Hey Turtle OH thanks for the cool tube offer but I already have one running:o
So how are things running :confused: I'm just waiting another 3 months for harvest:mad: Oh well talk to you soon
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Hey Turtle OH thanks for the cool tube offer but I already have one running:o
So how are things running :confused: I'm just waiting another 3 months for harvest:mad: Oh well talk to you soon
Hey Buk :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by BukDatAss
Hope you're doing good! :dance:
Things are running pretty much Ok... Very fun growing!
I'm uploading some pictures...
1st one is just for you... :thumbsup:
2nd one is an "after-training" picture of the right hand side plant. A couple of branches are "weaved"/trainned into the the screen, but others are just tied down with some twine/string.
3rd picture is an overview of the setup. I'm itching to hook-up an a/c unit into that cabinet... I just can't stop it... it's just, like... obvious. a/c... cabinet... cabinet... a/c... a/c + cabinet... cabinet + a/c...
hmmmm
Hope you all like!,
-turtle420 :cool:
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YES YES I'm loving where this grow is heading........ Man things do look really good. You said AC how hot r ur temps? Man I really wish I could add an ac but I cant:( I gotta keep it stealth:(
So how far along are you ????:confused:
THEY"RE ALIVE!!!!!!
My temperatures (during daylight for the girls) more from 84ish to 89ish...Quote:
Originally Posted by BukDatAss
I think I'm done man... I just can't take it anymore.
muuuust.... conneccctttt.... aaaiiiRRRR conNNNn.... uuunnniiittTTT.....
I turned it ON the other day, and the temps went to the 74s in like, 15 minutes...
muuuust.... conneccctttt.... aaaiiiRRRR conNNNn.... uuunnniiittTTT.....
They'd better be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
lol Thanks for posting gK...
BTW: Can you check post #35, this thread?
What should I be giving the small mothers? They're not dying, but, they're not growing either. :confused: :confused:
Peace and love to all,
-turtle420 :cool:
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DAmn I envy you and ur damn AC... Thats crap, I want to do that so bad but I cant damn it:( Anyway things are pretty good over here....... Keep up the A+ work:thumbsup:
Turtle, can you post how you made the water in your reservoirs flow into each other. Just basically how is it setup and what kind of pumps you are using?
I'll post update pics tomorrow... girls look lovely... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BukDatAss
A resounding yes to both bIdo... tomorrow...Quote:
Originally Posted by BlazeIdo
I'd like to do it today, but I ain't at my computer... don't have all the pics... besides, I have something to do tonight! Write up tomorrow's post! wuhuuu!!!
Haha!
Ok man, no problem... I'll post stuff up ASAP. :)
Peace and love BiDo,
-turtle420 :cool:
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Turtle my god you have one of the coolest looking grows i have seen in a cabinet and im not bsing :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :smokin: plus the amount of work you put into your grow really shows how much you love marijuana :D
Hey BlazeIdo,Quote:
Originally Posted by BlazeIdo
Man, I'm just going to post... because I haven't done shit with the pictures I wanted to upload... with water flow diagrams and stuff...
Anyways, here's a good (I hope!) explanation:
The middle bucket is the "rez" bucket. pH sensors and water pump are in there.
Water pump goes out of middle bucket on top, and divides on a T.
One hose goes to the top of left bucket, other to the right bucket.
The mix goes into the buckets, mixes some more, and circulates through the lower hoses back into the middle bucket.
A small cycle.
There are airstones in all buckets... two air pumps in total.
If you're going to try something similar, I would suggest you place 3 or 4 hoses at the bottom, to work as returns. Or much simpler and elegant would be to place one bigger diameter (1" or 2") hose connecting the side buckets to the middle bucket.
The pump I have is a small $30 Home Depot 180GPH pump... but it flows pretty good.
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Dude, bIdo... does this help? Questions? Comments? Ideas?
Go for it dude!! Build your own... with your own modifications... shitloads of fun! I promise.
Thanks SandMan... :) Thanks for posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Th3 sand m4n
This will be my 1st ever harvest... let's see if we get to that... hmmm... home grown buds.... hmmm.....
Will try to update tomorrow... much peace to all of you,
-turtle420 :cool:
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hey wassup fellaz bkskillz back in hurr turtle still no harvest bro????damn at this rate your gonna be smoken from these plants by the time my son finishes college jus fuken witcha bro kinda hard finden your thread with all these new post comen up all the time was good big buk howd them clones turn out? you know i got ur message like a week after ur visit bro smh fuken women yo anywayz my ladies is doen alright na'mean got some new tomatoe seeds germing as we speak maybe i'll start a new thread one of these days keep a eye out for it...skillz out-i'll holla
Thanks for the explanation turtle, very helpfull
Turtle, I was thinking with a little more depth in a cab those buckets could be set in a triangular postition with the rez bucket being the front of the triangle to maximize the light efficiency of a small hps . Just an idea. Are you planning on scrogging right over the top of your rez bucket?
Turtle, Do you think 1 gallon buckets would be an OK size to use?
ROFL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkillzRemix
Ahahahaaaa.AAA... I just cracked up at this one dude... ahahaa!
Keep checking back bro... it's gonna be fun!
Good to see you man... take much care over there in your part of the world... :)
Good vibes to you Skillz... :thumbsup:
No problems with the explanation dude... glad to be of service :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BlazeIdo
Initially, I thought that the triangular pattern for the buckets would be the way to go... but, then I ran into what you're mentioning; the cabinet wasn't deep enough.
But yeah, the triangular layout for the buckets would be better.... I would think.
As to the SCRoGing over the rez bucket: Hell Yeah! :dance:
All the screen should be green... in my dreams... lol !
REgarding the 1 gallon buckets, : I'm sure the plants will grow... it's a weed... but I'm sure it'll preffer a bigger bucket... definitely.
But 1 gallon "will" work.
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Hey people, I'm gonna go roam the boards a little ... :)
Peace and love to all, and lots of smoking rastas :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:
-turtle420 :cool:
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hey turtle, im not sure if youve addressed the question, but how much did you spend on your setup total? it looks awesome man
Too much money man... too much... of there is such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by homestar
I can't tell you a solid number, because there's stuff that I've bought, and I don't use... stuff that I use, but isn't on the pics... etc.
But, from the cabinet, a ROUGH estimate... would... be.... eee..... $1,500???? :confused: :confused:
Now, that was a 20-second thought estimate... so, take it lightly. I'm sure you can do it for less... and I'm sure there's a superhero out there that "can do it" for $80... fine...
Anyways man, hope that helps! :)
Thanks for posting!
Sup Turtle I havent been on like I used to, but likes seem Ok so anyway when we gonna "game up"?
Dude... I've got terrible news... awful...Quote:
Originally Posted by BukDatAss
[align=center]I have no internet!
:eek: :eek: [/align]
I have no idea how people lived pre-internet age.... The Middle Ages??? How the heck?
But soon... maybe... soon... maybe.... I miss Halo on xLive... :(
I feel like... :sadcrying
Hope you're doing good man... take much care :thumbsup:
And remember to always :rasta: up.
Peacezzzzz.... :smokin:
Turtle, how are you running your AC in your cab? Is it mounted into it? Do window air conditioners need to be mounted intbetween to areas (for instance the outside and the room its cooling) to work, or can they just run and cool air sitting in a room. Ive been brainstorming AC's for cabs and I was thinking if the cab was big enough, one of those window AC's could just be installed into the bottom back corner? Would this negatively affect the air for the plants? and would this be considered a good air intake? Peace
Hey bIdo...Quote:
Originally Posted by BlazeIdo
I still haven't installed the a/c unit into my cab... but my setup is going to be different...
I ain't installing the a/c unit "in" the cabinet... I'm leaving it right where it is... in the wall, under the windows. But I'm going to build a box around it... and use fart fans to move air between the a/c box and the cabinet... connect everything with dryer ducts.
As to how to run an a/c in a grow operation... you could turn ON the a/c to cool the entire room, then just have your cab's air intake in to room.
But I would do it: Have the a/c cooling only the cabinet. Closed air circuit... that way, your a/c unit doesn't have too cool *everything* in the room. Which will include loses due to "heat", sunlight, walls, your ballasts... the air coming out of the cool tube (pretty warm)... your computer... your blunts.... etc.
You can do it any which way you like... I'm gonna do the closed-circuit thing I mentioned.
As to the a/c unit at the back of the cab... well, um, yeah... I guess it works. Just, give it more thought... if the looks like it, build it. :D
That's the best way, really...
Peace to you bIdo...
-turtle420 :cool:
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Hello guys...
Just posting some pictures...
I think this is the start of the 5th week of vegetative... I'm not sure... I can check the time exactly later on...
I plan on vegging a little bit more... maybe 1-2 more weeks. There are a couple of "bald spots" in the screen... and if I remember correctly, justAseed had like, hundreds of buds in his SCRoG. So that's what we're shooting for. :)
Anyways, hope you enjoy. All input welcomed!
Second set of pics...
Wow wow WOW!!! guys!
Take it easy with the posts!
You're overrunning this thread!
JESUS!
Easy! Not so many posts! Damn it...
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Ok, UPDATE:
I installed the a/c... :D
Do you see this smiley? :D
Yes? :D
That's me... :D Just like that :D
If you where to meet me right now, you'd basically see this:::
:D
+_+_+_+
The temperatures are ROCKING!
They're over at 76-77 F.
The rez is more or less around there... which is a BIG improvement from the previous 88F readings.
Summer is comming.... and I saw 96.8 degrees in my grow room the other day (yesterday?)... WOW! Too hot for me.
Now with the a/c...
The plants LOVE it!
I swear, I opened up the grow room, and here's what I saw:
[align=center]:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [/align]
All of them smiling... all of them. They where sooo happy!
I'm 12/12ing tomorrow. The screen, I think, has gotten a little itsy-bit overgrow. I thank you all for the input regarding the last pictures... and as many of you commented, it's time to 12/12.
I have to work tomorrow with::: Light leaks.
Nothing big... just, two or three slits of light here and there...
Nothing... hope you all like.
And please... please! don't post so much here guys...
Best to all,
-turtle420 :cool:
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Dude the girls look amazing. How have I not been following this thread. Anyways I plan on doing what you are doing, as far as mothers and scrog go, this fall and have a few questions about some specifics. If you got some time i would love to pick your brain lol. Good work and keep the pics coming bro.....
Dude, that's what this great community is all about... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdzzl03
Ask away man.... ask away...
In all I can help you, I will... :)
GLAD YOU LIKE IT! :D
Since you asked:
I was thinking of putting my mums in soil, just because hydro requires a bit more space(Rez tank and all) at least the way I have been setting up my systems. What is the best way to keep the moms small. I am planning on taking clones every two months. The way i figure 2 weeks to root, the another two weeks to veg, then two months till completely flowered. I plan on cloning every two months, ie... once the first cycle of veg is complete, flower the first batch and take clones for the second batch so they need to get put into flower right as the first batch is done. My grow is stictly for my own benefit, not commercial. The only thing I am worried about is keeping the moms ina "bonsai" state. I am worried that during the first cycle they could outgrow my cab. What do you reccomend? Also do you have any tips as far as scrogging goes? I plan on using the three healthiest clones to fill my cab and then after the two weeks in veg go to flower. Do you think scrog is the best set up or maybe even sog. Sorry if I am rambling, a little sat. night blunt to say the least but I am open to any ideas/tips/suggestions you may have about my fall grow. Being a new grower I am trying to learn everything I can in order to maximize my efforts. thanks for all the help man your post are always informative. Much love- Diz:rasta:
Looks really good. Looking forward to this one!
I would definitely have the moms in soil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdzzl03
The best way to keep moms small.... I don't have that much experience to tell you... I know justAseed topped them quite a lot... and a small pot will help...
But man, my mom is in a 8" tall pot, and she shared that pot with another plant... .even though that's her situation, she's still relatively big. But that's good... because there are shitloads of secondary growths prime for cloning.
To keep her height down, I just LSTed her. I tied her... and re-tied her... and re-tied her. Over and over and over again. She runs both clockwise, and counter-clockwise over the pot... she crosses herself various times.
Her height is relatively small... but she's one big momma.
As to vegging for 2 weeks::: You've got to see what you want to do.
Right now, I'm almost at 60 days of vegetative for my SCRoG.
Why?
Well, the plants simply... well... they don't grow in 5 minutes.
For SCRoG, you should flower (so I hear) when the screen is about 70-80% full. And that "fullness", has taken me almost 2 months. If I would have flowered after two weeks... I don't think I would have gotten "much".
But it depends... because that's talking about SCRoG... if you want SoG... yeah... I think you can veg for 2-3 weeks. Shit... I know there's people that veg clones for 1 week, then 12/12 them.
In fact, I've read of people that veg them for NO time... They just root their clones, and off they go 12/12.
The 2 weeks for rooting sounds about right. From my cloning experience, it's more or less like that. First 7 days, you have root bumps, and small tiny "roots"... by the 14th day, now you've got nice roots.
As to TIMING your second grow's clones, to be put just as you take down the 1st ones... well, of course it can be done. But I don't know your experience level. From my "newb level", I know I'd fuck it up somewhere. Somewhere, I'll fuck up the timing... the cycles... the something.
Of course it can be done... shoot for it!
Right now, I'm just happy that everything is going good so far.
As for the "bonsai moms"... The best I've ever seen, has been JustAseed's moms... they where... like... perfect for such small setups. Short... bushy... healthy... He had tiny ass pots for them... I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was something like 3-4" diameter pots. small... and shitloads of topping/FIMing.
I was doing some bonsai moms... to replace the one I described above... but man, I fucked up somewhere... not sure where... but I fucked up. They died... or they're in the process of dying... sooo... we'll try, try, try again. ;)
I suggest/recommend you LST your original seed mom... that'll keep her down. Trust me, she won't outgrow your cab if you don't let her.
Tips regarding SCRoGing:::
Yeah...
Just go for it!!!
It's really fun man... really fun. Just go for it. I use a 1"-squares netting. Or poultry wire/mesh... or whatever name it has. that metal wire thing that resembles a mesh... that... well, justAseed suggested 1" squares.
He said he tried bigger, but it wasn't as "abilitating" to train the girls. And I think he tried smaller than 1", but it kind-choked them. So I guess 1" is perfect.
SCRoG vs SoG
I don't think neither is a 'better' one.
They're just... different.
SCRoG is definitely for small areas... because training and keeping trainned a BIG area SCRoG will be... ufff... a nightmare man. I've got my hands full with my 5.5sq.ft. area as it is.
I believe SoG would be better for bigger grows... bigger lights... light movers... etc.
But I don't have experience with SoG... just quasi-experience with SCRoG.
Those are just my thoughts. Not a bible.
Hope all this helps Diz... just post questions/doubts/etc... people are SUPER friendly in these boards... there's the occassional asshole... but that's only temporary.
Best to you dude :)
Thanks dog... Great to have you post here man :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdog7000
Best to all of you,
-turtle420 :cool:
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Looking very nice man :)
Thanks LIP my man! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LIP
Good to have you posting here... ;)
Here are some pics for all of you to enJOY!!!
I was going to change the nutrient mix to flowering yesterday, but couldn't,..... I got distracted with, erm, other "stuff".
And when I actually was going to do it, it was around 1am... and considering it takes like 2.5hours to fill my rez, I said "fuck it"... I'll do it today.
PROCRASTINATION: Never do today what you can leave for tomorrow.
^^^ Ok, that's a joke... that's a very shitty way to live.
Anyways, today (hopefully) we change the nutrient mix... re-program the timers for 12/12, and tomorrow at 8am... lights OFF!!!!
Wuhuuu!!!!
Hope you all like, best to all
-turtle420 :cool:
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Dude you have helped me so much. Got a few other questions regarding clones and mothers. What kind of nutes and at what strength do you give the mothers? What is the nutes strength/week for the clones, ie...1/4 strength when roots are formed and grad increase it from there? I searched for justaseeds scrog grow and it was also very helpful, thanks for pointing it out. I plan on building a cloner like his, something small, low budget. I have been wrestling with the scrog vs sog. I like the fact that I could have one mother, take 40 clones and flower them as soon as they have well developed roots. However I also like the way scrog is set up. I think justaseeds cab yielded 12 oz, but it seems like scrog taks a little more work, ie training and vegging them for two months before the harvest. I was reading another post about sog and the were saying that you should try to get between 1/2 and 1 oz per plant and the idea is to have 40 of them. This would seem that in the same amount of time it would take me to veg and train three large clones under a scrog i could already have the sog mostly flowered being that I would put them into flower at around 6 inches with between 20-40 oz harvested. Anyone have any comments, suggestions? Just trying to get some more info. Thanks turtle, loc, jdog, lip, justaseed, and lw for all the information and informative post you guys provide. Keep it up and be easy!!!:rasta:
PS: Turtle the plants are looking sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!
I give my mothers SUPER weak 20-20-20 nutes... but this is now... after they've grown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdzzl03
When they where growing, I would give them Brita-filtered water... SuperTHRIVE, and Schlutz Cactus Juice... it worked fine. They grew healthy and strong. For surely somebody has a better concoction... but that one worked pretty cool.
As for the clones... when I was going to:::
ROOT: Brita-water, just a little SuperTHRIVE
After they had roots, I went straight to General Hydroponics "clones" mix (using, duh, the GH 3-part nutrients).
Just like that... worked fine... :)
It'd be very interesting to see if you do a SoG. I think the only person doing SoG here is Zandor. And I'm positive he'll be happy to see somebody else doing it also. In any event, SoG vs SCRoG... it's all fun. It's all fun. :dance:
But you're right... by the time you finishing filling the screen with the clones in a SCRoG... a SoG grow would be waaay into flowering already. So, yeah, definitely, SoG is faster.
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I'll tell my plants you said they look "sweet". They'll like that. ;)
Ha!
Thanks man... keep us posted on how it goes!
Looking great Mr. Turtle!:)
Seems you're cloning attempts FINALLY paid of fully:)
Good ongoing luck (not that you need it):thumbsup:
Hey Paranoia!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PaRaNoIa
Ahahaha!!! Your post made me laugh... yes... my cloning attempts where... damn... "difficult" to say the least.
But I've got it nailed down now... :) Bubbler cloner... simple.
Thanks for the props man... thanks for sticking around. ;)
GUESS what I'm doing tomorrow...
C'mon! GUESS!!!
I'm going 12/12!!! WUHUUUU!!!
Tomorrow, at 8am in the morning, the girls are going for DARK.
And at 8pm at night, they're WAKE UP time!
YES!!! FLOWERING! FLOWERING!!!!!!!
Take much care Paranoia,
-turtle420 :cool:
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Turtle, i've been reading your "threads" since I found this message board last year and I was going by my other name, and I have to say, you are a testament to perseverence my friend, keep up the good work and positive attitude and keep spreading it around.:thumbsup:
The glory is in the struggle.
This thread is amazing, much information, much interest.
Keep up the greatness turtle:thumbsup:
Man I havent been here in a couple days, too much work/school. Anyway thanks for all the info turtle, I am going to order some beans in the next couple weeks and start planning for the fall. I am gonna have to pick Zandors brain now to find out some info on sog. Thanks for all the help and advice man and I will keep checking up to see how your ladies are doin. Good luck and keep the pics comin -Diz:rasta:
This project, has taken an unexpected twist... very unexpected.
Carry onward with all your grows my dear friends....
I love you all much. :)
Here's the "explanation":::
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...936#post791936
Best to all,
-turtle420 :cool:
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Damn, never got to see a finished turtle grow, well turt, i'll do my best to pick up where you left off.
hit me at [email protected]