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Sorry but I have no advice for this, I used to try to help out non-users but most non-users who claim to hate drugs never will like them, they are too damn brain washed by gay groups like D.A.R.E. and other anti-drug groups. I tried to open up so many peoples eyes and they warn me off in digust. I just fuckin' hate non-users who dont even try to open up to what I try to school them on so....no I have no advice for you to give to your friend lol.
I'm definetely not gonna trick him into using a substance... that's not very cool in my opinion. Orangeman, i know where you're coming from. I have had so many ppl tell me that i'm wasting my life and i'm not going to amount to anything. That probably ticks me off more then anything i've heard! I go to a hick school where i am about 1 in 6 kids out of a thousand that owns a tie-dye. Everyone drives trucks, hunts, fishes, and drinks budweiser... it's so shitty. I'm used to being called a stoner, even though i smoke like 2-3 a month, so it doesn't bother me because i know better then them. Their idea of becoming something in the world is working your entire life, retiring at age 60, having a wife and a few kids, and going on vacation every couple of years. I've already traveled a lot of North America, i'm going to college, and i plan on moving around the world and possibly doing some peace corps type work, but too them that's a waste of life because i'm not going to have tons of money. Sorry, that was a rant.
Well either way i'm not going to trick him into taking drugs, i don't agree with that, but i do think i'm going to mention some of the above books and videos. I think he's so sick of hearing it from me, if he can hear it from tons of other sources he'lll realize how many other people out there know the truth and agree. It's kinda sad how brainwashed the U.S. is :(
well dont force your opinion on anyone in the first place, that is wrong. It is also what our everloving gov does to us about pot, n most of us dont like it ^^, at least i dont. All you can do is tell him what you know, your experiences, and what you have gained from your experiences, if he doesnt wanna do it/ still thinks its bad, thats him, o well, roll on.
.PEACE.
I agree KingPhilie, i'm not trying to get him to do drugs or anything though, he just constantly talks about how it's going to ruin my life because he's so brainwashed by the everyday drug stories you hear. I'm trying to make him realize that's bullshit, yea some ppl do get messed up, but you have to know what you're doing.
Well then I would suggest finding some actual statistics on psychedelics, since those DO prove your point that the people whose lives get ruined from them are only a small minority. The amount of people who have breakdowns from LSD, for example, is much smaller than anti-drug propaganda would have you think, and is mainly the people who have prior symptoms of mental illness--the people who should NOT be taking it anyway. Point out that most bad trips are merely a result of irresponsible drug use, bad set and setting... and that the MAJORITY of psychedelics users (who you don't hear about because they know what they're doing and don't get hurt) are more likely to have positive life changing experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarz
And Dion, yeah of course a lot of what I said comes straight out of Buddhism so you're not mislabeling me. I don't "identify" with it but the practice has had the greatest influence on my life in the past few years.
Which reminds me, if your friend is sick of hearing about drugs then maybe it's better to just have meaningful conversations about life, which is more important anyway. Talk about your views and your appreciation of life which you can later mention have had to do with your positive experiences with psychedelics.
Check out erowid.org if you wanna look for statistics. Or just go on the basis of personal experience, most burnouts I'VE ever met are like that because of other drugs, definitely not psychedelics.
If he didn't listen when you first talked to him he's most likely nbot going to listen to you now or read those books, but hey it's worth a shot right? If you educate him then we have another vote for the illegalization of marijuana (but that's probably not going to hapeen for a decade or two)
People in general (as you know) aren't very receptive to any kind of drug abuse. So as stated before, I would recommend telling about your experiences with psychadelics and how they have changed you, instead of telling him that "they aren't bad for you", because he won't ever buy it.
And above, "illegalization of marijuana"? lol, Legalization, I hope
when your on drugs like hallucinogens, why wouldnt you learn new stuff and gain more knowledge?? i mean when your on drugs you think different, your in a whole new mindset, you think different, everything is in focus and you see things in a whole new light, you do different things and explore your mind, how can you not learn anything, even if it is your own existance you learn more about,
just tell your little friend to fucking try a drug so he can see for himself!
anyway how the fuck would he know anything if he hasnt even tried drugs before...so how can he possibly prove you wrong?!?!?!?!?!?!
I agree but...Quote:
Originally Posted by StOneD.aS.FuK
Problem is, people ALWAYS argue that by not trying drugs, their objectivity isn't compromised, whereas you, the drug user, are the one who's biased after trying them because you've been brainwashed by the hallucinations (that you have no way of knowing whether they're real or not).
People just don't understand that isn't the way it really works: it is only by trying both and weighing both lifestyles that you get an idea of what drugs really are. I know that attitude sounds weird to us, but people really do think that way, I know I used to when I was in high school at least until I tried pot :D
Tell your friend that you heard from a 3.9 GPA honors student in college, a philosophy major... and I owe a lot of my creativity and intelligence to psychedelics and cannabis, which do NOT interfere with my work during the day, but at night and on weekends they help me work through the ideas that I would have trouble with otherwise, and strengthen my wholehearted commitment to truth and wisdom. And it can't be all in my head, since my philosophy professors certainly confirm that I know what I'm saying, what with getting A+'s on my last three papers.:dance:
I think I would write him/her off as a lossed cause and go on w/my life. Oh, and stay way they hell away from him before he decides he wants to be LEO and starts w/you.:dance: <---that's RUN
P.S. My wife makes a good point w/the trying of drugs. We do not use 80% or more of our brain? She/we think that drugs open up other parts of yopur mind that are not being used by people who have never tried anydrugs.:p
But for a person to say they have NEVER taken a drug? That's straight BS. It is just what they classify as drugs and not. Caffine is a DRUG. Nicotine is a drug! FOOD is a drug too some. No food is a drug too some....and on and on............:thumbsup: :p