adding lime to soil w/ plants already in.(help needed)

really? the soil was very dry until i gave them a little water today...I fed them last monday(5/11) w/ a pretty low ppm(350) then I watered them the follwing thursday(5/14) w/ just ph'd water...and not again until today...but i barely gave a gallon each time i used just ph'd water...

so your analysis is probably spot on...since the overnuting prob, ive barely gave them any nutes...so should I give them water today w/ around 500ppm nutes? and instead of once a week should I go twice aweek?

and how do you know they want nutes and are not on a lockout because of the soil PH(5.9-6.0)?...not that im questiong your judgment ...just curious

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really? the soil was very dry until i gave them a little water today...I fed them last monday(5/11) w/ a pretty low ppm(350) then I watered them the follwing thursday(5/14) w/ just ph'd water...and not again until today...but i barely gave a gallon each time i used just ph'd water...

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i was asking about the soil because they look like they need to be fed, but they also look over-watered (also indicated by the color and we know you leached, but if they are dry they can look as if over-wated). i didn't want to add to the problem.

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so your analysis is probably spot on...since the overnuting prob, ive barely gave them any nutes...so should I give them water today w/ around 500ppm nutes? and instead of once a week should I go twice aweek?

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usually once you flush you feed with a 1/2 strength nutrient solution.

it's tough to recommend a dosage as that feed chart is for hydro. PPMs aren't near as relevant in soil as in hydro. in soil microbes break down the mineral salts (or organic material) so the plant can uptake what it needs. this is not so in hydro, as there is obviously no microbes. soil plants are a lot more forgiving, but slower to react, either negatively or positively.

you might call them and see if they have any soil feeding info.

if you feed a low dosage you can feed twice a week, or you can just up the dosage. start out small, increasing as you go. once you see the plant start to burn on the edge of the serrated part of your leaves, back off just a bit. t

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and how do you know they want nutes and are not on a lockout because of the soil PH(5.9-6.0)?...not that im questiong your judgment ...just curious

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i can tell they need nutes by their color mostly. the brown spots can also be a lack of something. you also have admitted to not have feeding recently now. lol. you have also flushed a lot, which leaches nutes from the soil. a pH of 5.9-6.0 is not far from the optimum of ~6.3, and looking at a pH chart, not there is not much that can be kept from the plant. phosphorus does fall off sharply close to here, and i believe those brown spots can be from a phosphorus deficiency (don't have my bible in front of me).

hope this helps.


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meant to add this chart earlier.

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i see...ok one more...I prepared 3 gallons of nuted water, and there are 12 plants...so thats about 1 gallon for every 3 plants...is this enough? should i be giving water until i see it come out of the bottom? because if thats the case i should be giving 1/2 to 3/4 a gallon to every plant...

Im going to go ahead and feed them nuted water(500ppm) tonight w/ a slightly higher ph(6.7-6.8)...then I guess Ill wait to see how they look on friday and make a judgement call to see if they need more nutes...

hopefully it works out....also the strain is kempdog...not sure if that makes a diff but ive heard this strain can take some shit and still keep going

you want to make sure your entire medium gets wet. you don't want dry spots. i don't worry about it so much when just watering though. i'll just dump a big cup of water or something in a container if it needs it sometimes.

it also will depend on your root size (more roots and your medium will hold less moisture, same thing if it's old/compacted). your temps also play a part in this.

the most important thing you can do is learn to read your plants. there is no set formula, merely a guideline. your ladies will tell you all you need to know, you just have to learn what to look for. so when you do something, pay attention to how they react.


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Just some pics...I dont think im going to feed them again until monday...they seem to be responding well( seems like the rust spots have stopped, I havent seen further progression by them on the same leaves) ...I was reading some of your old posts and i realized I made a mistake by transplanting the clones straight into a 3 gallon pot...I know now that i should of started 1 gallon and transplanted...So I was "thinking about transplanting to 5 gallon pots just to make up for the error...but to be honest im not sure if i can swing that cash wise by monday.....

the pictures are of the 12 plants split up under 2 lights...I only gave them 500 ppm this past feeding...and im making the switch to 12/12 this monday so I was going to give them the flowering nutriens at about 600....maybe 700 ppm?

10 of the plants are 17-19 inches...2 of the plants are around 12-15 inches

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7723/90466842.jpg
(all around 18-19 inches)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4476/123olu.jpg
(I swear i thought i saw some tacoing...but i think im just paranoid)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/284/1234bem.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4453/photord.jpg

all these were taken right before they go to bed too..

i'd push the nutes harder than that. push them until you see the leaf tips start to burn and then back them off a bit.

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some of ur pics seem to show ur pots setting in those clear plastic trays that catch runoff and keep the floor dry. soil grown plants should NEVER be allowed to set in standing runoff.always drain to waste. do you elevate ur pots above these catch basins ??

negative, Im usually just pro active about draining the trays...after each watering I wait until it accumulates and just drain it manually into my water can...then outside...(wash my water can can vigorously too,wash trays every two weeks,clean room once a week)...I never thought about elevation to be honest.