does any body know how quick certo works
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Originally Posted by MattinSLC
I at least have my "at home test" results proving your theroy wrong.
Like I said, anecdotes are not proof.
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Why should I try to prove my theORY, you are the one refuteing it
Because you are the one who brought this following claim to the table, completely devoid of legitimate sources to support it.
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if you drink the pectin, your body would rather burn that first rather than your fat. So it kinda puts your fats cells "on storage" for a few hours because your body has something else in it that it would rather burn.
Like I said, the burden is on you to provide the proof to this claim, since you brought it to the table. And until you do provide the proof, youre just merely basing your UA success on a fallacy of causation. Youre merely assuming that Pectin was responsible for passing your test. Just because B happened does not mean A caused it.
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it sounds like you are intolerable of anyone else's theories or own individual experiences
Call it what you will. As I said already, we like to keep things factual around here. Non-facts can land an uninformed reader (who would take your assumptions and anecdotes as 'fact') in jail or the unemployment line. If you dont like the idea that we hold the poster to such a high standard of fact well then sorry, thats how it is and shall remain. And if that idea is not your cup of tea, then perhaps this forum is not for you. The drug testing forum is not a playground. Not when careers and freedoms are at stake here.
does any body know how quick certo works
Read my sig... 'multiple pieces of anecdotal evidence do not equal scientific fact'.
We have a rule here against giving advice that could potentially harm other members.
Be VERY sure of your advice's accuracy before hitting that submit button. Would you mind finding a link to the study that shows pectin as a preferential energy source for your body?
Thanks.
does any body know how quick certo works
Well there's an easy way to find out if pectin works. We need to find 10 people with UA's coming up and have them try it. Any risk takers out there?lol
does any body know how quick certo works
the only question I have is if your on probation, or in a position where your know your gonna tested, then *WHY* are you smoking in the first place??
You know your gonna get caught, its just gonna be a matter of *WHEN*[not if], then your will have to suffer the consequences......and its gonna be your own damn fault.
Is getting stoned 1 time really worth 5 years of your life??
The only way to pass a UA is to be clean from not smoking.
does any body know how quick certo works
Matt, you haven't proven anyone wrong and you definitely haven't proven yourself right. Try doing a little research like I have done. Read the following thread before you come in here insulting people.
http://boards.cannabis.com/drug-test...-evrytime.html
So read my post in that thread then go read the forum rules available in the lounge and feedback sections.
does any body know how quick certo works
All I can really say as far as Certo goes is that there seems to be some property of it that blocks the detection of THC. I have tried many things to falsely pass a drug screen. First off the type of test the lab uses can make a difference. There a few different types of tests that are used for urine tests and some are more sensitive than others so depending on the test used depends if one or more of these remedies are going to work or not. From what I gather niacin does work somewhat to lower the levels of THC in your body because it speeds up the half life of the THC break down in your body because it burns fat. To the people who say that Certo works because the way the individual is taking it and how drinking so much liquid it justs dilutes the sample I think is incorrect. I have tried the crap load of water and or a combonation cranyberry juice, or apple juice and even shots of vinigar and tested positive or inconclusive (diluted sample) for THC on a screen. The first time I used Certo I mixed it with water in a 1 liter bottle. It was so foul I nearly vomitted and could not keep it down. Then I tried mixing it with grape powerade this was a 32 ox bottle. I drank a couple of big gulps and added the 2 packets and drank the bottle about half way down and refilled it with water. I drank it down half way again and refilled with water and drank it all. I went to the bathroom two times and went to my drug screen. I started to urinate in the toilet and at mid stream I started to fill the cup. I passed the test. I know for a fact my urine was dirty before the test I had used a home test just a few hours prior to doing this. I do this when ever I have a drug screen but only if I can not find someone with clean urine to provide me with a sample. The best way to pass a drug screen (obviously would be to not have dirty urine in your own system) is to have someone provide you with a clean sample earlier that day or the night before. I use an elmers glue bottle that has been cleaned out really well and you need to cut the plastic stuff out of it so the hole is big enough to pour the sample in. Have a thermometer ready and a microwave available. Heat the bottle in 5 second intervals and take its temerature. Once its at 105 deg f you can wrap it against your leg inner thigh with an ace bandage or a leg brace. I know it takes me about 15-25 minutes to get to the place and it cools down to high 90's deg by the time I get there. I notice that when I provided a real sample that the thermometer on the sample cup is never in the 90's like body temp its usually 85-88 degrees. Just pour your clean sample in and it should be around that same temp. I have passed everytime I have done this. I hope this helps people who reads this. :thumbsup:
does any body know how quick certo works
First of all, you may want to spell pectin correctly. Pectin. Pectin Pectin. If you can't spell it right chances are you aren't going to be able to explain anything about it right.
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Originally Posted by jayley77
All I can really say as far as Certo goes is that there seems to be some property of it that blocks the detection of THC.
Got any proof?
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Originally Posted by jayley77
From what I gather niacin does work somewhat to lower the levels of THC in your body because it speeds up the half life of the THC break down in your body because it burns fat.
Got any proof?
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To the people who say that Certo works because the way the individual is taking it and how drinking so much liquid it justs dilutes the sample I think is incorrect.
This coming from the person who can't spell pectin right.
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Originally Posted by jayley77
I have tried the crap load of water and or a combonation cranyberry juice, or apple juice and even shots of vinigar and tested positive or inconclusive (diluted sample) for THC on a screen.
Vinegar does nothing.
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Originally Posted by jayley77
The first time I used Certo I mixed it with water in a 1 liter bottle. It was so foul I nearly vomitted and could not keep it down. Then I tried mixing it with grape powerade this was a 32 ox bottle. I drank a couple of big gulps and added the 2 packets and drank the bottle about half way down and refilled it with water. I drank it down half way again and refilled with water and drank it all. I went to the bathroom two times and went to my drug screen. I started to urinate in the toilet and at mid stream I started to fill the cup. I passed the test. I know for a fact my urine was dirty before the test I had used a home test just a few hours prior to doing this.
You don't think any of that fluid had anything to do with it?
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Originally Posted by jayley77
I notice that when I provided a real sample that the thermometer on the sample cup is never in the 90's like body temp its usually 85-88 degrees. Just pour your clean sample in and it should be around that same temp. I have passed everytime I have done this. I hope this helps people who reads this. :thumbsup:
Body temp is 98.6 and yes the cup can lower the temp of the sample a little but if you give them a sample at 85-88 degrees, you will be required to give another sample within 3 hours without leaving under observation. Most tests require a temp of 90-100. Unbelievable.
Where did you come up with this crap? If people follow your advice chances are they are not going to pass their drug test.
does any body know how quick certo works
Like I said previously, we like to keep things factual in the drug testing forum. Non-facts and other unsubstantiated info can land an uninformed reader (that would assume what youre trying to pass off as 'fact') in the unemployment line, or worse, jail. Drug testing is a serious issue. If you dont like the idea that we hold the reader to a high standard of fact, well thats how things are here and shall remain. And if this idea is not your cup of tea, then perhaps this forum is not for you. The drug testing forum is not a playground. Not when folks have too much on the line.
does any body know how quick certo works
FBR I am sorry I spelt pectin wrong sometimes I mix up ā??aā??sā? and ā??Iā??sā? on the keyboard when I type for some reason I mix up ā??tā??sā? and ā??mā??sā? and a few other letter combinations as well. In my haste which I apologize for, I did not spell check. You really didnā??t have to belittle me for that. You are correct I donā??t have any proof to any of the claims I have made I can only say is that in regards to Certo is that I have failed when just diluting and I pass when using the Certo in combination with diluting. I donā??t have any proof but I can only testify that I have passed every urine screening I have undergone when using Certo. I have just tried dilution methods without Certo and the results come back positive for THC or I am required to resubmit a sample from an ā??inclusiveā? result due to a diluted sample. In each case that I have used Certo I consume considerably less amounts of fluid (which is still enough to be considered dilution) and end up with a passing result. I donā??t know why but I fail without Certo and pass with it. As far as urine sample temperature is concerned whenever I have urinated into a plastic cup and insert a digital thermometer after the highest reading I have had was 95.8 degrees. The most I have ever seen the temperature bar rise to on the sample cup at a lab is in the mid to high 80ā??s. As soon as urine leaves the body and travels through the air which is room temperature usually around 75-78 degrees and in air conditioned labs I have been in around 74 degrees that urine is going to immediately cool off by at least 2-3 degrees. Then the plastic sample cup insulates the sample and the reading on the plastic thermometer will usually be anywhere from 85-88 degrees, 88 degrees is the highest I have ever seen the bar rise to when I have submitted a urine sample. My point is that the plastic strip has never recorded a temp for me over 88 degrees and I have never been asked to provide another sample because if it. All I was trying to do was share my personal experience of what I have had work for me and what has failed for me. FBR I am sorry if I offended or upset you that wasnā??t my intent.
does any body know how quick certo works
I'm not belitting you nor am I upset. I'm shocked at how bad the info is and just letting other people know how bad your advice is. I'm sre it's not your intent to cause people to fail but none the less, if people follow your information, chances are they will fail whether you intended that or not.
Who was giving you these tests?
On most chain of custody forms, there is a box that says something to the effect "read the sample within 4 minutes and note whether or not it is 90-100 degrees."
Do you have any biology and or physics education or training? If so do you know what specific heat is? It is amount of energy needed to increase a substance or material a unit of whatever temperature measure you are using. Water has an extremely high specific heat. Air does not and especially the small mass of air your urine stream will be displacing. Do you know anything about cars? Do you know why straight antifreeze is not used in cars when it has a higher boiling point and freezing point than water? Because it has a poor heat capacity. If you filled your car with straight antifreeze and not a mix of anitfreeze and water, it will overheat. Plastic doesn't have nearly the heat capacity of water either much less the fact that the cup weighs a mere fraction what 2 ounces of urine weighs. I don't know who is testing you that is allowing 88 to pass but according to drug testing guidelines it should be between 90-100 for most tests.
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Originally Posted by jayley77
I donā??t know why but I fail without Certo and pass with it.
My point exactly. If you don't know why then why make something up or guess or whatever you did when you decided to post that certo has a property to block the detection of THC?
Like Burnt Toast said, this is not the forum to guess and play around in because people's lives, jobs, freedom, children are at stake and that is why my posts to you may seem harsh.
You should read what I wrote about certo above and then this thread:
http://boards.cannabis.com/drug-test...ml#post1487758
