Out of Body Experiences: Keywords: OOBE, Astral Projection
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Out of Body Experiences: Keywords: OOBE, Astral Projection
Check this link out. This guy (Robert Peterson) knows his shit!
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DMT(in ayahuasca) and Salvinorum A (in salvia divinorum) are the fastest ways to get what you guys are describing. That said, I do NOT advise anyone who is not experienced with similar substances to try them without lots of proper research.
I was the first to give a personal experience to the original poster months ago when this thread was started. I havn't visited this thread in awhile and was pleasantly suprised to see it is still going with lots of good info and others experiences. Anyway, I want to add some more insight as to what I believe may have induced my OOBE. My life was in total chaos when I had my OOBE. A series of negative events (not just the ones on that day) that occured in my life around that time was really taking its toll on my spiritual, mental, and physical health. It seemed like every thought that entered my mind was negative even though I have had maintained a positive view about life until those series of events. Now, when I read this advice from Dream of the Iris, "stilling your mind is a very important skill to learn if you're going to get into this" I was reminded and/or brought back to my state of mind on the couch that day. I remembered that I was so tired of the negative thoughts in my head that I forced myself into a stilled state where no thoughts were going through my mind at all. It was in that moment that the OOBE began. Did the OOBE happen because of this? I'm not sure but imho yes my stilled or completely thoughtless mind had something to do with it.
Well... keeping the mind clear of thoughts is the first step to a lot of alterated states of consciousness, as OOBEs, meditative trances, lucid dreaming, "stopping the world", etc... i wouldnt say that your OOBE happened because of only this, but surely it was one crucial step to it happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bizzle2008
haha awesome to see this thread still going!!! good stuff too.. since i posted this thread i had very little success with OBE's and kind of gave up. Some of the stuff i have read has reinspired my desire to explore!
I had a couple when I was about 10. We used to play wrestle a lot, and at one point I was underneath this other guy, totally unable to move and struggling as much as I could. Suddenly I was looking at the side of my own head (not much more than the side of my face gong back to my ear). It only lasted a few seconds, but it was long enough to recognise myself. I could still see myself struggling and I knew I was separate from my body, but it didn't feel odd at all, quite calm and normal somehow.
I read a lot about them during my teens and it seems that all the stuff about people seeing silver cords connecting you to your body is made up. Interesting experience.
MelT
I've got stoned and drifted from a thought onto a journey to far away known places thanks to those thoughts ... but i believe it's possible to achieve all of these states even without the use of a psychedelic ! Psychedelics can however enhance the experience to a large extent !
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Originally Posted by Bizzle2008
Congratulations! You've just had your first Satori! This is truly special, more so then the OOBE. I would suggest using that experience to help you along your path and to read more about achieving that state continuesly. That thoughtless mind is what enlightenment is. Now that you've glimpsed it, I would suggest you work on yourself. A good place to start is reading related books, such as The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle or join a yoga/meditation class.
As Cohelo said, your OOBE did not happen as a result of that, but it did aid in the process. The thoughtless mind is more important then the OOBE, however.
The so-called Satori is just this? Being thoughtless? If it is so, im sure i had several ones... whenever i use weed + (some unnameable), during some seconds my consciousness enters in a state of pure awareness. I can only percieve the world around (or even stop to percieve it) and dont think absolutely anything. In fact, i cant even comprehend very well what im percieving. The only thing im aware is i feel like if i had realized some very deep thing, if i had a glimpse of "the meaning of the life", "the secret of the universe", whataver... i feel the same sudden realization we feel at the moment we understand a joke, and that is what makes us laugh... and so i laugh and laugh continuously because i figured the deepest and yet the simplest and most obvious thing in the world... but it is beyond words. I cant explain (nor even remember rightly) what is this thing i always realize whenever i reach this state of consciousness. After several repetitions, i could figure that its something that resembles itself, or rather, this is the only concept defined by words that i could notice that has anything to do with whatever i realized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dream of the iris
Then, after some moments in this state, my mind slowly re-starts to think, but the thoughts are scattered and with some intervals of not thinking between them, and it makes the sequence of thoughts very crazy, as it consists of completly unrelated thoughts...
And when all this craziness ends, im back to the "normal" world. Feeling very happy, at peace with everything, and relaxed... (far more than if i had only smoked).
So is it the so-called enlightenment? While it is a very remarkable experience indeed, and maybe even life-changing, as after i had it i could see the world in a different way, i still am not sure if what i experienced was THE enlightenment. So, what do you think?