussed :)
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Originally Posted by Polymirize
Flesh, I fail to see how "militant atheism" is in any way a viable solution...
Sure, atrocities are committed in the name of religion. But not all religious people commit atrocities. I've met some amazingly down to earth, creative and compassionate people, who consider themselves very religious. So obviously, the problem isn't religion but rather the same barbarism you were complaining about.
Why blame religion for barbarism? Why not simply blame the brutality?
Personally I feel the whole notion of "militant atheism" strikes a chord amazingly similar to that of any fundamentalist group. An expressed limitation on acceptable beliefs. In fact that's the exact opposite of siStarIndigo's thought of ignoring the differences and simply co-existing.
Because that's the bottom line, isn't it? Co-existence. Does it matter who's "right" and whose "wrong" as long as everyone is respected for their individual humanity?
In the battle for humanity, there are no winners without losers... But it doesn't need to be a contest. We can coexist. A way to live without exploitation. A way to be right in a way that doesn't make other ways wrong.
Just a thought I had...
What is really funny is that a militant athiest is in a spirituality board.
HA HA HA, this shit is getting funnier by the post!
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you are in error if you believe the Bible to be written in metaphores and only written to control human minds. Perhaps what you're really saying is that it penetrates your heart and you don't want to accept that YOU are responsible for YOUR sin?
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The thing about the original bible is that it was actually a bunch of books. Like actual seperate, whole books, that this group of guys said, let's put these together. I am not discounting these guys by any means, or what they wrote. But these guys took PARTS of these books (the book of John, ect) and some entire books were even left out. Either by these guys or the church, who I am sure then edited what these guys put together. These original books, as in seperate, whole books are probably long gone, which is a shame.
Eva
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Originally Posted by aka215
you are in error if you believe the Bible to be written in metaphores and only written to control human minds. Perhaps what you're really saying is that it penetrates your heart and you don't want to accept that YOU are responsible for YOUR sin?
I agree with you, in different words (the sin part, I call it karma). He is in this message board for a reason, I think it is him with a lot of questions. I can't explain why else an athiest would even come in here. Hopefully he has learned something. Anything.
Eva
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siSTARindigo,
Thanks for keeping it professional and not insulting people. That works great in discussions.
As for the "militant" part, I made that up cause I thought it was funny, forget it.
And I'm in the spirituality forum because it affects me, religion affects everyone whether they like it or not.
And people, all of you, sure,for now, let's live and let live, we'll be a big happy family, each with our own beliefs. But don't you realize what happening in the world? Fundamentalism is on an exponential rise in popularity, both in America and in the Middle-East. These are people willing to kill over the name of a god. And their leaders wouldn't want it any other way.
Look at Bush, Mr. Born-Again. He's using his religion as a form of control. So is Bin Laden, re-interpreting the Qur'an as he wishes to control people. That's what religion (at least, the Big Three) is for, population control.
And siSTAR, yes, it's a big deal if you just pick and choose what you want to believe in while rejecting stuff you don't like. It just doesn't make sense. You feel better about yourself because you believe in a god? Are you less afraid to live on your daily life knowing that there's a nice old man waiting to give you a big hug after you die?
Fact is, people the world over have been picking and choosing what to believe since the dawn of humanity. Three thousand years ago, it was Egyptian religion... The came the Greeks and the Romans, with something else. Today, their religious stories are considered "mythology", a nice little fairy tale with some life-lessons. Now who decided we should all stop believing that and start believing in a completely different fairy-tale? Jesus Christ? He didn't even exist... And his religion is a re-hash of ancient Egyptian religion anyway.
So yeah, like you said, all the major religions pick and choose what they want to believe and leave out the rest, I guess you could do it to. So I believe the world was created last week by a giant Dwarf named Andy, and he just makes us believe that the world is older through telepathy, and when we die we all end up in a land of candy with holy dwarves running among us. Don't mock my beliefs, you ig·no·rant person! It's all here in my book, Andy's world.
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Originally Posted by siSTARindigo
I agree with you, in different words (the sin part, I call it karma). He is in this message board for a reason, I think it is him with a lot of questions. I can't explain why else an athiest would even come in here. Hopefully he has learned something. Anything.
Eva
Wow, I didn't even see this before I replied... So you decide to believe in a Christian-type god, but you don't believe in sin, you believe in Karma. Like I said in another post, at least fundamentalists are consistent.
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
siSTARindigo,
As for the "militant" part, I made that up cause I thought it was funny, forget it.
The only reason I even typed that was because it was funny. I was really commenting on the athiest part.
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
And I'm in the spirituality forum because it affects me, religion affects everyone whether they like it or not.
Why does it affect you if you don't believe in it? It still sounds as if you are very insecure, and unsure.
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
And people, all of you, sure,for now, let's live and let live, we'll be a big happy family, each with our own beliefs. But don't you realize what happening in the world? Fundamentalism is on an exponential rise in popularity, both in America and in the Middle-East. These are people willing to kill over the name of a god. And their leaders wouldn't want it any other way.
Look at Bush, Mr. Born-Again. He's using his religion as a form of control. So is Bin Laden, re-interpreting the Qur'an as he wishes to control people. That's what religion (at least, the Big Three) is for, population control.
This is exactly why I say that I am a spiritual person, instead of a religious person. Because bad people have given a bad name, and taken something that was supposed to be good and turned it into a horrible business. Yes, and use it for control, just like a cult. There is good and bad, positive and negative. Don't allow the bad to outshine the good.
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
And siSTAR, yes, it's a big deal if you just pick and choose what you want to believe in while rejecting stuff you don't like. It just doesn't make sense. You feel better about yourself because you believe in a god? Are you less afraid to live on your daily life knowing that there's a nice old man waiting to give you a big hug after you die?
Actually I don't subscribe to the "sex" of god, much less wether or not there is a beard. Again, you would have known that had you read this whole conversation:rolleyes: And maybe the stuff I don't like is just the crap people have changed and added.
And actually I believe that there are tons of passed family members, animals, friends, angels, guides, ascended masters, there to great you with "love" when your body dies. What exactly do you think it is then that leaves our body when we die? And it has to go somewhere. Something inside us that makes us each unique (personality) leaves, and our body starts to decay. 2 years old, 102 years old. What is "this" energy which can be recorded? And where does it go?
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
Fact is, people the world over have been picking and choosing what to believe since the dawn of humanity. Three thousand years ago, it was Egyptian religion... The came the Greeks and the Romans, with something else. Today, their religious stories are considered "mythology", a nice little fairy tale with some life-lessons. Now who decided we should all stop believing that and start believing in a completely different fairy-tale? Jesus Christ? He didn't even exist... And his religion is a re-hash of ancient Egyptian religion anyway.
So yeah, like you said, all the major religions pick and choose what they want to believe and leave out the rest, I guess you could do it to. So I believe the world was created last week by a giant Dwarf named Andy, and he just makes us believe that the world is older through telepathy, and when we die we all end up in a land of candy with holy dwarves running among us. Don't mock my beliefs, you ig·no·rant person! It's all here in my book, Andy's world.
There really isn't a point to quoting this but it was really funny. You should really write books or something. Your very imaginative, and entertaining. You could be a millionare:thumbsup:
Eva:dance:
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
Wow, I didn't even see this before I replied... So you decide to believe in a Christian-type god, but you don't believe in sin, you believe in Karma. Like I said in another post, at least fundamentalists are consistent.
Google agnostic christian and MAYBE you will begin to have an inclining of a clue.
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Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide
Oh, and I didn't say I didn't believe in sin, I said I believe that you ARE responsible for YOUR own actions just like aka215 said. I just think it comes back to you, you reap what you sow. A sin is just a bad thing to do in general to me. Your just supposed to be good, love everyone no matter what, don't steal, don't hurt people OR animals. Don't lie, ect, ect, ect. or else you get it back. Karma baby ;)
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Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide
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Originally Posted by siSTARindigo
Google agnostic christian and MAYBE you will begin to have an inclining of a clue.
I don't incline to clues, but I do have inklings... But maybe you should read something other than what you can google.
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Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide
you got it buddy. can't get me on a point, get me on spelling error.
LAMO........
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Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
Thanks for keeping it professional and not insulting people. That works great in discussions.
I guess the search for consistency continues then. huh, Flesh?
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Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide
lol aka215..eaither ur mind is filled with falseties (if thats a word..) or you're fucking with me
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Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
Yes, I'm am a militant atheist
I think it is obvious I have at least stumped you :) So I have said the label most fitting for me is an Agnostic Christian, because I do believe in a god. You would just be an agnostic (and militant), meaning you just don't know (and whatever militant means), period. I have found you a bumper sticker and will buy it for you and send it to you if you like, seriously. Just give me an addy :) Check it out :)
http://carryabigsticker.com/images/m...nostic_500.gif
Eva
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Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide
Can you explain your view as an agnostic Christian? I don't want to hammer on you just understand where you're coming from.
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Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide
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Originally Posted by mont974x4
Can you explain your view as an agnostic Christian? I don't want to hammer on you just understand where you're coming from.
Questions are fine, you are in no way hammering :)
I personally don't like labels, and don't subscribe to any particular one. I only mentioned that particular label because of FLESH calling it weird to believe in a christian type god, yet believe in karma. Agnostic christian is basically that. I do believe a lot of their beliefs though, and you can google this. I don't really have the time to get into it. I am married, with a 3 year old, and we are now moving to another state, YIPPEEE! It would take forever on a message board. Besides, I always like people to do their own research on a subject.
Eva