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28'x15'= 420 sq. ft. Since you wanna do that massive killer crop (we'll figure 50 watts per sq. ft), you only need ~ 20 (1000 watt H.P.S.) for flowering, or 35 600 watt H.P.S.

Yeah, you NEED a generator. Drawing 20 kw's/hour x 12 hours= 240 kwh's a day= 7200 kwh's per month. You WILL get someones attention.

GIve each plant 3'x3', thats only ~45 plants. You'll be busy as a one armed paper hanger with crotch itch come trim time.

Better know an electrican, HVAC guy, or be both, seriously. And that 10,000 BTU AC you have you can smash. It will be just as effective when running that kind of light.

Who said weird:D:D


b0nger


P.S. Post pictures when you have it all set up. I will eagerly await them.

i feel like i am gonna get 6-600w HPS and some conversion bulbs with horizontal and vertical reflectors for diff part of the room and possibly some light movers, and grab dual digital ballast so i have as little heat making devices around. . the landlord is inspecting tommroow. and then our friend whos a construction worker is gonna come in and set everything up for us (lights ,ballast,ventilation) and pics will be in soon... guys be prepared the king is back

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i feel like i am gonna get 6-600w HPS and some conversion bulbs with horizontal and vertical reflectors for diff part of the room and possibly some light movers, and grab dual digital ballast so i have as little heat making devices around. . the landlord is inspecting tommroow. and then our friend whos a construction worker is gonna come in and set everything up for us (lights ,ballast,ventilation) and pics will be in soon... guys be prepared the king is back

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Uhhhh - you are talking about getting enough light for 72 square feet of growing area.

The court jester needed 200 sq.ft. just to apply for the job.

PC :rastasmoke:

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This is idiotic advice!!!

Do not ever vent any gas appliance anywhere other than to outside. Carbon Monoxice is a by product of combustion and it will kill you!

Venting gas appliances to the inside of your house will kill you!!!

Jeez, Khronic, get your head out of your ass and think before you post something like this. Bad grow advice can only ruin someone's crop. This kind of shit will get someone dead! :mad:

PC :pimp:

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First of all, many natural gas hot water heaters do not have vents, and just vent straight to the basement anyway! They don't burn enough gas that there is a danger of CO poisoning, but they do produce CO2. Gas ovens also vent directly to the air and probably use more fuel than a hot water heater. Your furnace, on the other had burns LOTS of gas, and to my credit I did say not to vent that into your basement. However, there is such a thing as a ventless heater, that is meant for heating indoor areas. These are designed to vent directly into the indoor air, and before you ask, no, they will not kill you.

Second of all, anything that burns gas will ONLY produce CO if there isn't enough ambient oxygen. If you have 50 plants in the basement, there will be, if they have any size to them.

Third of all, most new gas-burning appliances, furnaces included, will have an oxygen sensor that shuts off the gas if the oxygen drops to around 18%. This is nowhere near low enough to cause hypoxia or produce carbon monoxide. Admittedly, I probably should have mentioned that you should check and see if your appliances have these sensors if you want to be on the safe side.

stinky i do remember a couple of stories like that, slightly different though. one of those were a lesson in rehab no less. how many pebbles can you get out of the jar in one try? so you would reach in and grab a handfull, then you couldnt get your hand out because you had a fistfull of pebbles.(you might get a couple out if you were carefull and grabbed them with your fingertips) the other was a couple of crows on a picnic table with pitchers of water on them, since the water was too low for them to stick their heads in and get a drink one of the crows decided to wait till it rained then he could surely get a drink, the other started picking up small pebbles and dropping them in his pitcher. eventually he had put in enough pebbles to raise the water level to the top of his pitcher and he could drink from it.
that garden will still be a humongus amount of work, but i am glad you found somebody to help you.

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First of all, many natural gas hot water heaters do not have vents, and just vent straight to the basement anyway!

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This is absolute nonsense! :mad:

Look Khronic, I don't want to get in a big argument with you. But, really, gas appliances need to be vented to the outside. (40 years of construction experience here on my side.)

PC :pimp:

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This is absolute nonsense! :mad:

Look Khronic, I don't want to get in a big argument with you. But, really, gas appliances need to be vented to the outside. (40 years of construction experience here on my side.)

PC :pimp:

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well to be fair, the only gas water heater without a vent that I know of was at my last apartment. Maybe they don't make them like that anymore. But still, not all gas appliances (for example stoves and ventless heaters) have vents. These days oxygen sensors are mandatory and carbon monoxide detectors are cheap, so this is something I would do myself in such a situation.

However, I will admit that telling OTHER people that it's possible is probably a mistake, and thus take back what I said. It's far too easy to do it wrong and put people in danger.

if i germinate 100 seeds and sex them i will prob get like 50-70 females... i wish i could get 100fems from 100seeds having the luck that all the seeds germinate and grow nicely. wow i wish i was god

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well to be fair, the only gas water heater without a vent that I know of was at my last apartment. Maybe they don't make them like that anymore. But still, not all gas appliances (for example stoves and ventless heaters) have vents. These days oxygen sensors are mandatory and carbon monoxide detectors are cheap, so this is something I would do myself in such a situation.

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ROFLMAO - Man, where the fuck are you living, Dogpatch? You are talking about some really antiquated building practices.

Long ago, they used to let you vent the water heater cabinet, instead of the water heater. Perhaps that is what you had. :wtf:

I haven't seen an unvented heater since crap that was built in the 1930's & 40's - you know, before they cared too much about building codes.

Anyway, I'm just raggin on ya cuz really, I haven't seen the kind of construction you are talking about for a very long time. Nowadays, every precaution is taken to make sure that all the by-products of combustion are vented outside the occupied area. Even my gas oven has a vent through the roof and my gas range has a vented hood over it.

PeaCe :jointsmile:

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anything said in this post is completely made up, i know nothing about marijuana i just pretend for fun

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Ok i have a few things to say, first off if your doing thin for business purposes .. use 1000 watters, they are practically the same price as 600s, and for economical reasons ..( bud density etc.) in my opinion 600 w are for clostet hobby growers or for veg lights. If your trying to flower for profit .. u need 1000 watters
K now comes the second part, how u plan on growing in the future should dictate what type of setup you buy .. for example say you decide to do a sea of green room with 6 1000 watters , at 25 plants per light .. you could have a veg room that consists of 1 1000 watt light for a few mother plants , and a few 6 footer fluorescents to veg clones under .. and that should be all you need for a veg setup to supply 6 1000 watters in flower.(if you were to do a sea of green setup). So in short to answer your qeustion what should you buy .. well ... it all depends on what type of flower setup you were hoping to have. If your doing commercial in my opinion sea of green is the way to go .it requires less lights for veg , and in my opinion if you do it old school method u need more veg lights , and in my opinion your better off using all that extra wattaga you would be throwing at veg lights into flower lights = more bud every cycle. Ill be more than happy to answer a question if u have one :rastasmoke: