Any shooters in here?

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Originally Posted by digweed

can anyone tell me what it is with Americans and guns?

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Its insanity, even on a peaceful pot chat they feel the need to talk up their weapons (not tools weapons).
Nothing good from americans ownership of guns. Even your vice president cant handle one safely, there is no such thing as safe gun ownership. Its like saying you can posess plutonium safely.
Access to guns is why your nations murder rate is so high. And ive heard all your excuses about gun states being safer yadda yadda. You still have an insane murder rate in america, and its because of guns.
There is something wrong with the brains people who collect guns, or who carry one for protection.

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Originally Posted by Cooler Then Jesus

yep, Sig sauer pistols fucking rock. i love them. rock solid. but, till the day i die i will dream of a .45acp 1911 Ithaca. or a kimber =)

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lol i own a kimber.
this one
http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols.../stainless.php
only with pachmyrs on it instead of that gay grip

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Originally Posted by canucktoker

Its insanity, even on a peaceful pot chat they feel the need to talk up their weapons (not tools weapons).
Nothing good from americans ownership of guns. Even your vice president cant handle one safely, there is no such thing as safe gun ownership. Its like saying you can posess plutonium safely.
Access to guns is why your nations murder rate is so high. And ive heard all your excuses about gun states being safer yadda yadda. You still have an insane murder rate in america, and its because of guns.
There is something wrong with the brains people who collect guns, or who carry one for protection.

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ok buddy
ummm
im not even gonna glorify that shit by flaming you.
i own you.
we own.
yes we do.
yuh huh.
i have guns.
im not fucked up.
yer fuckin cops ride around on horses
wtf

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Originally Posted by da haze meister

heres the only pictures of my guns i have on hand right now
its a 9mm SigPro SP 2009 by SigArms
and a 9mm USP Compact by Heckler and Koch Gmbh.
i also have an assortment of other ones including
mossberg 500 persuader pistol grip pump
vietnam era m14 with synthetic stock
romainian AKM with 90 round drum mag and a bunch of 30 rd.
a couple m1911 series .45's

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Those are nice, sell me a .45 for $100 LOL

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Originally Posted by orangeman

Those are nice, sell me a .45 for $100 LOL

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stop askin me david
or ill post the pic of u with the 38

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Originally Posted by da haze meister

ok buddy
ummm
im not even gonna glorify that shit by flaming you.
i own you.
we own.
yes we do.
yuh huh.
i have guns.
im not fucked up.
yer fuckin cops ride around on horses
wtf

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Did your bad public schools not equip you with skills to debate? Did you think i am black? Because no one "owns" me, you are the one living under a facist dictator

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Originally Posted by canucktoker

Did your bad public schools not equip you with skills to debate? Did you think i am black? Because no one "owns" me, you are the one living under a facist dictator

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i was joking dude...
calm down.
you're a fuckin racist, man.

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Originally Posted by canucktoker

Its insanity, even on a peaceful pot chat they feel the need to talk up their weapons (not tools weapons).
Nothing good from americans ownership of guns. Even your vice president cant handle one safely, there is no such thing as safe gun ownership. Its like saying you can posess plutonium safely.
Access to guns is why your nations murder rate is so high. And ive heard all your excuses about gun states being safer yadda yadda. You still have an insane murder rate in america, and its because of guns.
There is something wrong with the brains people who collect guns, or who carry one for protection.

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Well, for one, this was meant to be a mature discussion about the responsible use of firearms. OK, I'll let you slide with "there is no such thing as safe gun ownership" as accidents can and do happen. However, there is also a responsibility involved and that is a whole separate factor.

How do you logically think we should eliminate the 'gun problem' of America. Why not go in and just sieze every weapon? Highly illegal. Fact is, even if the government said right now, guns are banned, you would never cease the flow of weapons. Those that have them will not neccessarily give them up and those without will begin to fear those with, and possibly get them themselves.

I'm not making a judgement that civilian ownership of firearms is right or wrong. But while I have the right to possess them and those that shouldn't can also acquire them, I will protect myself and my family.

Aside from this, firearms are machinery. They are crafted to perform a function and each model varies in its details. I can take a Van Gogh and smash you over the head with it, does that take away from the artistry? Should we now ban all picture frames because a person makes a decision to use it in a way that it wasn't intended?

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Originally Posted by canucktoker

you are the one living under a facist dictator

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Yes, we do live under a fascist dictator. All the more reason to own guns.
It is because Americans owned guns that we were able to gain our independence. Far more people are killed each day with more common things such as cars than with guns. I guess outlawing cars would be the smart thing to do then, right? Of course not, teaching responsible ownership of cars and the safe handling of them is by far a smarter thing to do. In America there is a gun registration program in most states and criminal background checks in all before you can purchase a firearm. The number of crimes committed by people with legally registered handguns---- 0....that's Zero. Point is, people who commit crimes with guns gained them through illegal channels and would gain such weapons even if they were made illegal. Just take a look at Washington DC for an example, handgun ownership is not legal there and it has one of the highest rates of handgun violence in the US. Making guns illegal will not solve the worldâ??s problems....or even make a positive difference. The only thing it will do is take the ability away from good people to defend themselves in an effective way.
I am OK with you not owning a gun, or even liking guns. But please don't try and take rights away from me just because you feel this way. If you did you would be no better than the DEA. They feel MJ is bad and contributes to the death and ruined lives of many people, so they fight to keep it illegal and imprison those who feel different.

Hurting others is about a choice not a weapon.
You choose to do it and would do it even if guns did not exist.... Just look at the Roman Empire...They didn't have guns and killed many thousands.
Stop blaming a piece of steel and start holding people accountable for their actions.
Is alcohol to blame when someone drives drunk and kills a mother and her babies? No. The person driving the car is. Should we outlaw all Alcohol? Or should we increase the penalties for such a crime and enforce it?

We should all have our free agency to choose right from wrong. And we do. Laws are like door locks, there to keep honest men honest and would in no way stop people from committing horrible crimes.

I really don't understand how someone who thinks that the government has no right to tell them what they can or can not do with themselves in regards to consumption of drugs or other things can say that the government has the right to imprison those who have done nothing more than own a weapon. Which is what would happen if they were made illegal.
I may or may not own guns but if I did it would be so I could protect my family and self from anyone who would like to hurt them or me. Is that wrong? No.

Abyss

well said abyss.
why is it that whenever there is a thread about guns
someone has to come turn it into a debate?