Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide

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Originally Posted by siSTARindigo

I didnn't read all of this, as the first post was so weird, I am sure someone has already said everything I would have said. But there is one thing I have to say. Jesus may not have existed??? Are you fucking kidding??

Now on the bible thumping scale I am about as far in the negative that you can get. But jesus, my friend, was real. I won't get into how I know this, or you'll just think I am crazy. He was a human, a plan old no walkin' on water human. But he exsited, and he healed people, mirraculously. He wasn't the only one who did these special things,was buddah made up too, and all 20 or however many dali lahmas, people do these things today. And I am not talking about people in crowds "PRAYING TO THE LORD TO TAKE AWAY THIS 10 YEAR OLDS BLINDNESS". I am talking quiet, spiritual people trainning in different healing modalities.

I am done. I don't know what else to say. I started this thread sober, and smoked one while I worte it. But damn! I am an indigo, and for those who know what that is, know that it was imposible to keep my mouth shut.

Eva

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I read this, siSTARindigo, and felt ashamed that I didn't stop halfway through and smoke a bowl :thumbsup: !

By the way, sober or high, your 'N' key sticks, on your keyboard.

You know, although Sam Harris is a militant atheist, he finds fundamentalists to be ultimately more logical than mainstream christians, and he makes a good point. Regular Christians are of the sort that say "I like to believe there is a God because it makes more sense that way" or something like that. They choose to believe whatever seems more convenient to them and choose to ignore the rest, because it's not quite palatable. At least fundamentalists have the conviction of their beliefs, and believe the whole goddamn thing.

Moderates, you have to choose what side you're on. Either you believe, or you don't, but you can't pick and choose what you like to believe because some things sound nice, while other things don't sound so good... And that's the hypocrisy Oneironaut is pointing out. Rock on, brother! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

How so? Didn't God already know what it would be like to be a human? Or did God not know everything?

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yes, god did KNOW what it was like to be human, just like a insectologist "knows" what it's like to be a bug.

god had never EXPERIANCED being a human untill he was christ. the experiance is FAR different than simply knowing, come on, you should know that.


sure, you can KNOW what meditation is, but EXPERIANCING it changes everything.

sorry about the 'n' key, but it isn't the only one that sticks. I spilled an energy drink on my keyboard. still works though, sort of :)

I don't even know what to say... "I'm sick of hearing your anti-christian bullshit"?

Ok, it clearly states in the Bible that thou shalt do all the heinous shit that was listed in the first post. That we can all agree on... it's a fact. But now people are saying that maybe Jesus was only following commands from the father (or something to that effect) and that maybe he didn't agree with the murder and such but had to forfill the fathers wishes anyway. Ok, so God then is responsible... now if this is the case, I don't understand how people can worship this dude who contradicts himself all the time in his great big book and likes to kill innocent children. But then there are some who say maybe thread starter shouldn't take the text so literally... but why does everyone else? What if God is just a figurative term for something else? God... it jusr doesn't make any sense!

er once again...


god said that, then when he came down to earth, he saw that he was wrong, and, as jesus, he gave us proof that he did not agree with himself any more, since jesus no longer agreed with god, and if jesus IS god...


well... god had obviously contradicted himself, and when he tried to make up for it, by coming down to earth as christ, he fucked it up, and THIS, this very moment, is the result. yeah, i'd say he fucked up, and we need to try and once again grasp his intentions... rather than being so retardedly absorbed by his contradictions and hyppocrisy.

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I think people who give Bibles to children are the real assholes. I mean, this is a book that encourages child murder, genocide, racism, slavery, sexism, homophobia, and other destructive qualities. We really need to recognize this book for the mythological hate literature it is. If that makes me an asshole, then fine, I guess I'm an asshole.

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I really think you just like being an asshole.

My parents gave me a copy of Hop on Pop by Dr Suess when I was a child, but that didn't mean I read it literally.

Why do you Always assume literal interpretation? Can't you ease up on the nice, chill christians who just think that there was some spiritually proficient individual during a time period roughly in line with 30CE (AD if you prefer, but you probably won't) who had some good shit to say in terms of how people should treat other people?

I think you need to understand the role myths play in any society, being both a positive and sometimes negative force. But always there. I think it's the people who interpret literally that cause a lot of the problems (personal view). So why would you want to do the same thing?

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Christianity breeds hatred, war, intolerance, depreciation of earthly life, and anti-scientific attitudes. I think that is good reason to attempt to falsify it.

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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind Oneironaut... You can't combat intolerance with more intolerance.

For your consideration...

There is a god, I don't care if anyone agrees with me. But jesus was not god anymore than you and I are god, which is to say that he is no better than us. Yet we are all god, being a spark of divine light from God our creator.

And being here on earth we do have what is called free will. Yes there is a plan, and that plan involves every single speck on this earth, including earth itself. But we are "here" for a reason. A place with free will, and obsticles that we are to overcome. The purpose is to learn, and grow, and experience. Cause and effect. The future isn't written in stone, it is just an outline.

From what I understand the world is changing drastically, and quickly. This next year is going to be a crazy one (and I am comparing it to 2005). Almost all news will be either really REALLY good, or really REALLY bad. A lot of people are going to die, a lot will be born. Our new kids won't tolerate lies or deceit. The world is going to change, and if your alive at this time then you are very important. These things will become more and more clear to everyone.

God does exist. And so does jesus. Angels, "aliens", crystals, and *herbs* can help you increase your vibration, reincarnation does exist.

I am sure some with think I am crazy. Some won't. I don't care what you believe, so just please ignore mine if they don't fit with yours.

I think everyone needs to dropped everything everyone has told them, and meditate for as long as it takes, just like Buddah did. Go inside and ask your self what YOUR truth is. And then quiet analizing ancient text. You know deep inside where you came from, go inside and ask. everyone needs to quite looking for outside sources to answer questions.

Eva

you must first anaylize yourself before you will be mentally fit to take any other perspectives into consideration.

meditation is deffenitely a key ingrediant in awakening, not reading the bible or listening to preachers, they are only there to help keep you going, reassurance, not guidance!

you can only guide yourself! allowing others to guide you takes away part of the experiance, the most important part! perhaps even the experiance itself!