bush administration signs cut-and-run deal in iraq
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Originally Posted by maladroit
- it is natural for the usa military to guard it's investment after it invaded the country, replaced the government, and conducted an open ended military occupation of it's puppet government...it is a legal obligation under the laws of war
Still parroting those that parrot the left-wing gospel, huh...? Your knowledge of the matter is quite impressive...been watching NBC too much, huh?
"did you notice the date-stamp for the story...?"
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Originally Posted by maladroit
Yup...I hear that the Canadians are guarding it for us.
It's kinda funny how someone can actually believe the drivvel some bloggers get y'all to believe. But then...it's not rocket scientists that they play to, either. Their base is made-up of nothing but sheep that wish they could think for themselves. Can't even find an up-to-date story to misquote, misapply and misunderstand, huh?
Your revisionist history is remarkably inept, without fact...and quite amusing. You mention nothing of the IAEA reports leading up to the invasion, (and subsequent eviction of the IAEA inspectors by Saddam) US attempts to in the UN reign-in the Saddam regime's persistent intention to aquire nukes, (t'was the world view regardless of what side of the aisle you represent) the US stopping at Iraq's borders in the first gulf war, (as removing the Iraqi invaders out of Kuwait was the mission, and not one drop of Iraqi oil was touched) and Saddam's increasing rhetoric regarding his aquisition of nukes, which spawned how many UN (security council and general assembly) resolutions in an attempt to discourage his continued folly?
Your attempts fell short. Better luck next time. :jointsmile:
bush administration signs cut-and-run deal in iraq
"Still parroting those that parrot the left-wing gospel, huh...?"
- i am a liberal, but opposition to US foreign policy is not a left-right thing unless being a right winger automatically means supporting international crime...even conservatives admit that:
'I think in this case international law stood in the way of doing the right thing. International law ... would have required us to leave Saddam Hussein alone.'
- Richard Pearle, Defense Secretary advisor and architect of the invasion of iraq, Nov/03
"Can't even find an up-to-date story to misquote, misapply and misunderstand, huh?"
- the report was written only 8 years ago by richard pearle, dick cheney, and donald rumsfeld, and put into action by the same people after they got back into the federal government...if you think any of that isn't true, good luck finding an up-to-date story to prove it
"You mention nothing of the IAEA reports leading up to the invasion, (and subsequent eviction of the IAEA inspectors by Saddam)"
- your inept revisionist history isn't amusing - it's sad...the IAEA didn't find WMD, and it was george bush who pulled the UN weapons inspectors out of iraq...sorry if these links are too old for you - that's the trouble with ancient history; the news media is obsessed with current events:
interview with chief US weapons inspector and head of IAEA:
Transcript: Director General's CNN Interview - 21 March 2004
US warns weapons inspectors to leave iraq:
USATODAY.com - U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq
"US attempts to in the UN reign-in the Saddam regime's persistent intention to aquire nukes"
- that was a good policy...so good in fact, that it was successful...the rest of the foreign policy on iraq: not so much
"the US stopping at Iraq's borders in the first gulf war"
- why would i mention something that happened during a legal war in 1991 in a discussion about an illegal war in 2003? can't even find an up-to-date story to misquote, misapply and misunderstand, huh?
"Saddam's increasing rhetoric regarding his aquisition of nukes"
- this should be good: please post hussein's quotes about his acquisition of nuclear weapons in the leadup to the invasion of iraq...all i could find was increasing rhetoric regarding saddam's acquisition of nukes from american politicians...meanwhile, hussein was cooperating with weapons inspectors, and disclosing the FACT that he didn't have WMD
bush administration signs cut-and-run deal in iraq
Iraqis hold huge rally demanding rejection of security pact with U.S.
Published: Saturday, October 18, 2008 | 11:30 AM ET
Canadian Press: Hamza Hendawi, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
BAGHDAD - Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr on Saturday called on Iraq's parliament to reject a U.S.-Iraqi security pact as tens of thousands of his followers rallied in Baghdad against the deal.
The mass public show of opposition came as U.S. and Iraqi leaders face a Dec. 31 deadline to ratify the agreement, which would replace an expiring United Nations mandate authorizing the U.S.-led forces in Iraq.
Al-Sadr's message was read by his aide Sheik Abdul-Hadi al-Mohammadawi before a huge crowd of mostly young men waving Iraqi and green Shiite flags and chanting slogans including "No, no to the agreement" and "Yes to Iraq."
"The Iraqi government has abandoned its duty before God and its people and referred the agreement to you knowing that ratifying it will stigmatize Iraq and its government for years to come," he said.
"I am with every Sunni, Shiite or Christian who is opposed to the agreement ... and I reject, condemn and renounce the presence of occupying forces and basis on our beloved land," the message added.
Al-Sadr, who is living in Iran, also cast doubt on the Iraqi government's argument that the security pact is a step toward ending the U.S. presence in Iraq. The deal would require U.S. forces to leave by Dec. 31, 2011, unless Iraq asked some of them to stay.
"If they tell you that the agreement ends the presence of the occupation, let me tell you that the occupier will retain its bases. And whoever tells you that it gives us sovereignty is a liar," al-Sadr said. "I am confident that you brothers in parliament will champion the will of the people over that of the occupier ... Do not betray the people."
The demonstrators marched from the main Shiite district of Sadr City to the more central Mustansiriyah Square in eastern Baghdad.
"No, No to America," shouted one man, wearing a white robe as he sat in a wheelchair and clutched a poster of the Iraqi flag. "We prefer death to giving concessions."
Security was tight with Iraqi security forces manning checkpoints on sidestreets and snipers on rooftops. Iraqi Humvees controlled all the roads leading to the square. Giant Iraqi flags covered nearby buildings.
One banner in English said: "We refuse the existence of the U.S. in Iraq."
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March 2008 Poll of iraqis - 72% oppose the presence of foreign troops in iraq
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/h...lmarch2008.pdf
