What I realize while high

go hug a tree. bitch.

I'm gonna have to blaze one and come back to this thread and read it over.

The main problem I see in the original post is the assumption that "enlightenment for the masses" is possible. Mental exploration and personal transformation are "edge" experiences that most people are not mentally prepared for. Only a small part of Western culture has moved beyond monotheism while the majority think basically the same thoughts as 17th Century man (god's, devils, souls, etc). While the human population remains barbaric and primitive (people such as George W Bush being the American example), there are small tribes of people that are attemping to move beyond these things. Check out the work of Ken Wilber as an example. I believe that certain individuals CAN advance mentally, but don't expect the world to appreciate, accept, or understand your achievements. Students and gurus will always be suspect, no matter what tools they use...cannabis, meditation, fasting, etc. It's ALL edge experience, and therefore threatening to the political and social establishment.

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Very good. I agree..

Folks up near the top were blurring the line between our "society" and the human race. There IS a difference, there are still people that exist outside of the society we exist in. I don't think that we can make full decisions about what we as a society can handle or not. The use of drugs with spiritual intent may not be accepted by society, but that does not mean it does not exist within our society. Does something being accepted by society mean that the people in power endorse it? In the case of gay marriage, I find that dispite many people within our country being for it, the folks in power disagree, and thats what really matters.
fyi, I'm a bit under the influence of mind altering substances, so i apologize for any fuckups or destinationless thought trains
love, me

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Originally Posted by Guitarhooligan

And also, the implication that the human race could have any lasting effect on the Earth's overall well being is extremely conceited in my opinion. The Earth has been here for over four billion years. That number is very hard to grasp for a human mind. That's about 51,948,052 average lifetimes. We, as a society, have been here for about 5,000 years. That's the blink of an eye to the earth...not even that, actually. To think that we could 'destroy' the Earth, as we so often put it, is ridiculous.

Sure, we can wipe ourselves out, but no lasting damage will be done. The Earth will replenish and revitalize itself, just as it always has.

</George Carlin>

Sorry for the double post, and the rant... :-)

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We are polluting the earth and the natural resources will run out. you are correct when saying that the earth has been around for four billion years. but it has never had a civilization taht is advanced enough and dumb enough to pollute and kill it. not until recently.

every word u said i agree with

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Originally Posted by mojoke

go hug a tree. bitch.

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hahahha I literally laughed out loud when I read that...the period between tree. and bitch. really makes that