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What I meant by that Orwell comment is that you guys pay way too much attention to all these conspiracy-theories... Orwell's writing are about the new-world-orders where the gov't sees all and controls all, basically what all these crazy libs talk about nonstop. Anyone that thinks any government would blow up the tallest buildings in its its own country is just plain stupid. Think rationally, why the hell would they do that? Why? There is no really good reason! There are plenty of reason for the TERRORISTS to blow up the WTC, but really, give me a good reason why Bush would do it!
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" Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate systematical plan of reducing us to slavery. "
-- Thomas Jefferson
" If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress. ... Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America. "
--James Madison
" A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, followed always by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. "
-- Alexander Fraser Tytler
wow, and that's exactly what's happening today, deliberately though, not by accident.
" The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. "
-- Thomas Jefferson
what a bunch of conspiracy theorists. governments? tyranny? what? never.
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weapons sales around the world, no bid rebuilding contracts, massive record opium levels coming out of afghanistan, military bases in the middle east, domestic police state, unconstitutional anti-terror laws (when the constitution is all we need), bigger government, more government funding, homeland security (russia and germany had that too)...an excuse to further militarize police and create citizen spies...lots of reasons.
more means motive and opportunity than a bunch of tinpot terrorists controlled by some guy in a cave.
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Originally Posted by Hydrizzle
What I meant by that Orwell comment is that you guys pay way too much attention to all these conspiracy-theories... Orwell's writing are about the new-world-orders where the gov't sees all and controls all, basically what all these crazy libs talk about nonstop. Anyone that thinks any government would blow up the tallest buildings in its its own country is just plain stupid. Think rationally, why the hell would they do that? Why? There is no really good reason! There are plenty of reason for the TERRORISTS to blow up the WTC, but really, give me a good reason why Bush would do it!
About Orwell's writeing, and about them seeing all and hearing all. Comeing this week there is a bill up in the senate to institute national ID cards equipped with an RFID. Do you know what an RFID is? Its a chip that can be attached to anything includeing bullets (who really knows if and how long they have been in use, so there is no way you can tell if or how long they have been doing this in the US).
Furthermore this technology is just about as cutting edge as you can get so there are not very many in the world that understand it. And none of us can be certain what these chips are doing without our knowledge.
If you cant admit that it's a device that makes "Big Brother" possible your a fool.
I dont beleive it was our GOV that allowed them to blow up those buildings. I beleive it was the people in power that control the worlds economy and governments. As a reason to instigate a world government as a pre cursor to a global police state.
Further more I dont think Bush had any control over it, but he did allow it to happen without stopping it.
and terrorist thru-out history have been labeled that by those that are combating them to sway public opion to one side or the other... think about that for a sec...if the press called these groups rebels, or freedom fighters. you wouldnt be afraid. But the title TERRORIST is so offensive and overpowering that it scares ALLOT of people.
Truth of the matter is neither you nor I has ever met a "terrorist" and neither of us knows exactly what they beleive in. We all know that the media is subject to censorship and political influence. And considering thats where the United States learned of Terrorism and what constitutes it, Your view nor mine can be considered truely accurate on this subject.
Peace.
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Lol, it's not like they wil be able to pinpoint you rlocation with a sattelite, the RFID chips are for verification of the ID's authenticity. Stop watching so much X-files, goddammit!
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never seen 1 full episode in my life. i think i've watched about 20 minutes total. i don't watch much tv.
then again, you can't refute information, you make a stupid comment about watching x-files, and that somehow makes you right...
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Originally Posted by Hydrizzle
Lol, it's not like they wil be able to pinpoint you rlocation with a sattelite, the RFID chips are for verification of the ID's authenticity. Stop watching so much X-files, goddammit!
you still have no clue as to what your talking about, this, we can all tell by your inability to effectively rebute anything we say. The standard non beleiver answer is "your paranoid", or"your crazy" or "but none of this has happen yet"
but never any solid rebute to anything I have to say.
Our conversation is has concluded.
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captain conspiracy has arrived!
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There is no way to give a solid rebute to someone who does not lissten to sense. Anytime I say something, you guys post more conspricay theories and random facts that have not been proven, off some random ass website that I have never heard of.
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my favorite conspiracy theory...(you assume conspiracies don't exist and never have when you say that, which only makes you look even more dumb)...is the 19 freedom hating tinpot muslim freedom hating evil terrorist muslims who hate freedom. after all, it's a conspiracy by definition to say they did it, and it's also just a theory, and a very weak one.
