^^^^^ It is. The fact is its unpleasant for anyone involved.
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^^^^^ It is. The fact is its unpleasant for anyone involved.
i will be interested to see how it plays out in the next 50 years?
Just making it illeagal staight out means more people die. Cannabis is illeagal, but everyone here smokes it right? The same will happen with abortion, it just means women people love can suddenyl be preyed upon by people you really would rather have them avoid.
who knows?
If a woman is raped, then she should give the child to adoption. Your argument that fetuses are "a mass of cells" is ludacris.
First of all, I dont know what kind of cornflakes you have in Britain with so much profanity.... Hmmmm and about you saying that people like me are the reason no women are on this thread... well, the only people i see on this board are the people on this thread, llamaman, torog, and a bunch of other dudes. Hmmmm maybe cause it's called politics. I know that if abortion is made 100% illegal, then people will find ways to do it on the black market. Well, you could make the same argument about makeing murder or rape illegal. "ohhh, if murder is illegal, then people are gonna do it anyway!!! so lets allow murder in extrenuating circumstances!!!" Make it so if you go and abort you baby in some back alley, then it is considered murder, and she goes to jail, where she can't spread her legs and get preganant again, pumping human scum onto this earth.Quote:
Another fucking idiot. Where did you read that? THe back of a cornflake packet? Stupidity like that is why there are such issue regarding it. You really have no idea do you?
Surprised to see its mainly a male point of view being noted in here thus far. Perhaps that with women being more intelligent they are seeing the stupidity of some of the COMPLETE SHIT being said here and choosing to stay away.
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If you had read the previous posts in this thread you would have seen, I have covered adoption.
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Now lets talk about adoption, I agree with Epic since babies don't disappear when you put them up for adoption. They go to foster homes and the like of course, a wonderful environment to be raised in knowing your parents gave you away and all. These children are taken care of by the state, the state gets the money for it from the people, the tax payers. Then the kid turns 18, hes on his own.
Then they are more likely to commit crimes and have drug problems. Essentially they become a burden to the rest of society.
http://ca.lwv.org/jjds/chap6.html
So they should be forced to carry it for nine months, experiencing all the sickness and pains and mood swings...after she got raped?Quote:
If a woman is raped, then she should give the child to adoption.
Heres a fun fact, the Bush administration denies funding to organizations trying to give away condoms and contraceptives in Africa.Quote:
Birth control is condoms and pills. Not sticking a needle into your developing baby and injecting him/her with poison. When an abortion happens, a human being dies.
Thats just hilarious. Purpose of sex procreation, please. YOU must understand that not everyone believes in your god, the US is not a theocracy or at least is not supposed to be.Quote:
People need to understand that the purpose of sex is procreation. God wants you to have babies. Dont chicken out and have an abortion. There is always adoption.
Note I said why bring another resource consuming unloved human into the world, not another. I said nothing of the ones already with us, because in order for us to help them we need to stop reproducing.
aids infection in africa last yeae was lower than in previous years according to the world health organazation
"Your argument that fetuses are "a mass of cells" is ludacris. "
I didn't say that, reread post. I was saying that at a point in time before its a fetus, its just a mass of cells with the potential to become a fetus/human being.
"If a woman is raped, then she should give the child to adoption."
Its not an easy thing for her to bring that child to term, and deliver it, and why should she have to? They do tests right away after a rape is reported, so they'd know if she was pregnant, and they could terminate the pregnancy right away, before it becomes a fetus.
Now thats just wrong.You will never have a baby inside you.If i was raped and fell pregnant i really do not know what i would do.If you got raped by a big fat dirty sick old man would you really want something from him inside you ? Im sure u will say yes because you a man so u never have to worry in the first place.Quote:
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Here here Jacq ! good call. The irony is smokin you just made the same arguement prohibitionists make against cannabis legalization. "if we legalize cannabis why dont we just legalize rape and murder!" they're completely different issues. Also murder in extenuating circumstances is already legal in many states, ever heard of trespassing laws and "self defense" defense in court when the perpetrator had no weapon.
thats true but in this country its hard to get away with self defence even if someone is robbing your home in the middle of the night armed.If you use a weapon on them they will sue you and its bad but the perputrator gets in less trouble than the person protecting there home alot of the time.I have even heard of men breaking in and braking an arm or leg on the way out and then they sue the homeowner for having unsafe windows or driveway or whatever.It makes me sick that we cant defend ourselves in our own home when we are being invaded.If i had a gun and someone came into my house in themiddle of the night i would use it on them.Not kill them just a few shots in both there kneecaps so they cant walk for a while.If i did that i would probably go to jail just for having a firearm and he would be happy and rich for the rest of his life with the compensation he would recieve.WRONG WRONG WRONG...
yeah, very wrong.
Now I remeber why arguing about abortion is bad... noone ever gets anywhere and it just degenerates into "you're wrong, no U are!"
BTW, shooting someone in the kneecaps cripples them for life. That would be my choice too. Maybe a shell in the stomach
Ooh I like the kneecap idea especially actually the stomach is just as good either crapping through a tube or hobbling for life. Both excellent choices. And, no one can accuse you of murder "I was aiming for his knee I hit his knee its not attempted murder your honour I was simply protecting my family" Even a liberal judge has to admit that makes sense.
Sorry mate, but in the thread RE republicans /democrats, you state you are pro life. http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=15242Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
Whats it to be?
pro choice as always.hard to believe a big bush supporter and republican is pro-choice?
Yes. Yes it is. What with Republicans' "moral superiority" and all... Happy to see not all Republicans are like that, but even you must admit that the majority of them are...Quote:
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
i do agree but i wouldnt say the majority are.you would be suprised.it's just the whacko ones that get the media's attention. :cool:
i am also a republican who is for gay marriage.i think i will start my own political party.no more red and blue,we will be black.
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I can't beleive your inability to notice that.........
I posted this on April Fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA I can't beleive no one figured that out. I am for gay rights, did you think I would be against abortion?
haha, sorry for the hate. I'm really pro choice ;)
LOL
A six week old foetus.
poor little bugger
even looks like a small child to me.sad.
Well it is a small child
No offense but that looks like a big orange blob to me, not a small child. And even if it did look like one, I don't think that would really contribute to the argument.Quote:
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you know what boggles my mind, prolifers who kill doctors for preforming abortions. that and the girl who choked me when i told her I reserve that point of vew for woman to have. that kind of thing hurts my head.
Alright buddy I get it, glad to hear that you're not as mind bogglingly stupid as you first came off as. That being said I don't think that this was a very funny joke, a lot of women go through that situation and its an awful thing to go through.Quote:
Originally Posted by llamaman666
I am completely pro-choice! I've never had one but I'd seriously consider it.
Human, monkey, pig, rat...the fetuses all look alike.
In early stages of pregnancy, the fetus even looks reptile embryos. This is one of the strongest arguments for evolution. Anyway, I personally dont think a fetus is a human being, just as seeds arent plants and an acorn isnt a tree, even though it will become one if it is provided with a suitable environment and nutrients.
I happen to care for almost all life, be it human, monkey, pig, reptile or yes, even rat. No creature that complex, is worthless.
Why not give the babies that would have died to a secret military research lab? Ya know, create some kind of battle-android from the unwanted fetuses of the scum of the country. That way they would finnaly have a use, other than polluting the planet with more human scum!
First you pro-lifers want to force rape victims to carry and give birth and now you want to use fetal-andriods to start more wars?!
Hell yeah, im all for the fetal androids. =P
True. Every foetus that develops is in fact re-enacting evolution on it's own, from a single cell, to a little blob, to a little fish (complete wih gills), to a little reptile, to a monkey with a tail, to finally become human near birth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nullific
That'll get pro-lifers' dander up :D
I'm not a pro-lifer, and I dont believe fetuses are human, but one could say the difference is that the genes in the fetus are already programmed to make humans from the moment of conception, and thats why stem cells from human fetuses are more useful for research than stem cells from other animals.Quote:
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