Stop back-door passage of national ID card

[pisshead]

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2005-May-02

Stop back-door passage of national ID card



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Americans have long resisted the creation of a national ID card. So far, the U.S. Senate has resisted it also, but this resistance is about to finally break down now that the House-Senate conference committee has reinserted the Real ID card provision into an appropriations bill they are currently considering. Please use the form below to contact your Senators immediately. Ask them to oppose the Conference Committee version of the Emergency Appropriations Act because it includes the Real ID provision they've rejected in the past.

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Please stand up to the House. Vote No on the Conference Committee version of the Emergency Appropriations Act because it includes the provisions of The Real ID Act.

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[pisshead]

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000243042581/

The Real ID card: the machine readable you

Posted May 7, 2005, 9:32 AM ET by Barb Dybwad
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http://img.engadget.com/common/image...19089719572126 If only it were some dystopian fiction, but the Senate is slated to pass the Real ID Act next week, which specifies that by 2008 all Americans who want to enjoy privileges such as bank accounts and air travel will be issued what will most likely be RFID-enabled ID cards (Homeland Security hasnâ??t completely decided which machine readable technology theyâ??ll use, but theyâ??re leaning heavily towards RFID since the chips are already going to be used in our passports). The card will likely take the place of your driverâ??s license and will store at the very minimum your name, birthdate, sex, ID number, a digital photograph and address, with the possibility of additional data such as a fingerprint or retinal scan. State DMVs will be receiving federal funds to hand over their databases, with the goal of making each stateâ??s data available to all other states. The House passed the measure on Thursday, and both the Senate and President Bush are expected to sign off on the bill next week. But the real question is, who will be the first to ask to have the chip implanted so they donâ??t have to worry about forgetting their wallet?

[Marlboroman]

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000243042581/

The Real ID card: the machine readable you

Posted May 7, 2005, 9:32 AM ET by Barb Dybwad
Related entries: Wireless



http://img.engadget.com/common/image...19089719572126 If only it were some dystopian fiction, but the Senate is slated to pass the Real ID Act next week, which specifies that by 2008 all Americans who want to enjoy privileges such as bank accounts and air travel will be issued what will most likely be RFID-enabled ID cards (Homeland Security hasnâ??t completely decided which machine readable technology theyâ??ll use, but theyâ??re leaning heavily towards RFID since the chips are already going to be used in our passports). The card will likely take the place of your driverâ??s license and will store at the very minimum your name, birthdate, sex, ID number, a digital photograph and address, with the possibility of additional data such as a fingerprint or retinal scan. State DMVs will be receiving federal funds to hand over their databases, with the goal of making each stateâ??s data available to all other states. The House passed the measure on Thursday, and both the Senate and President Bush are expected to sign off on the bill next week. But the real question is, who will be the first to ask to have the chip implanted so they donâ??t have to worry about forgetting their wallet?

Wow this is such a dangerous avenue to go down, I will move out of this country before I accept a national ID equiped with an RFID, Either that or I'll be in the outback as far away as I can be from that shit. And I will not, ever have a chip installed in me or even have one in my possesion.

Not to mention, what will they say about anyone who thinks the same way I do.... one word comes to mind..... Terrorist.

[pisshead]

yeah, come on, the white house was nuked, we have to do this, you must accept the national id card and chip.

they're putting that scenario into our minds with all of these topoff training drills...slowly gearing us up for a major attack, and the acceptance of localized martial law to begin with. you'll hear about it on the news. the military's out helping the police, searching houses for weapons, searching cars and imposing a curfew, taking people to 'rest and relocation centers'...see how helpful it is? it's not that bad. it keeps you safe.

they do the tv signal takeover tests routinely here. i usually catch them at night, but i'll be watching tv around 2am or whenever, and the station will go to that blue screen emergency alert system test...and i'll flip through all the channels and it's the same thing. the feds want tv to be digital because it's going to be your interface for big brother. it'll turn on and give you alerts to which you'll have to respond. or a special ring on your phone, and you'll be fined if you don't answer. this is already going on around the country, even just north of me. i work at a tv station and we had it on our news. totally cut and paste...feel good story. accept it.

the infrastructure is put in place well before the events that trigger their sudden necessity occur, like when we started thumbscanning for drivers' licenses thanks to bill clinton.

this country is in grave danger. we are not a constitutional republic anymore, far from it.

the government will be ready to step in and impose dictatorship to keep us safe from those evil freedom hating muslim terrorists. who stands to gain from the terrorism...who has the mean, motive and opportunity?

[Marlboroman]

California school mandates RFID tags for students
Posted Feb 12, 2005, 2:25 AM ET by Marc Perton
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A small-town school in California has become the latest to mandate that students wear RFID-based ID cards when on campus. According to Brittan Elementary School officials in Sutter, a rural farming community, the tags have been implemented to simplify attendance-taking and reduce vandalism. In addition to tracking students in classrooms, the schoolâ??s principal wants them tracked in bathrooms and locker rooms. Parents and the ACLU have raised privacy and civil-liberties concerns. Some have also questioned the financial relationship between the school and the cardsâ?? manufacturer, which is paying the school to try out the cards and offering it commissions on future sales to other schools. However, the principal, Earnie Graham, has another explanation for student objections. â??You know what it comes down to? I believe junior high students want to be stylish. This is not stylish,â?� he said. Okay, guess theyâ??ll have to switch to implants, then.









Here is another example of the RFID's, they start out as a benefit to everday life. Or atleast thats what they tell you, stateing reasons from ones above to makeing it easier to pay bills and check out of the super market. But what noone has stated is who is in control of your personal Info. Why would you volunteer to give everybit of your personal information to a stranger?

Not to mention that just because they tell you that these chips are doing one job, doesnt mean that they are not doing any other jobs. Truth is the stuff is so new that there are very few people in the world that can actually say what technology is inside the chips and what functions they serve.

How would you like it if the FBI, CIA or any Police force nation wide could listen in on your personal conversations with your wife or kids. You have no idea if these chips are capable of recording conversations or not. For all any of us know these chips could be tuned into key words and start recording when they detect them, and with wireless technology as good as it is who is to say that these chips dont have to ability to then transmit that conversation to a database for investigation.

Or for that matter have the ability to directly transmit the information apon being enabled to do so.

This is so scary.

[pisshead]

yes, and does absolutely nothing to stop 'terrorism.'

[Marlboroman]

Doesnt have to, terrorist threats to the US are well under control and thats a fact.

Any idea how easy it would be to plant something in a NY subway and walk away?

It would be insanely easy to do. and if there really were these massed armies of american hateing muslims ready to die for their cause, we would be fucked.

why only one huge attack in the US? if the threat is so Damned high then why arent we ever attacked past 9/11??

Jesus the fear campaighn has the nation conviced that these terrorists are wondering around the US with bombs strapped to them.

When the truth is if those armies really existed and they were all ready to die for their cause we would be getting hit everyday, just like the gaza strip. Take a look at what real terrorism is about, its about makeing the people scared to leave theirs homes for fear of being killed. It's desighen to take freedoms away from you by your own forfeit.

Liveing in the US I dont fear any Muslims I fear some mentally screwed white kid with a fucking gun.

What?... you dont think we are as vulnerable as the Isralis? you have to be kidding, the Isralis have been fighting "REAL terrorism" for centuries and they cant stop it. Backed by the wealthiest countries in the world, and they cant stop car bombs and suicide bombers.

So what the hell makes anyone think that the US is under attack by terrorists? because your GOV tells you so?
there is no proof that our lives are in any danger from muslim terrorists.

[pisshead]

we're in more danger from the criminals in our own overnment committing crimes, using terrorism and the war on terror and patriotism as an excuse to be more secretive, shift power to the executive, and pass unconstitutional legislation.

i don't even fear the kid with the gun, i fear those on mad power trips using terrorism and fascism and socialism as an excuse to axe the constitution, so a few fat cat elites can profit, while openly talking about world government and giving up sovereignty to a world body, while supposedly supporting a war so iraq can be sovereign (ie, brought into world government, imf/world bank control, an impossible debt which will result in UN peacekeeping. we all know how the UN loves to keep the peace.)

yay democracy! you're not against democracy are you?

the government also can just use the threat of terror, and giving false information on big terrorists they've caught. the guy they announced that they caught a week ago that was the #3 al qaeda, now turns out to be some flotsam and jetsom 'terrorist'....a nobody. you don't hear amsterdam bragging about that anymore...he can always just deny it ever happened, using doublethink. but that still doesn't change the fear and excitement they instilled in people, while not announcing he was a nobody in the end.

this happens constantly. it's propaganda.

there doesn't have to be any real terror, just the never ending threat and reminding of it, unless the dictatorship is meant to take a bigger leap forward.

[Marlboroman]

Also looking at the time line, by 2008 we are supposed to have these cards.

isnt that the year we are supposed to get rid of W?

Scary very scary.

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