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    #1
    Senior Member

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    Here is the latest revision. All 33 pages of it. Lot of pages over a little plant!! There is going to be a meeting in Seattle later this month for mmj community input. Most of you will have gotten a notice I imagine.
    gypski Reviewed by gypski on . Latest MMJ Law Draft Here is the latest revision. All 33 pages of it. Lot of pages over a little plant!! There is going to be a meeting in Seattle later this month for mmj community input. Most of you will have gotten a notice I imagine. :D Rating: 5

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    #2
    Senior Member

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    Looks like there's finally some really good stuff in there.
    I particularly like this.
    Persons who act as designated providers to such patients shall
    also not be ((found guilty of a crime under state law for)) arrested,
    prosecuted, or subject to other criminal sanctions or civil
    consequences under state law, notwithstanding any other provision of Code Rev/AI:cro 3 S-5573.2/10 2nd draft
    law, based solely on their assisting with the medical use of
    ((marijuana)) cannabis; and
    Health care professionals shall also ((be excepted from liability
    and prosecution)) not be arrested, prosecuted, or subject to other
    criminal sanctions or civil consequences under state law for the
    authorization of ((marijuana)) medical use ((to)) of cannabis by
    qualifying patients for whom, in the health care professional's
    professional judgment, the medical ((marijuana)) use of cannabis may
    prove beneficial.

    Essentially that finally makes MMJ legal in Washington and not just an affirmative defense. There will still of course be persecution by some law enforcement officials but now there is clear cut legal recourse. Some of the bigots of course will still try to pass the buck off to the federal authorities but if we had a governor or attorney general that follows our state and federal constitution they can order all charges withdrawn in these cases. And we need a governor who will do exactly that. We need a big case(Steve Sarich.lol) that will force the feds to prove how they have any constitutional legal authority over this beneficial plant. They don't of course, its always been a big lie and the lie is slowly being unrolled.

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    #3
    justpics

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by killerweed420
    Looks like there's finally some really good stuff in there.
    I particularly like this.
    Persons who act as designated providers to such patients shall
    also not be ((found guilty of a crime under state law for)) arrested,
    prosecuted, or subject to other criminal sanctions or civil
    consequences under state law, notwithstanding any other provision of Code Rev/AI:cro 3 S-5573.2/10 2nd draft
    law, based solely on their assisting with the medical use of
    ((marijuana)) cannabis; and
    Health care professionals shall also ((be excepted from liability
    and prosecution)) not be arrested, prosecuted, or subject to other
    criminal sanctions or civil consequences under state law for the
    authorization of ((marijuana)) medical use ((to)) of cannabis by
    qualifying patients for whom, in the health care professional's
    professional judgment, the medical ((marijuana)) use of cannabis may
    prove beneficial.

    Essentially that finally makes MMJ legal in Washington and not just an affirmative defense. There will still of course be persecution by some law enforcement officials but now there is clear cut legal recourse. Some of the bigots of course will still try to pass the buck off to the federal authorities but if we had a governor or attorney general that follows our state and federal constitution they can order all charges withdrawn in these cases. And we need a governor who will do exactly that. We need a big case(Steve Sarich.lol) that will force the feds to prove how they have any constitutional legal authority over this beneficial plant. They don't of course, its always been a big lie and the lie is slowly being unrolled.


    It would except later in the Draft you have this;


    "(4) The investigating general or limited authority Washington
    peace officer does not possess evidence that the designated provider
    has converted cannabis produced or obtained for the qualifying patient
    for his or her own personal use or benefit; and
    (5) The investigating general or limited authority Washington
    peace officer does not possess evidence that the designated provider
    has served as a designated provider to more than one qualifying
    patient within a ninety-day period."



    Is a confidential informant telling an officer he thinks you acted as a DP to two people in 90 days, "evidence"? Is a cop thinking you violated this clause for some other silly reason "evidence"?

    I think in a lot of counties it will be.

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    #4
    Senior Member

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    I haven't read it all since I uploaded it late last night, but to me, to truly free the people and the plant, the initiative process is going to be the final nail in LEOs coffin. There should be no criminal or civil sanctions for using or growing cannabis period.

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    #5
    justpics

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    it also explicitly makes it illegal to "benefit" from being someone's DP.


    What does that mean? Does that mean that someone bakes me some cookies for giving them meds I can be arrested?

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    #6
    Junior Member

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    I wouldn't worry about the bill much anyway. There's no way it will pass with this much change on it. Baby steps have to happen in order for these laws to get where they need to be. Congress will take just one little part of one of those big changes (i.e. getting the DoA heavily involved in oversight of production) and bicker about it until the end of session with no real progress happening or being made.

    What needs to happen is to simply clarify the current laws we have making them so that there's no room to interpret one way or the other. Adding what could arguably end up costing the state millions (unless you want to pay $10k plus to aquire a license to produce canabis) is going to be right where this bill stops.

    Especially now when all state departments are being more frugal here. To them, this is taking a risk, a huge one. And I just don't see it happening.

    I would love to see our laws here in WA state end up being exactly what this draft is saying. But I would bet on the fact that it's too drastic of a change for a large group of politicians to concur on.

    Either way, it's a good read.

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    #7
    Senior Member

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by gypski
    I haven't read it all since I uploaded it late last night, but to me, to truly free the people and the plant, the initiative process is going to be the final nail in LEOs coffin. There should be no criminal or civil sanctions for using or growing cannabis period.
    Yeah except for that little detail that the legislature gets to screw with an initiative after 2 years. But we still need to pass that initiative and then prove to the legislature for 2 years that this works and prohibition doesn't. And of course we still have the 880 pound gorilla setting in the corner waiting to pounce on us and California. But if we could ever get a governor that has ever bothered to read the constitution and bill of rights they could smack that bitch right in the face and tell them to get the fuck out of our state. It would be a glorious day the first governor that does this. I would bet you that governor could run for president and win.

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    #8
    Senior Member

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    One of the ongoing problems will be too when the greedy little capitalists get there hands on it and start pumping out the garbage like all there other poisons. Thats why we need to continue to fight to remove ALL regulations for private growth and consumption. If the greedy little capitalists want to come in and make a boatload of cash, fine, but leave the private citizen alone to do as he sees fit. They need to do the same thing for most every other substance too.

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    #9
    Senior Member

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by killerweed420
    Yeah except for that little detail that the legislature gets to screw with an initiative after 2 years. But we still need to pass that initiative and then prove to the legislature for 2 years that this works and prohibition doesn't. And of course we still have the 880 pound gorilla setting in the corner waiting to pounce on us and California. But if we could ever get a governor that has ever bothered to read the constitution and bill of rights they could smack that bitch right in the face and tell them to get the fuck out of our state. It would be a glorious day the first governor that does this. I would bet you that governor could run for president and win.
    Or make it that they can't tamper with the law the people passed. After all, we do supersede them by the phrase We the people. They are still our employees, we do the hiring and firing through elections.

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    #10
    Member

    Latest MMJ Law Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by justpics
    (5) The investigating general or limited authority Washington peace officer does not possess evidence that the designated provider has served as a designated provider to more than one qualifying patient within a ninety-day period."
    So, wait... Is this their attempt to kill dispensaries and such? At the very least, it closes a loophole that many have been using for some time now.

    Edit : Nevermind, I need to RTFM before asking questions

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