Latest MMJ Law Draft

great read.

Having gone over the latest update review of the law draft, I think that the thirty-three pages be reduced to enough paragraphs to cover two pages. All this regulation of containers, control of weights (state stickered scales), yada, yada, yada.

The freaking black market operates on less rules and is less regulated and frankly, is very successful policed only by the community itself, outside of that from LEO. If you sell your stuff short/light, you don't get return customers, if you sell crap, the same. Who the hell needs 33 pages of camouflage to backdoor prohibition? Keep it simple and basic so the average citizen can read it and not have all the questions there are today. That's all this bill does, continue the maze. Or they can insect this! (Y) :twocents:

The rules for the financial bailout of Wall Street, the banksters, and mortgage bandits was written on a single page. :D

Welcome to the world of politics, gotta keep the attorneys busy some how.

Is there gonna be a 3rd, 4th or 5th draft or is this the one we are gonna have to live with?

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Originally Posted by ionmagic

If a proposed new law cannot be understood completely on it's first reading by an average adult, it is not a good law.

This is NOT a good law.
its just more of the same broken system, some tit for tat, and some money changing.
free the plant!
love,
ion

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The plant is free if one grows it themselves or has a compassionate provider whom doesn't charge for reimbursement..the issue here is we have profiteers/lawyers/silent business partners in wa. that have a great deal of influence behind close doors...stop this & the plant ill be free for all in our borders but, not till then.

P.S. nice to see you posting here..;)

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Originally Posted by barbear

Is there gonna be a 3rd, 4th or 5th draft or is this the one we are gonna have to live with?

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No living with this at all, remember our new government is based on change. This will change and may not even be enacted..it may just be chum for your votes.

Here is the 8th draft as presented and discussed at the Cannabis Defense Coalition on the 28th. http://cdc.coop/docs/2011_bill_markup.pdf
The majority of attendees were associated with growers/dispensers and there was overwhelming support for this potential legislation. Everyone I spoke to also had concerns of varying degree. You'll notice the highlighting markup from the peeps at the CDC; Green indicates general agreement, Yellow indicates further discussion/clarification may be needed and Red indicates a point of serious contention. The associated explanation is here; http://cdc.coop/docs/2011_bill_analysis.pdf

I'd like to add a couple of notes to the above discussion:
All Dept. of Ag rules and regulations would be subject to the rule making procedures that many if not most of you witnessed during the DOH "60 day supply" rule making process. Public meetings and stakeholder input (that's you) would precede any rule implementation.


As Law is Law it might be worth mentioning that any any other products meant to be ingested are regulated. For what it's worth, I believe the Senator thought that the Dept. Of Ag inclusion was necessary. Moving a Bill through this, the standard avenue for Legislation will require compromise.


Before a Bill can make it to the floor, it must pass through 2 committees. As it is, I would be shocked to see this piece make it to the Floor. Make the language less restrictive and it's DOA. That is my opinion anyway ... If you want something more simply worded and less restrictive, get started on the initiative pronto. Here's the rules on that: http://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/electi...a%20Manual.pdf

That being said, get behind the *new and next in line "Legalize It" Initiative which will begin gathering signatures early next year... our only hope? Toke of the Town - Washington: New Marijuana Legalization Drive In February

Never a dull moment,
J.Fish

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Originally Posted by JellyFish

Here is the 8th draft as presented and discussed at the Cannabis Defense Coalition on the 28th. http://cdc.coop/docs/2011_bill_markup.pdf
The majority of attendees were associated with growers/dispensers and there was overwhelming support for this potential legislation. Everyone I spoke to also had concerns of varying degree. You'll notice the highlighting markup from the peeps at the CDC; Green indicates general agreement, Yellow indicates further discussion/clarification may be needed and Red indicates a point of serious contention. The associated explanation is here; http://cdc.coop/docs/2011_bill_analysis.pdf

I'd like to add a couple of notes to the above discussion:
All Dept. of Ag rules and regulations would be subject to the rule making procedures that many if not most of you witnessed during the DOH "60 day supply" rule making process. Public meetings and stakeholder input (that's you) would precede any rule implementation.


As Law is Law it might be worth mentioning that any any other products meant to be ingested are regulated. For what it's worth, I believe the Senator thought that the Dept. Of Ag inclusion was necessary. Moving a Bill through this, the standard avenue for Legislation will require compromise.


Before a Bill can make it to the floor, it must pass through 2 committees. As it is, I would be shocked to see this piece make it to the Floor. Make the language less restrictive and it's DOA. That is my opinion anyway ... If you want something more simply worded and less restrictive, get started on the initiative pronto. Here's the rules on that: http://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/electi...a%20Manual.pdf

That being said, get behind the *new and next in line "Legalize It" Initiative which will begin gathering signatures early next year... our only hope? Toke of the Town - Washington: New Marijuana Legalization Drive In February

Never a dull moment,
J.Fish

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Its shaping up that this is the consensus opinion that the only way to get it done is with the initiative. I'm all for it and certainly willing to contribute this time to make sure it gets done. :thumbsup:

The 60 day supply rule was not decided through the open rules process.

The department of health came up with "100 square feet grow space" through the rules process, and the governor, law enforcement and the ACLU came up with the "15 plant limit" in a back room deal.

The only reason we know is that the initial draft was leaked before the gov, Leo and the ACLU gutted it.

Same thing would happen here.

The rule making process does not guarantee that you'll get what you want. Here it is for those who care: ORA | Washington's Rulemaking Process


J.Fish