Bubbler-Pond fogger cloner

Proday.
That blue pencil joke was from start to finish hilarious and then to watch Horse's reaction....vrooommm. He totally missed that one.

I am such a Newbâ?¦.I read it and my mind went immediately to â??another strain Iâ??ve never heard ofâ?�. And I was busy being â??a good little scoutâ?�, getting my correspondence taken care ofâ?¦.It just didnâ??t register. Oh wellâ?¦.Iâ??m pretty sure that it wonâ??t be the last time that the joke is on me. Thankfully Iâ??m not too thin skinned.

I'm gonna start a thread on that discussion I think.

If you start another thread please link meâ?¦..I donâ??t personally scan for everything coming down the line.
Understand thisâ?¦..the reason for starting this thread is to learn exactly that subject. So running that discussion here is a benefit to me.

I have most definitely killed fog roots before in as little as 20 minutes if I recall. However, too much fog and you have humidity issues and get mold. Tonight, I had to pull a basil plant from my system because it had root rot from too much fog and humidity. Your going to want frequent periods of intense fog is about all I can say.

I moved my new toy in from the shop and put my first cuts in todayâ?¦.so Iâ??m just looking forward to having roots to worry about at all. Iâ??ve never fogged before and donâ??t even know what fog roots look likeâ?¦.so if youâ??re inclined to post a picture or two, Iâ??d appreciate it.

Shake,
ROTFLMAO! And not even a grinnieâ?¦..!
I looked to see if you were onlineâ?¦.you werenâ??t. So when you get back from â??anger managementâ?� classâ?¦.check in. I used to go to anger managementâ?¦..I quitâ?¦.it just pissed me off! :( (my first glummie)

HMR

Hey HMR,

I didn't mean to make YOU the joke, thought you'd laff with me about your growing blue pencils, I often forget you young folk don't remember pencils, or at least the most famous one.:)

Congrats tho on the use of emoticons!:thumbsup:

The best way I have found to determine fog or even true aero cycle timming is to run the fog untill you see it start to condensate, let it go alittle longer then stop it. The off time should be long enough to let the relative humidity in the root zone to diminish, then cyle again. You don't want the roots, especially the fine ones to dry out. There are alot of factors that determine how long these on/off cycles should be, such as how much fog does the fogger put out and the size of the root zone you are trying to fill. How fast the humidity decreases is a function of how air tight the root zone, obviously with porus plant covers it will be faster to dry out then a tight system. etc.

That becomes the experimental part, trial and error. BTW with this being for rooting cuttings the increase in humidity (above the root zone) should not pose a problem. If it does seem excessive a small fan should fix that.

Good luck with it, I'll be watching. ;)

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i like the idea of no substrate.. can it still be organic?
-J

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Originally Posted by Horsemanrocks

Shake,
ROTFLMAO! And not even a grinnieâ?¦..!
I looked to see if you were onlineâ?¦.you werenâ??t. So when you get back from â??anger managementâ?� classâ?¦.check in. I used to go to anger managementâ?¦..I quitâ?¦.it just pissed me off! :( (my first glummie)

HMR

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i just can't bring myself to do it HMR! i've tried but i just can't click the button!

and as far as that anger management shit, i beat up my teacher and peeled out of the parking lot. interestingly enough it made me less angry and feel much better......


:cool::wtf::jointsmile::thumbsup:


there....that should keep me good for the next decade or so!


-shake

I didn't mean to make YOU the joke, thought you'd laff with me about your growing blue pencils, I often forget you young folk don't remember pencils, or at least the most famous one.

I know you didnâ??tâ?¦.I did that all by myself. Not only are you brighter and more experienced, youâ??re also a kinder man than I am. (the addition to my siggy is only there to remind me that â??Heyâ?¦..Iâ??m foolish enough to be presidentâ?�)

Congrats tho on the use of emoticons!

Emotiphobes meet Tuesday at 7pm in the main hall. Itâ??s a twelve step program.
Itâ??s the part about apologizing to everyone that Iâ??ve wronged that scares me. Now thatâ??s gonna take some time!
Iâ??m trying to pull one out of Headshakeâ?¦â?¦whaddaya think my chances areâ?¦..! Itâ??s hard being an emotiphobe, maybe he could start with a ;>) even a ;> would be a beginning. Hey Shake ;

The best way I have found to determine fog or even true aero cycle timming is to run the fog untill you see it start to condensate, let it go alittle longer then stop it. The off time should be long enough to let the relative humidity in the root zone to diminish, then cyle again.

Even that part is a mystery to me. If you can root a cutting in a water glass or root cubeâ?¦.how could the fog chamber be too moist.

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How fast the humidity decreases is a function of how air tight the root zone, obviously with porus plant covers it will be faster to dry out then a tight system. etc.
I did punch holes in the collars to get the fog flow into the chamber in the first place. That saidâ?¦.it appears that the fog chambers could easily hold humidity (condensation) for a couple hours. Should I consider dropping the 24/7 approach and begin cycling even before I have roots. ( I donâ??t even have a guess how long that will take) Also a bubbler cycle should stir up humidity some too.

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That becomes the experimental part, trial and error. BTW with this being for rooting cuttings the increase in humidity (above the root zone) should not pose a problem. If it does seem excessive a small fan should fix that.

For the time beingâ?¦..Iâ??m just trying to hold moisture inâ?¦above the root zone!

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Good luck with it, I'll be watching.

You can be sure that this Doofus appreciates that! Donâ??t be gone too longâ?¦.as you can well imagine,I can get into trouble in a heartbeat! :)

Over and under,
HMR

Whoopsâ?¦.Shakeâ?¦you got in ahead of me. I gotta admit, you are some kind of â??wild and crazy guyâ?�.

and as far as that anger management shit, i beat up my teacher and peeled out of the parking lot. interestingly enough it made me less angry and feel much better......
See ya�.Tues 7 pm main hall�� ;)

i did beat you to the punch HMR....but it didn't feel near as good as i thought it would. lol.

how is the fogger treating you?

any luck with the humidity issues?

hope you had a great holiday!


-shake

i did beat you to the punch HMR.

Yeahâ?¦.and after a conversation with your anger management instructorâ?¦.Iâ??ve been advised to continue to let you beat me to the punchâ?¦.or get punched.

but it didn't feel near as good as i thought it would.

Try Saw palmettoâ?¦.I hear that it may help with â??feel goodâ?�.

hope you had a great holiday!

I didâ?¦.and I got an exciting present this morningâ?¦..my very first fog roots.
The cuts went into the fogger late on the 19thâ?¦.today the 27th was actually the first time that I even lifted that potâ?¦.so 7 to 8 days is very exciting for me as the stories about cheap foggers being too puny or to dry to work seem to abound.
I only put in four cuts as Iâ??m a little short for the momentâ?¦.still 1 of 4 is enough for me for the moment.

Since the flower room is occupied and I need to bring along some mothersâ?¦these will have to make a transition to soil at some point. As the fog roots grow up some Iâ??ll begin to bubble some to smooth the transition. Any tips (or guesses) on root management and when and how much to begin to feed would be appreciated.

The two grow chambers donâ??t get exactly the same flowâ?¦.the one that rooted came from the chamber with the lesser flow. Does this mean that the other side is overly fogged? Hell if I knowâ?¦Iâ??ll play with it some. But if I donâ??t get cracking on growing up some viable momâ??sâ?¦.it may be a while.

Iâ??ve also begun to cut out a few 15 min fog cycles. No complaints yet!

An ex girlfriend once said to me â??youâ??re very easily entertainedâ?� (it was not a complimentâ?¦trust me) so my tiny little triumph is huge to me. I know that I have a long way to goâ?¦..if I come up with a little management strategy then this pig may eventually fly.

More another time,
HMR

Iâ??ve started with two different strains..2 cuts from each.
The split is equalâ?¦.one of each on either side (gotta admit that the difference in flow is very marginal).
Both of one strain are rooting and the others are yet to come.
For the moment Iâ??m assuming the flow difference isnâ??t the factor. Just the strain difference or the prior feeding being the difference.

HMR

The third rooted late the second day (yesterday)â?¦.the fourth never really recovered from the cut. It was the smallest and a little marginal in my mind anyway.
So Iâ??m pleased with 3 of 4 taking root.

I removed their domes for a while today to see if they could stand on their ownâ?¦..nope not yet!

Present thinking is to let the roots develop someâ?¦.and then bubble splash some to begin to acclimate for transition to soil.

One of the things that I like the best is having development so consistent throughout.

Still having fun,
HMR

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Originally Posted by Horsemanrocks

The third rooted late the second day (yesterday)â?¦.the fourth never really recovered from the cut. It was the smallest and a little marginal in my mind anyway.
So Iâ??m pleased with 3 of 4 taking root.
Same thing I discovered with fog, marginal cuttings don't grow marginal in fog...they seem to die off. But I've had cuttings go completely dead, or seemed to be dead, start to throw new roots, after an extended period.

I removed their domes for a while today to see if they could stand on their ownâ?¦..nope not yet!
Not unusual when in a dome. When you remove the doom try playing a bugle revelry loudly while yelling "get up you bitches"; sometimes works for me.

Present thinking is to let the roots develop someâ?¦.and then bubble splash some to begin to acclimate for transition to soil.
Sounds like a decent plan.

One of the things that I like the best is having development so consistent throughout.
??? 3 made it 1 did not, consistent....oh you talking about the growth!

Still having fun,
HMR

Fun is good:thumbsup:

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Happy New Year HMR! Continued success.-oldmac :)