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Sorry, but you are incorrect on that statement. It will be read there. And that's the only place it can be read, considering the sorts of flaming insults it's already generating. It can go to politics, where I'll merge it with that other one I transferred, or it can be taken down completely. Your choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNiner
Alright, BlueCat getting all into yelling at you for not enlisting and being kinda too enthusiastic was a bit far, and the racial slur was TOO Far...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
But that is just scary. Seriously, that's creepy. If the government comes to you, and you have to pick between them and your family, you pick the government?
*shiver* ew.
I don't think its cute, and you need to stop being so god damn judgmental for fucks sake. I said what I think of the war and thats that. Our president is a fucking retard, enough said. What the hell can any of us do to stop a big plan already in motion? We can't to shit but bitch and whine at our government who shits all over us. Why do we have to get so mad at eachother over everything? Everyone has their own opinions and we shouldn't shit all over them for having an opinion different from ours. Just stop tearing into other people like Bong or me, why you got pissed at me I don't know. Maybe because I didn't state it in an educated or politically correct way?
THEN SIGN UP don't give me any of that bullshit. YOU ARE A FAKE. My HUSBAND went to Vietnam and so did my dad. You love YOU and the little war games you play on your video game. This is real life. Be a man and join up if you agree with what the president is doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
Umm... the fuck?
Christianity does NOT oppose war. The Crusades? The constant warfare in the Old Testament? Have you even read the book of Revelation? Jesus came to baptize with the Holy Spirit and with FIRE. So what if he doesn't want to join, maybe he can't. People have families to raise, but they can still support what America is doing. Personally I have no fucking clue on what to think about this, but if people join the army they KNOW what they are putting themselves into. It is not forced, this isn't a draft. You can't blame the government for when a soldier dies in combat, soldiers know the risks that they are putting themselves into. They are fighting and dying so that all Americans can live in freedom, and yes, not joining the war does not make you un-American. Hell, you can even oppose it and still be American. Freedom of speech and protest. The very foundations of this country.
Those who care about peace and freedom are those who truly love their country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
Advocates of death and oppression? PLEASE stop usurping patriotism.
This country was founded on some of the greatest principles this world has seen. Unfortunately, most if not all of our leaders have not lived up to the standard set. Our current administration has done more than fail to make America a better world leader. They have ruined America. They are no patriots.
You are no patriot.
I was waiting for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
My point is that not everyone on this site browses through the Politics forum. Some things are too important to leave for the minority of forum members interested in world affairs to discuss for themselves.
I made this thread not to have illiterate 40-year-old men call me a 15-year-old America-hating socialist.
I made this thread in the hope that people who don't usually look through the Politics forum would see it. It was less for political discussion and more for public knowledge.
Anyway, rules are rules, I understand.
Amen
in my honest opinion i feel that religious believes have nothing do with it i believe in karma what comes around goes around and i fear world war III is not far off and it will be strcitly nuclear. As for this is will be bad as in the cold war russians had enough snice not to use them but i feel with iranians and koreians they might not have that good sense and i really don't want the war to go to hell though this so we should pull out and let the middle east deal with themselfs and if they come near the U.S. then bomb the hell out of the but as of now we have no business over there. As the person a few posts back said maybe saddam was what they needed to keep the middle eastern people in line. Sand nigger is a racist term and i feel that was exactly one of the main reasons there is some much hate in the world. People are judgeing people before they get to know them and that is wrong. But what do i know i am just a little immature 16 year old so i must not know what i am talking about .
Your Husband and Dad came home.............Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
You and mickey moore and cindy sheehan great americans.........
see at 16 you think you know shit but you dont................Quote:
Originally Posted by sirkills
you know, spanking your monkey not politics...............
I have t shirts older than you...............please...
BB has Douche bags older than all of us.............LOL that was good
Childish insults! Continue, please. It's all I've ever heard out of you. Your insinuation that he's 16 is only going to make people think that you're the teenager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
You certainly sound like one, my friend.
If you'd like people to pay attention to what you say, to take your angry diatribes seriously, and who knows, maybe even agree with you...I recommend you stop dodging the issue with what are really quite juvenile insults.
Well said! After that speech Bush gave and the grilling Rice got if anyone still supports this war they have to have serious psychological problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNiner
And couch potato..I believe it to be hypocritical to speak of Jesus and war. Jesus spoke of Peace. I have read the New Testament. You can't take it out of context unless you believe this to be the RAPTURE spoken of in Revelations. I am not going to let some religious nut take my country down.
I dont belive in the virgin mary....I am a religous nut
I believe we can win the war aginst radical islam....im a warmonger
You guys are dumb as Mud....
Like I have said
I would rather be my kind of smart than your kind of DUMB......
i say fuck bush and his shit, there is several of us that (for months) have been trying to spread the msg. of bush being a america corrupting retard facist and no one would listen.... well i hope this opens your ears now.....
we need to throw a cocktail at that fucker....
but im not going to argue over political matters...
this govt. can only be fought with force, and that takes numbers and according to the bible we cant fight this shit anyway........
speaking of the bible...
remember revelation talking about a chip under your skin.....
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com
A NASDAQ-traded company has finally unveiled its long-touted and highly controversial "Digital Angel" -- a subdermal microchip implant designed not merely for keeping tabs on pets, but for widespread, worldwide use in tracking human beings.
The high-tech device, engineered by Applied Digital Solutions, Inc. had its debut Monday before an overflow crowd of more than 300 invited guests at Cipriani 42nd Street in New York City.
The audience included U.S. Secretary of Commerce Norman Mineta, who addressed the crowd, as well as other government officials, potential joint-venture/licensing partners and press representatives.
Richard J. Sullivan, Applied Digital Solutions' chairman and CEO, waxed eloquent about the market potential of Digital Angel, claiming the company has "uncovered a total marketplace that is conservatively estimated to exceed $70 billion."
Randy Geissler, chairman and CEO of Digital Angel.net Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary, zeroed in on potential applications.
"Our analysis shows that we are well-positioned to move quickly into certain applications while developing a number of others. Two areas of particular interest are in the healthcare arena," he said, "monitoring heart disease and respiratory disease patients." The tracking and monitoring of pets, he added, is also "right up our alley."
The demonstration, which was conducted by Dr. Peter Zhou and Dr. Keith Bolton, showed how Digital Angel "can be used to monitor a person's key body functions -- such as temperature and pulse -- and transmit that data wirelessly, on a real time basis, along with the accurate location of the person, to a web-enabled ground station or monitoring facility," according to a press statement.
The technology consists of a miniature sensor device, designed to be implanted just under the skin, that captures and wirelessly transmits the "wearer's" vital body-function data, such as body temperature or pulse, to an Internet-integrated ground station. In addition, the antenna receives information regarding the location of the individual from the GPS satellite. Both sets of data -- medical information and location -- are then wirelessly transmitted to the ground station and made available on Web-enabled desktop, laptop or wireless devices.
A more sophisticated version of microchip technologies currently used as electronic ID tags for pets, Digital Angel is powered electromechanically through muscle movement, or it can be activated by an outside monitoring facility.
As WorldNetDaily has reported, in addition to locating missing persons and monitoring physiological data, Digital Angel will be marketed as a means of verifying online consumer identity for the burgeoning e-commerce world.
In August, Sullivan told WND, "We are currently talking to a watch maker who is interested in placing the device on the back of their watches." He added that "technology is being developed that would allow Digital Angel to function from the back of a cellular phone, transmitting bio-sensor information when carried by the user."
And in an interview last March, the chief scientist, Zhou, told WorldNetDaily he believes the implant will be as popular as cell phones and vaccines.
Digital Angel "will be a connection from yourself to the electronic world. It will be your guardian, protector. It will bring good things to you," said Zhou.
"We will be a hybrid of electronic intelligence and our own soul," he added.
Well, Lucky and Blue, you two have this guy handled >> If anyone's acting like a 15 year old it's him... I thought he was an OK member of our forums but this is ridiculous...
the first thing i said was in my opinion as we all have opinions we are entitled to have our own and yes i may be 16 but i am probley the only 16 year old at the moment talking about poltics with people 10-15 years older than me and know at least a little bit about what i am talking about and at least i am mature enough to talk about what matters in this debate not talking about weather or not a 16 year old masturbates but idk maybe you should grow up a little bitQuote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
Off topic a bit, they're discussing the President's Plan on the Daily Show >>
How about these quotes can you guys believe it? Even from Hagel!
"I have to say, Madam Secretary, that I think this speech given last night by this president represents the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since Vietnam," announced Hagel, who earned two Purple Hearts as an infantryman in that war.
"I've gone along with the president on this, and I bought into his dream," Ohio Sen. George Voinovich added a few minutes later. "At this stage of the game, I don't think it's going to happen." Minnesota's Norm Coleman seemed to agree: "The cost is too high," he said of the plan for more troops. New Hampshire's John Sununu expressed mild disappointment. Added Alaska's Lisa Murkowski: "I'm not convinced, as I look to the plan that the president presented yesterday, that what we are seeing is that much different than what we have been doing in the past."
Skrills please accept my appoligy you are right my anger was directed toward other member and you walked in the crossfire.... Sorry
But remember I was 16.....have you been 36?
All you need to worry about is getting a great education and getting a great job.....
Keep toking.........peace.
Yeah...I'm a bit disappointed too. Not surprised though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Awesome
I dont care about being OK to anyone but my wife and kids.......( and BG...lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Awesome
My opinion is as Valid as any other, just cause you dont agree.....
hey shit happens but getting mad at other people about their believes or opinions is just a waste of time as the only way to get people to think a like is to thoughly convence them to understand your point of view. I plan to be 36 at one point and as i have no idea what it is like i can not tell you what to say or think but that is all a matter of opinion
Im dissapointed that our public schools are tuning out socialist like you guys.......Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNiner
IE jay Bennish goggle him, you guys and gals would love his class
I was a crazy skate punk kid.... now im a old neocon.....LOL times change youQuote:
Originally Posted by sirkills
This is good.....
An AP-Ipsos poll found approval for Bush's handling of Iraq slumping close a record low of just 29 per cent. A full 70 per cent opposed sending more troops.
Brain washed by left wing propaganda you dont even know it you call it the daily brain washing......Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Awesome
30% that dont want to wear berkasQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
70% do..........
I'm sorry, but it seems to me that you're the one whose public education failed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
And no, I'm not just talking about your horrendous spelling, grammar and punctuation.
So you don't care about anyone but your wife and kids?
That explains a lot.
It explains why you don't care the 3,000 American dead, and the thousands and thousands of live American soldiers who have served 3 tours in Iraq and are being called back for a 4th.
It explains why you don't care about innocents.
It explains why, when faced with rational arguments, you resort to ugly little insults about age, about sexual activity, and my favorite: "You hate America."
Humor is left wing propoganda?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. You make the worst assumptions I've ever seen. Please, just leave, you're making things painful.
I hear you. I truly do. And I not only understand the motivation, I agree with it--the importance of getting more than the opinions of the older seasoned politicos in residence. Sadly, those folks are accustomed to fighting pretty dirty, and that's really the reason it has to go into that forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNiner
I also agree with you on the illiterate 40-year-old man thing, too. The debate would somehow make more sense without that overemotional anger and instead with thoughtful consideration. Oh, and he's not yet 40, actually.
One thing you can do, if you'd like to, is put a little promo thread on the main forum urging people to check in with the latest thread in politics and give their opinion, even if they don't normally frequent that forum. Then you could link it . . . That would help drive them there from the main lounge, and I might even come after you and add a little disclaimer that it contains some heated debates. I could also create the promo, too, if you prefer. Above all, I want you see that I think getting those younger opinions is important, too, and that I truly didn't move this thread over some arbitrary "mod power" decision.
Why don't you read this Bong you might enjoy it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
How public education cripples our kids, and why
http://www.spinninglobe.net/againstschool.htm
Thanks BG.... your great
Do i have to take name calling from you.....
I was trying.....im done
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
you guys would love this guy
Jay Bennish is a social studies, American history and political geography teacher at Overland High School in Aurora, Colorado. He joined the faculty in 2000.
On February 1, 2006, student Sean Allen recorded one of Bennish's lectures on his iPod. Allen took his objections regarding Bennish's class to the media, and this developed into an international story.
Contents [hide]
1 The recorded class
2 Media reaction
3 Inaccuracies in the recorded lecture
4 Aftermath
5 External links
[edit] The recorded class
After being prompted by students to talk about the State of the Union Address given by U.S. President George W. Bush the previous evening, Bennish suggested that Bush's tone was "eerily similar" to that of Adolf Hitler's speeches (in that both were very ethnocentric), and that capitalism was "at odds with human rights".
Bennish also posed the question, "who is probably the single most violent nation on planet Earth?", concurring with a student's response "we [the United States] are". He encouraged students to consider how other nations might see the United States and its allies, suggesting that "to many Native Americans [the American] flag is no different from the Nazi flag," and that Palestinians see the Israelis as "the real terrorists". Speaking about the U.S. "war on drugs" in Colombia, he made a reductio ad absurdum argument suggesting that other countries might have reason to drop chemicals on U.S. tobacco fields "to destroy the tobacco plants that are killing millions and millions of people in their countries every year, and causing them billions of dollars in healthcare costs".
The recording ends with Bennish saying, "I'm not in any way implying that you should agree with me. I don't know if I'm even necessarily taking a position. But what I'm trying to get you to do is to think [â?¦] about these issues more in-depth, [â?¦] and not just to take things from the surface. I'm glad you asked all of your questions, 'cause they're all very good, legitimate questions, and hopefully that'll allow other people to think about those things, too."
Sounds like a great idea Birdgirl....
I am sorry but I can't help but get emotional and I honestly can't understand others not being emotional. If you are paying attention how can you not get upset?
If your not mad your not paying attention
bong 30 where did u find that story? that looks very interesting and i would like to read more into it
Google Jay bennish.... wikipidia...
our kids are being brain washed and they dont know it....
you dont know it
well we finally agree on something but that was written by John Taylor Gatto he taught in NY city and he wrote The Underground History of American Education.
I get upset over it but what can we do?