First CFL bagseed grow

Thanks Mrs. Greenjeans dunno about fashion models , lol trying to do my best.
I hope your girls recover, and hope you can find a spot for them to have a new home.

Shovelhandle thanks for the complement ,Im fairly sure that the expert gardener soil im using is similiar to mg time released soil. Some people dont like it but its working fine for me. I eventually will move up to using fox farm ocean forest soil and organic nutes , but I needed to get my feet wet since its been years since ive grown.

See I wanna add one more light to myset up I didn't realized walmat had such cheap socket's aka just the cord that plugs into the wall.. whatever its called lol

Yea KL4D4, Walmart can be a cannabis grower's wonderland if your looking for cheap useful products. Im gonna eventually go to a hydro store that's about 45 minutes away from me but for now walmart is my favorite grow shop.

Just a small update on how my favorite indica female is doing she's starting to look like a bush. She has got some huge leaves on her too.

My sativa female is also doing good , just didnt feel like getting her out for a photo (shes big and real bushy). My 3rd female is still finicky but im keeping her around just to see how she smokes.

How do you all think shes looking , Ive got some clones going of her at the moment (If shes good smoke I plan on keeping her around for a while).

all of em are beautiful, great grow

This looks really good, thanks for sharing the log. That indica looks really bushy...I love her!

I know what you mean about far away hydro shops...sigh. Hey can you show us your clones and what technique you went with?

Again looking good!

:jointsmile: Bree

Bree , Thx for the complements. Yea that Indica female is a nice plant , not bad at all for a bagseed, im hoping she makes nice potent buds. If so, I prolly keep her around for a long time. Maybe even do a small breeding project with her (With seeds im gonna order) Nirvanna's "AK-48 male"x"My Indica female" lol. I like her alot because she has a sweet citrusy smell with mild hits of skunk , deep green leaves and she is very hardy I dont think I could over-fertilize her , she loves all the fertilizer I throw at her and her node space is really tight.
I can just imagine How shes gonna smell flowering.

Im cloning Using a wick cloner similiar to this

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Simple and easy to make lol.

They (the clones) have all survived and will soon be places in 1-Liter pots in my vegg box.

I'll try and post photos of them in the cloner later tonight. Along with some more photos of my 3 other female plants. I killed the 1 male plant ( I actually felt bad for killing him R.I.P) I kept a couple of his big indica leaves to remeber him by.

Im getting anxious to flower so they will be flowered very shortly ( I wanted to make sure my clones took before I flowered).

As for posting my grow log , just trying to do my part getting people to overgrow the governments of the world.

I have to agree with everyone else - I'm impressed r00tdoctor. Your plants look very nice, period. BUT they are especially nice given the (relatively) "minimal" lighting set up.

I think "bag seed" gets a bad rap - after all, if the seeds were from some killer bud you just smoked, that is a helluva lot more "telling" than anything some seed breeding company might tell you about the plant. Unfortunately/fortunately, around here finding a seed in your baggie is INCREDIBLY rare, at least if you're buying "middle of the road" (and up) quality buds. Even the local or east coast stuff, besides the stuff from B.C., is generally bred and raised with good technique (hence, no males or hermies left in crop.)

Oh yeah, and while I like all of your plants (even the "bitch" doesn't look that bad really), obviously the Indica bush you've got going there is the real stunner. Awesome phenotype - it looks like a perfect specimen of the "indica stereotype." I hope it smokes as good as it looks - whatever the case, I'm glad to read you've kept clones, because even if you're not totally happy with the stone, you can at least take a crack at breeding it into something you DO like.

sharer6969 thx for your insight/complements on the subject. Alot of people say bagseed will produce hermie bud which isn't nesscarily true. Some growers make there own seed stock to plant outdoors and inevitably miss killing a male or two especially if they have a large outdoor crop or multiple crop locations. I know a couple of outdoor growers from around here and thats the methods they use.

The 3 Indica bagseed Plants I grew (2 females/ 1 Male) Was from an ounce of Good green. It was locally grown outdoors , there is alot of outdoor grow bud in my area considering my state has got some of the most fertile soil in the usa. Im not sure of the bagseeds lineage. The ounce I got the seeds out of only had three seeds in it. They all sprouted and the one indica female has been turning out nice.

The other seed (the sativa dom) I got out of some real good trippy chronic I smoked with a friend. It looked like it was outdoor grow also I found 2 seeds in his stash, I actaully made him let me break up the buds to look for seeds lol. Only one sprouted , it turned out to be female so I got lucky.

And about my Indica pheno now that I know more about her needs/wants I think her cloned daughter's will turn out even sexier. And by next grow I plan on having a 600watt hps light to really see what she can do. Well keep watching because the fun of flowering is gonna start soon.

Now mexican brick bagseed might be bad to use , lol. I can get quarter pounds of that for $225 a little seedy but decent looking, not something I would want to take the time to grow though. (Mexi sativas can get huge)

Ok, I had to update my avatar with a new pic of my favorite Indica lol.


Heres a couple pics of my Sativa and Indica bushes. The sativa plant has minor burned tips on some of her fan leaves because a few days ago I accedently gave her too much fert , I thought I poured the fert in my water container but I poured it into a container that alreasy had fert in it oops! (I was high at the time, mental note: messing with plant food and smoking chronic dosent mix), I noticed the mistake before I gave it to my indica plant , I gave the sativa a mild flush and shes fine and healthy besides the minor burn, Seems it made her get even more bushy too. They have out grew there containers again , I think tonight ill move them up to 3-5 gallon ones , so that means a trip to walmart.

I didnt realise how big n bushy the sativa was until I took them out of the closet for photos, shes got 1000 leaves I think. Shes "big", but its a bushy sort of big , not a streched sort of big. Alot of sativa plants I see on here are more of a tall strechy sort of big. And shes is this bushy and I havent even topped her or anything.

I will post photo's of my little wick cloner later tonight.

Here you girls / guys go:

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I didnt realise how big n bushy the sativa was until I took them out of the closet for photos, shes got 1000 leaves I think. Shes "big", but its a bushy sort of big , not a streched sort of big. Alot of sativa plants I see on here are more of a tall strechy sort of big. And shes is this bushy and I havent even topped her or anything.

I will post photo's of my little wick cloner later tonight.

Here you girls / guys go:

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OH my goodness....that sativa is very large and bushy.....I want to see you flower that....she will be a freaking monster when done :eek:....will you have the room? And :yippee: about the cloner...I want to see it!

:jointsmile: Bree

Yea I should have the room if not theres lots of tall closets in my house lol , I will snap some photos of the wick cloner later tonight.

yo i told u i got mad questions. . .if i was gonna let my plant grow only about 2- 2 1/2 feet. . .how big should the pot i use be?? your plants look lovely by the way. . .i would be very excited

since we have almost identical growing conditions you're pretty much my source for info/help.

anyways, my plants finally broke soil, except...well it's weird. 3 little...things have popped up. they're like very small stems with a blade at the end. the thing is, they've all popped up kinda far away from where the seed was planted and...it was only one seed. it's easier to just show, so i'll do that. the pics kinda fuzzy cause i used low res to make it smaller, but you can still make out what i mean. basically: what is going on?

gedda.. thos sprouts are not cannabis.. the soil prolly had some other spores or seeds in it before you planted the seed... just pluck em out.. and wait for ur seed to raise its might head..

root- plants are looking superb so far.. cant wait to see those beasts in flowering... its gonna look like a jungle in ur closet...lol a great magical jungle..:jointsmile:

I been very, very busy , But my grow is comming along well and ive been planning for better future grows. I will post pictures soon. My plants have been moved to larger containers and are looking pretty happy even the finicky plant is looking ok.

I will have some decent genetics soon also (even though im gonna keep my best indica and sativa around, maybe to breed with?).
I ordered Mandala's Hashberry , Nirvanna's AK-48 , and Nirvanna's Northern Light's. With my order I should be getting some freebies of 'Sour NLX' beans :
( Sour Diesel x (Northernlights x White Widow) ) with my order also.
I should have those seeds this tues or wed's.
I will post here when I get them and also do a full report of the place I ordered from In the strain/seeds section.

Ive also got a 600watt hps light now from htgsupply (a relative sent me), I still need to get it a bulb and work out better ventalation for that beast of a light. Im probally gonna order a bulb from htg's ebay store in the next few days since they got them for real cheap.

Gedda did ur seeds pop? Just curious.
Notorious they just might be beast when I flower them with a hps lol.

Keep the pics going boss. :)

actually i pulled those seeds. i got some much better ones and the originals weren't look too hot anyways. the new ones are from a much stronger strain and sprouted really fast. i'll post some pics in a couple days.

alright i lied. i tried to do this as an edit but it was too late. here's some fuzzy pics. the first one's the "good one" and is taller than it looks in the pic, it's also tilting slightly to the right right now due to having a single CFL (which i plan on remedying with the same solution you used soon) the second one just popped last night. they were both put in 6 days ago.

...they wont' be as fuzzy when i get used to the new camera.

get the CFLs really close, that way it won't stretch, because already it looks really tall, so if it's taller, that's not a good thing, but besides being stretched, it looks healthy so far. Good luck geddaliddlehi.

Hello everyone im glad your all reading my grow. Im up pondering if the seeds I ordered are going to arrive today lol (I am up early as hell gonna be waiting patiently for the mailman) I estimate they will be here today or tommorow so Ill post about that then. Also I went to take some more pics and I cannot get my camera's battery charger to work so im going to stop by radio shack today to get one. I will post pictures later tonight after I get my charger , It will prolly be late tonight because Ive got a training seminar for my job today.

Gedda ,at least its a cannabis plant this time lol , but fo real it is very streched for being grown under cfl's how far do you have the light away try and keep it 3inches or less but not closer than like an inch at that size when the plants bigger youll be able to bove the lights almost touching the plant.
what wattage of cfl bulb(true wattage not equvilent) and spectrum are you using. Also do you have the plant in an enclosed space because if not you should , that way lumens are not lost . (have it lined white or with mylar)
Just make sure you have a pc fan or something as ventalation because even cfl's in a tiny space will cook a plant without ventalation.

Well thats just a small update , wish me luck with recieving my seeds! lol

actually i got it in a small place reflected with aluminum foil, so trust me, that shit reflects everywhere, i just need the time to go buy more bulbs, with Tues being my 21st and all, it could be a couple days. honestly, i'm pretty forked right now, apologies

Well I recieved some of my seeds today some Nirvanna Northern Lights and some freebie NLX. Hopefully Ill get my hashberry and AK-48 tommorow. Heh...

Heres my females: (all photos taken on 4-12-07)

pic #1 is my "finicky indica" plant shes still a little finicky but she is doing ok.
pic #2 is my favorite indica female she is a lil beauty.
pic #3 is my female Sativa bush... eeerrr tree lol...

Sorry about the crappy quality im tired and didnt feel like doing any more photos tonight , work sucks...lol.

Tell me what you all think... I cant wait to pop the new seeds I got im still waiting on 2 more packs(Mandala Hashberry & Nirvana AK-48) but have got Nirvana Northern Lights and Alien NLX so far , but plan on keeping a couple of these bagseed genetic clones of these around (depending on how they smoke)...

I havent got the rest of my seeds yet :( hopefully They come in the mail tommorow , im crossing my fingers. Im probally gonna pop a few of the Northern Lights Seeds got this weekend , Along with a few hashberry (thats if the hashberry come before this weekend).

Looking good r00tdoctor....I wanna see those hashberry's...keep up the update's

r00t...those plants look AMAZING! w007 to you. and now for a more coherent response than my last: i finally got more bulbs, so that one plant has stopped stretching upwards, even got another set of true leaves for a a total of four now. i'm usign this thing i foudn called an "Ott-Lite Plant Growth Bulb" supposed to be just like "natural daylight without the heat." i don't know a whole lot else about it, but it seems to be working pretty good. lastly, since we're using the same soil and fert, when did you start adding fert to your water? my plants will have been in soil for 2 weeks on tues (at least i think that's right) and i'm still using just plain old H2O. and again, those plants...damn, i can only hope i make out as well.

edit: forgot, where did you order seeds from? i've been having trouble finding places that ship to the US.

r00t: your favorite indica looks beautiful. Well, all of them do, but your favorite is my favorite as well. Did you get your seeds today?

Gedda: Wait until your plant has 2-3 more sets of real leaves, then it should be old enough to handle nutes. Can you post some pictures? I'm not that far behind you, so I'm interested in how yours are coming along.

Peace,
horror business :rasta:

Thx for the comlements , The second round of seeds hasnt came yet dunno why but they should be here soon. I will email them if the dont come buy monday but I have faith they will come in the mail saturday or monday. Im really wanting those hashberry seeds!!! I want to grow the Northern Lights (I hope nirvana's NL has the deep piney taste I remember northern lights to have) and Hashberry next so im hoping the hashberry makes it to me with the utmost speed.

Geddah dont fert until your plant is on the 4th or 5th set of true leaves,And only then Fert 1/4 or 1/2 stregth. Also fert for 2 waterings , then use straight water on the third. And dont overwater , Test the soil with your finger ( even though I can just tell by sight if they need water) but until you know your plants test the soil by sticking your finger down in it to see if it needs watering.

Work sucks lol that is why I havent been posting as much but I have some time off the next few days so I'll post more and such.

I have been putting off flowering my babies but the time is finally near Ive learned alot , and got the rustiness from not growing for so many years out the way. So soon well see how these girls look when there craving male's.

Hey root,
i was wondering about your light fixtures. Im looking to get a similar dual bulb socket. do CFL bulbs fit in standard sockets?

All your talk of Hashberry is making me very jealous, I also will be curious to see how the NLX. Too bad hashberry seeds don't grow on trees!

Where did you order your seeds from I need to get on that here before summer comes.Hopefully one of the job application I've submitted around town here will land me some $. I just can't justify dropping 60$ on 10 seeds right now when I'm so broke because my mom got into some financial trouble due to being unable to work because of a felony charge. 7k on a lawyer better get that shit dropped down, or she can't work in health care ever again in our state.

Anyways in the time I've spent thinking about it all I found these hashberry grows check em out!

United Hashberry Grow Support Thread. - UK420
and
Theory's Grow - Hashberry Utd And Others. - UK420

I can't wait to see what sort of monsters grow from your 600 hps system!!! :jointsmile:

Your Walmart CFL setup has inspired Mista Sparkle to create another design. I've been thinking about a custom CFL setup for clones/veg for a while now. Imagine the components in the crude image below mounted horizontally to a piece of plywood (covered with Mylar)...

hello everyone, ill answer the questions as best as I can , though im tired as hell so I might need to go into further detail when I wake up.

stangle12 : the light fixtures can are simple walmart parts 1)a plug in socket adapter ,2) a y socket adapter and 3)normal "medium base" socket cfl's ( yes you can plug most cfl's that you buy in places like walmart into a regular light socket because the bulbs have built in ballast) 4) cheap extension cords it requires no wiring just plug and play lol.

KL4D4: hello again , I got my seeds from aliengrowshop. The hashberry + shipping is about $25 bucks, not bad plus aliengrowshop ships there seeds in the unopened in the original breeder packs which is good because you know your getting the real deal. Heh thanks for the hashberry links ive bookmarked them , and yes once I get the hang of the 600 watt im sure ill be able to create some sort of monster. Im keeping clones of the sativa and my fav indica plant around , and now that I know how to take care of the fininky plant I might keep her around too lol they all are looking nice,alot better then I hoped for when I started growing again. But I will fine tune things as you can see ive been doing throughout my grow, gradually getting more equip / ect . Soon ill be were I want to be in growing , that still some time away but after This first harvest and I have my mothers and start selecting mothers from the hashberry/nl/nlx/ak48 ill be a happy grower. I think im gonna do the hashberry and northern lights first. Dunno but definetly hashberry and something. That was a lil rambling lol but im high so I hope you understand.lol

Mista Sparkle: that will work let me see how it turns out. Im sure you'll be happy with how cfl's vegg plants. Im glad ive inspired someone,lol.

New pictures soon? Have you started flowering them yet?

k. so my "good plant" is now up to 5 sets of true leaves, but 3 are just starting and still very small, so i'll be holding off on the fert for a little while yet. however, my other, slower, plants has met...i dont' know. when i went in to check on them just now it was laying on its side in the dirt. the top portion, where the second set of true leaves had just become as big as the first, had been severed from the stem. my first suspicion was bugs, but there were no bites in any of the leaves or anything, it had just been detached, so i'm not sure. also, there's still about 1/2 inch of stem sticking out of the dirt, i'm pretty certain this plant is now dead, but just in case is there any chance of new leaves budding from the stem, or do i pull it and drop a new seed? lastly, any ideas on what caused this and how to stop it from happening again? my "good" plant is untouched as far as i can tell.

can you post pictures?

Man sometimes shit just breaks and luck isnt on your side lol , ive had to work on my car the last few days its been making me not have very much time to post on here but now it should be in working order. First a coil spring broke , and I had to fix that. Then The tire went flat so I put a donut on that,that went flat also lol , so had to go get a new tire today so now it should be ok hopefully.. lol

I did some minor lst to my sativa giant (member invision recommended it to me) nothing major just trying to get her ready for flowering maximising all those side bud sites shes grown , pics will follow. The finicky bitch indica plant isnt looking so bad anymore she's looking actaullty well now. She only likes ferts about once every 4 feedings and thats half strenghth fert. Were as my my sativa plant likes ferts about once every 3 feedings. And my favorite indica plant likes ferts three out of four feedings lol. All the plants got many preflowers on the as they are quite mature plants, and I can tell they will prolly switch to the flower phase just fine.

horror business: Ill post some more pics soon,along with some pics of my clones, and how the whole grow area is comming along. I would rather do it in daylight better because the pics will come out better with my camera. I havent started flowering because with my car probs I havent had a chance to go to walmart/lowes and find a squirell cage fan and piping for the 600 watt bulb as the ventalation I got for it now just wont cut it for the 600watt. Plus I need to make sure the flower area is light proof which I plan on doing this frid/sat. I have family comming over saturday so I will prolly get working on the final touches on the flower chamber sat night. And start flowering them right after that. Ive got the timer, flowering fert's n everything else ready to go though.

GeddaLiddleHI , its hard to say what chopped your seedling down maybe a carpenter ant?? or do u have any children / siblings / mother who could be trying to put an end to your project? hard to say what caused it without a pic then it still would be hard. Yes id say pop a new seed, you can reveg a mature plant with very little leaf structure but that is because it has a good root structure, your plant prolly has a small root structure so id say just pop another seed if it had a leaf or two id say let it live lol but since it dont just pop another.

Heres a pic off all my new seeds for the people who havent seen the thread I started in in the seed section of this site. I scanned them with a scanner I think the scan came out good.

Hey Doc, wow ur girls look amazing:jointsmile:
Thanks for the tips on chat:thumbsup:
any more pics?
:rasta: :rastasmoke: :smokin:

yeah, actually i'd say carpenter ants, i know they're in my house. as for someone trying to get rid of my plants, well there's just my mom, and she ate some of the "special" brownies i made on 4/20 with me, so i don't think it's her. anyways, here's the pics horror business requested like...weeks ago.

i figure the plant is a little over 3 weeks now. also, i'm not sure how early you can sex them, but i think it's female based on what i see at the branch splits. that's what the second pic shows, the little (what i think are) female parts that are on each split. if i'm wrong, let me know...