unfortunately yes it was the quote about the ged i was quoting.nice try tho.maybe alil:stoned:?Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLocks
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unfortunately yes it was the quote about the ged i was quoting.nice try tho.maybe alil:stoned:?Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLocks
wow.. really? http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ml#post2093184Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
FUNNIEST NEWS HEADLINE of the day from the associated press
Illegal immigrants plan to leave over Ariz. law - Yahoo! News
Illegals decide to leave....because normal laws will be enforced.....I love it.
Its the rise of the FOURTH REICH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhh, run for the hills.
the reason this is a bad law is that it requires police officers to determine the immigration status of anyone who may be suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Any police officer who doesn't do this can then be sued by anyone. The Phoenix PD, who doesnt want this, says they are already ALLOWED to do this but now they are required to, or face civil lawsuits. So now instead of rolling up on the scene and asking "who raped you? which way did he go?", they have to say "Show me your papers!" or face being sued for any dumb fuck who happens to be standing nearby.
When asked to prove citizenship, for any of us born here, a DL is no good, military id, no good, birth certificate? maybe if original and i have no clue where my original is. and I really dont want to carry it around everyday.
My family has been here for 5 generations and now I may be asked by johhny law to PROVE to him that i belong here! I dont fuckin think so.
Do we need to do something about illegal immigration? Hell yes we do, but this isnt it.
Traveling to AZ soon? So what proof of citizenship do you carry?
Same thing goes for a legal resident.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
If you go to cash a check at the bank, do you get insulted when the teller asks for your ID?
If stopped for a ticket, do you get offended when an officer asks for your ID AND proof of your insurance?
When in a foreign country do you get offended when asked for documents you had better possess?
Tough shit if having to cary a green card is such a burden.
And yes, I had a friend went to the jail because there was nobody around that could verify his ID that night. He was riding a bicycle with no light at 1:00 in the morning. Was going home from work, where he had left his wallet.
Which immigrants? The muslim extremeists, the mexican "immigrants", the Chinese prostitutes, the Mariel boatlift crowd, Canadians...?Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
It's posted on the front door for a reason. Jump through the vastly open hoops and you get the prize. Backdoor us at your own peril. Aren't y'all tired of the illegals stepping on YOUR "civil liberties"?Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
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Originally Posted by RedLocks
Tried to rep you bro, but I have to spread it around a bit first I guess.
Since you asked, yes it does piss me off having to provide ID and proof of insurance to the police for every minor traffic infraction. Insurance should not be mandated by the state, nice try though. It is also worth noting I disagree with state issued ID's and social security numbers. The teller analogy is completely off base since we are talking about a private company rather than government. I could easily choose to use another bank if I valued ease of withdrawal over security. There may be a law I'm not aware of requiring banks to check ID's. If that is the case, I think you can figure out where I stand on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
As to the final question, I don't give a shit what other countries do. So fucking what? If mexico decides rape is ok, should we view it the same way? The fact if I'm in Germany and forget my passport in my hotel room, get harrased by local cops, and taken into custody does not in any way justify us doing the same crap.
Again, what difference does this make? That's like saying, "I got arrested for possession so I'm going rat out that dude over there for smoking a joint." How about instead of spreading the injustice to other groups, including illigals, we instead try and change the way citizens are treated by law enforcement and the government in general. There is no reason anyone should be arrested simply for not having an ID on them!Quote:
And yes, I had a friend went to the jail because there was nobody around that could verify his ID that night. He was riding a bicycle with no light at 1:00 in the morning. Was going home from work, where he had left his wallet.
I suppose by that same logic we were completely justified in rounding up the Japs and putting them in cages during WWII, because you know, Hitler was doing it to the Jews.
We know exactly which immigrants. The ones with brown skin that look like they came from Mexico. Don't tell me, "it doesn't say that in the bill." It is clear this entire thing is about illegal mexican immigration, not any other nationality. This is giving the police broad power in questioning people based purely on race. If they see a Mexican, they can easily find an excuse to stop them. It isn't hard for cops to find something that gives them a right to start asking questions.Quote:
Which immigrants? The muslim extremeists, the mexican "immigrants", the Chinese prostitutes, the Mariel boatlift crowd, Canadians...?
"Did you see that dude just stumble while walking, we better go see if he is intoxicated and legal."
How are illegals stepping on our "civil liberties?" Please do explain. I'm extremely interessted in hearing this. I don't think you understand the meaning of civil liberties, because I can't imagine what you are referring to.Quote:
It's posted on the front door for a reason. Jump through the vastly open hoops and you get the prize. Backdoor us at your own peril. Aren't y'all tired of the illegals stepping on YOUR "civil liberties"?
umm yea really i read your post above that 1 then that one and responded.that would make no sense for me to make a comment like i did on that post come on.my bad for clicking the wrong post.lmao i bet your head was swelling big time thinking"i got this white prick now muuhahahahahahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLocks
make sure you come back with some more smart assed shit cause you have a fan boy now.......oh hey blue how ya been?:thumbsup:
typical this is exactly what im talking about so typical.......:thumbsup::thumbsup:;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBlazer
ya tell me about it try going to mexico with no paper work even if you are there legally lmao.i mean how hard is it to pull out your paper work when asked.you should look up the yt vid where the "white"guy was walking down the street and was stopped for no reason and asked where his id was.hell i remember as a 16 year old being out to late and stopped to ask what i was doing and where my id was.i guess only true americans should be the only ones that should be stopped and fucked with by leo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
yea fuck it i say open the flood gates and let all 3rd world people come here and destory the place.i mean what the hell america is going down the tubes anyways might as well let them give it that extra push.
That is the most ignorant statement I have read in a while. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Again, in what fucked up reality do two wrongs make a right? Let's look at it this way:Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Husband "A" beats his wife, but husband "B" beats his wife also. Since husband "B" does a more thorough job of beating his wife, husband "A" is therefor innocent of any wrong doing...
The 16 year old shouldn't be stopped and be required to provide ID for no reason either, why is this so fucking hard to grasp?
The AZ state government and people are pissed. And while, yes, the actions of Arizona are racist and tyrannical (truly, not fake, Tea Party Tyranny) Maybe we should see this in another way: As a cry for help from a lost f##ked child to it's incompent parent. Of course the kid is going to shoot up heroin, steal a car, knock up his girlfriend and set his room on fire. Christ, what else does he have to need to do to get the right attention?
Thanks to the Rude Pundit. I stole this from him. :D
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Originally Posted by palerider7777
I've been fine palerider. :D
Fan boy? Wow. You really have some issues you need to work through bro. :wtf:
wow so what you are saying then is only mexican people get fucked with?i remember being 16 and if i was out past 8 and a cop saw me guess what news flash i got carded.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
ok now past that in what fucked up reality is it ok for the true americans get fucked with all the time but we better not mess with outsiders that come over illegally and do all kinds of dmg then jump back over the boarder and poof gone with no trace.plz explain to me why you think it's ok for people that has done nothing for this country is ok to come and go as they plz and use our tax dollar as they plz?
i really don't see how you are saying 2 wrongs don't make a right? do you know me as an american if i was to go get a fake id what i would be facing if i was caught?then on top of that for everything i used that fake id for i would get charged with that too.so what you are saying is it's ok for people that don't have any stock in this country to come and break our laws as they plz and no one should say anything about it?meanwhile if i was to do a 10th of what these people do i'd be under the jail for life and thats a ok with u?
btw it's odd to see these mexicans always talking about how great mexico is and how great they are yet they want to come here, why?lets see maybe to mooch as much as they can?it's not like the guy in mexico is sitting there thinking man i wish i could get to america so i can help build it up.it's more like this im in this shit hole of a place where my own gov treats us like shit.i want to go to a place where i can stay under ground and noone knows who i am and i can get away with whatever i want.and when im caught i get slapped in the wrist and sent home.
bottom line is if these people really wanted to come here to do good thing and to be apart of america they would do what it takes the right way.it's called earning you're way.so lets not try to get of topic and try to twist things into a race card issue that card has been beat to death already.
really? it's odd you jump in this thread and first post u make is MAN I WISH I COULD REP YA RED MAN YOU DID GREAT THINGS BY TRYING TO TWIST WORDS.as if he really showed me huh lmao i think you are the one that needs to work shit out? i think you just don't like the fact that im calling a duck a duck.guess you don't like being called out so now you will side with anyone that talks shit to me? i bet i could start a thread on how the sky was blue and you would come in and side with the first person that said it was'nt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBlazer
you sure your not a woman?lmao:cool:
really? im guessing you never leave your side of town then?so do you think and a person that has been raised in a 3rd world way of living comes here and all the sudden changes the way they live? hate ta break it to you but i have been all over this country many times.and in many areas and you can always tell what part of town you are in and how people live reflect the way they were raised.wow well i guess this should'nt shock me as americans have been brainwashed for sometime now.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
the funny fact of the matter is if you had brains to do so if you ever sat back and watched people and how they live you can see this.
for instance i grew up in a part of town back in the 80's that was considered to be middle class.it was a nice clean safe part of town kids could play and ride their bikes up to the store stay out past dark walk to school a mile away.
there was a big shopping center with a quincy's steak house, super market and many other stores.in the 90's and as i started getting older i started seeing certain people starting to move out and others moving in.then i started seeing the streets change.i said to myself it won't be another 10 years and this place will be a crime ridden dump.i left that place and my grandma stayed in the house she was left.over the years i would visit and every time i did things were worse.then the last time i went there all the people that lived there"mostly whites" were gone and in place were mostly blacks and mexicans"i know im racist huh for speaking the truth"? anyways all the shops that i used to go to were shut down because of theft and crime.the only store left was a foodlion and it was hanging on by a thread and had to higher a gaurd to watch the place.
all the a+ schools that i went to were dumps and falling apart.
i know the truth hurts but truth is truth. it's weird how america has been taught to trash the truth and look past it.then if someone points out the truth they are trashed and called a racist for calling a spade a spade.
when has it become a bad thing to hold people accountable for there actions???????? instead you jump on the people that had enough with all the race card bs. everyone has to turn there heads and bite their tongue.
this is the reason our country is going to shit.it won't be long b4 it looks like that movie cyborg lmao all im saying is people act and do as they are raised very few step out of that box.
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Originally Posted by palerider7777
Ummm. Redlocks repped me and I just looked for his last post to rep him back. When I couldn't do it, I made a post so he wouldn't think I was "snobby". . .
the rest of your post is your paranoid imagination. :eek:
Wow, could have missed the point more completely? No, it isn't ok for the police to fuck the American citizens, tourists, or illegals!Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Hmmm... again you amaze me with your poor reading comprehension. Perhaps you should have read the previous things I said in this thread before commenting. Most of the damage you refer to can be credited to the drug war. If we legalized drugs, many of the violent Mexicans would not have a need to cross the border illigally and reek havoc.Quote:
ok now past that in what fucked up reality is it ok for the true americans get fucked with all the time but we better not mess with outsiders that come over illegally and do all kinds of dmg then jump back over the boarder and poof gone with no trace.plz explain to me why you think it's ok for people that has done nothing for this country is ok to come and go as they plz and use our tax dollar as they plz?
As for tax doallars. Perhaps you should look a little deeper and consider what taxes should be used for. The fact illegals can even benifit from our tax system speaks more about taxes than illegal immigration. Perhaps if we eliminated the entitlement programs we wouldn't have these problems.
For fucks sake, stop saying the first thing that comes to your mind. This is what's wrong with our nation. Instead of people realizing it isn't right that American citizens can be charged 10 times for one offense, the average American says, "well if the government is commiting this injustice agaisnt me, it's only fair they commit against my neighbor as well." What we should be saying is, "this is an injustice, and I won't stand for the government commiting this act against ANYONE.Quote:
i really don't see how you are saying 2 wrongs don't make a right? do you know me as an american if i was to go get a fake id what i would be facing if i was caught?then on top of that for everything i used that fake id for i would get charged with that too.so what you are saying is it's ok for people that don't have any stock in this country to come and break our laws as they plz and no one should say anything about it?meanwhile if i was to do a 10th of what these people do i'd be under the jail for life and thats a ok with u?
What exactly do "these people do?" Racist a bit?
That is where their families are, and of course they have an attachment to their homeland. They come here to make money, not because they want to fuck this country up. The only reason they are "underground" is because we fuck with them at every possible oppertunity. Perhaps many of them turn to crime because they find it increasingly difficult to find work, given this biggoted attitude and government driven persecution. Grant them amneisty, and let them work.Quote:
btw it's odd to see these mexicans always talking about how great mexico is and how great they are yet they want to come here, why?lets see maybe to mooch as much as they can?it's not like the guy in mexico is sitting there thinking man i wish i could get to america so i can help build it up.it's more like this im in this shit hole of a place where my own gov treats us like shit.i want to go to a place where i can stay under ground and noone knows who i am and i can get away with whatever i want.and when im caught i get slapped in the wrist and sent home.
The "right way" as you put it, is pathetically inefficient. If their families in Mexico don't have enough food, it is a bit difficult to be patient. They want to get over here as quickly and cheaply as possible so they can start sending money back home. I fail to see what is wrong with that. Our borders should be open to all nationalities, all races, all creeds.Quote:
bottom line is if these people really wanted to come here to do good thing and to be apart of america they would do what it takes the right way.it's called earning you're way.so lets not try to get of topic and try to twist things into a race card issue that card has been beat to death already.
Illegal immigration has benefits for Americans as well. If you need to lay a floor and don't have the money to hire a professional, but are to busy or lazy to lay it yourself, you can go to Home Depot and pick up a worker for fairly cheap. Both parties benefit.
In closing, I want to stress the importance of not focusing purely on results. Everyone seems focused on what has happened, what will happen, and what is happening, but rarely do people consider the causes.
Why do we have so many illegal immigrants? Why is there so much violence on our Mexican border? Etc, etc, etc.
It is also worth noting that lax borders to our north are beneficial to drug users like ourselves. Apparently there is an influx of American citizens crossing over into Canada illegally, buying drugs, and selling them back home. When one nation has a commodity that their home country lacks it tends to promote trade. When government debilitates or worse yet, completely eliminates said trade, people are forced to *don't panic* break the law.
The Mexicans are crossing over illegally to trade their labor for money. Americans cross over to Canada to trade money for drugs. My question to you is this, "Which of these illegal border crossings is worse?"
guess i'll call fowl on you too then huh? your ? at the end that is.you just talked about how people don't look at the real issues then you ask which illegal is worse? well from what you said above neither then right?Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
sorry i don't say the first thing that pops in my head. so in your logic their should be no boarders? don't worry our gov is on it as we speak.i can see it now hey we can't take care of half the people that are here now,hey wait i got an idea lets let everyone in the world flock here and that will fix that huh.wow oh wait we better watch out if to many people flock to cali america might tip over....lmao
we should change america's name to burgerking so we can use the slogan "have it your way" except anything after 9 then you only get what ever shit thats left under the warmer.
all i can say is people better live it up this year cause it might be the last year you will be able to.
hey brainiac since you seem to think you have it all fig'd out.this ? is a very easy one for ya.ponder this b4 you respond,tell me how this would work if we open the boarders and say come 1 come all.that would be considered importing people.but for a long time now our gov has been selling us out and all big biz are being exported out.tell me oh great one how do you see that as a good thing?how in your mind does it make sense to allow all these people to come here when most of our jobs are gone.seen places like detroit lately??
i mean i should'nt have to explain economics with the likes of a brainiac like yourself right?
let me guess if we were to allow the gates open our gov would say you know what fuck all that big biz money that we have been paid off by we will make them come home now.roflmao ya ok.
backpedal much? hahahaha so full of failure I don't even know where to begin.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I would say he tries his best but it is appearing it is effortless :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
I should probably begin with making a joke about failure is your excuse, but seems way too easy... :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLocks
You have to understand, it is a scary world when looking at it though a polarized viewpoint, you most definitely have to be a liberal if you do not agree with someone who the only thing in the person observing you is rhetoric and fear mongering comments from Glen Beck rattling around in an otherwise empty skull case. I personally have repeatedly pointed out my personal apolitical stance and that I am guided by intelligence and a moral system and wouldn't even use the Constitution to wipe my ass with, probably about as un-American as they come.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
Yet I can bet he was probably talking about I also. I invited him to explain who these usuall suspect were, even left this thread be for a few days to give him a chance to reply. As per I secret prediction, questions posed towards him were not answered, and the next replies consisted of rhetoric, random links to a story he probably didn't even read, and a stupid comment or two.
You want to talk drugs you can go the fuck away to one of those other sites catering to teens and drug addicts, or to Canada to pick-up more.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
Your insight is flawed and insufficient in depth or scope, and your statements laughable. Your consistent labeling of other members that share a different viewpoint than yours is quite revealing about your personality. Demeaning others does not elevate your status on CanCom in the slightest. As a matter of fact, it shows the rest of us just how immature and undereducated you are.
No matter how much you complain, this isn't homey's back-alley dopehouse. This is a medical cannabis community catering cannabis users. Not the "drug users" like yourself. (your self-admission)
That seems a little bit harsh way to react not to mention uncalled for, what I assume is a misuse of a word saying drug instead of cannabis one time in a post. (all other instances of the word drug were 100% warranted) But as far as his point on violence and drug gangs goes, couldn't be more true. In fact there are so many countries in this world that the majority of the violence and crime can be directly attributed to the so called American War on Drugs..:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
Even the continued addiction to narcotics by illicit drug users in this country is bolstered by American laws.
Whatever. The insults are laughable, your insight flawed and I don't really give a shit about your 'Freudian slip' regarding cross-border activities you may or may not engage in. I've had discussions with your type many times in here, and it all boils down to the same thing...Y'all bore me with inconsistent facts, bleeding heart anti-Americanism, and a basic understanding of politics that can only be called state-sponsored brainwashing. You've lost the ability to think for yourself, and it shows.
And this labeling everyone that disagrees with your half-thoughts...has a name. Howdy Flamer. :thumbsup:
for all the national bitching.....most importantly, 70% of people who actually live in Arizona support the law.
Townhall.com Blog : Jillian Bandes : 70% Of Arizonans Support New Immigration Law
Even the Govenor got a nice boost in ratings #'s for signing the law
Arizona immigration law boosts Gov. Brewer's rating
Let the open border lefties vandalize whatever they want, it just makes their movement look stupid. The only recent protests that looked violent or naziish were the open border lefty protests in Arizona which make the tea party look like an actual tea party lol.
and this morning the white house has taken Immigration reform off the agenda this year.
Obama takes immigration reform off agenda - Yahoo! News
My bad RedLocks, I thought you were Jagged responding, but your defense of his post is equally disturbing.
Sorry for the mix-up.
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ohh ok, dude you blew my mind haha..Quote:
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Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Don't flatter yourself. If we had open immigration everyone wouldn't come. It comes down to free trade. Immigration and Emigration are simply a form of trade, therefor we should have open borders just as we should have a totally free market.Quote:
sorry i don't say the first thing that pops in my head. so in your logic their should be no boarders? don't worry our gov is on it as we speak.i can see it now hey we can't take care of half the people that are here now,hey wait i got an idea lets let everyone in the world flock here and that will fix that huh.wow oh wait we better watch out if to many people flock to cali america might tip over....lmao
You are right our government has been selling us out and you will not get me to defend that, however jobs being imported oversees is not a bad thing, it is simply a trade off. We have fewer jobs in those sectors, but in return we get cheaper prices on those goods. The idle part of the population now have a chance to begin working in a new industry. Also, when we have a trade deficit like you mention, it means foreigners are investing in our economy, which in-turn is beneficial to R&D.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Detroit is a shit hole because of liberal laws and government intervention. Other issues need to be addressed, not simply open immigration. If government would step aside, business would have room to grow and increase the job sector.Quote:
how in your mind does it make sense to allow all these people to come here when most of our jobs are gone.seen places like detroit lately??
Again, you see a problem in our system which surely exists, but instead of thinking about changing that problem, you accept it as fact. I find that sad. Corporate welfare should be eliminated as well, however, simply because our government is run by retards does not negate the fact our borders should be opened.Quote:
let me guess if we were to allow the gates open our gov would say you know what fuck all that big biz money that we have been paid off by we will make them come home now.roflmao ya ok.
Oh please, because Medical Marijuana isn't a drug right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
No, I simply expect people who engage in a debate of this nature to portray a certain level of intelligence in their writing. I'm not here to elevate my status, I'm here to kill time and have fun debating, despite what you may think, I don't stay up at night wondering how popular I am on the internet.Quote:
Your insight is flawed and insufficient in depth or scope, and your statements laughable. Your consistent labeling of other members that share a different viewpoint than yours is quite revealing about your personality. Demeaning others does not elevate your status on CanCom in the slightest. As a matter of fact, it shows the rest of us just how immature and undereducated you are.
What is your point. I'm not even sure what that has to do with anything. I was making a point, which you seemed to miss completely. How about responding to the post rather than focusing purely on the fact I used the "drug" word.Quote:
No matter how much you complain, this isn't homey's back-alley dopehouse. This is a medical cannabis community catering cannabis users. Not the "drug users" like yourself. (your self-admission)
You are officially an idiot. "State-sponsored brainwashing?" I despise the state, as I have made clear before. You are the one who seems to simply repeat the talking points you hear on Fox. To say an Anarchist has been brainwashed by the state is the funniest thing I have heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
Also, please tell me more about these inconsistent facts. Also, thank you for further illustrating how Republicans automatically assume anyone who disagrees with their idiotic ideas is a liberal sheep.
You just labeled me as well, welcome to the club.
Unfortunately, we seem to be the rarity. I have to agree the Constitution is a joke. I have respect for the Bill of Rights, but yeah, I would piss on the Constitution without thinking twice.Quote:
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