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You just keep telling yourself that...we have found our candidate. He believes in getting away from the big oil companies and their oil. They want you to believe that's not possible. Brazil has done it so can we.
So.... now you are admitting it was all about the oil?
Good to know. :)
Have you seen any of the articles in the mainstream news (NYTimes, Washington Post, Time, and Newsweek) about the contracts we're signing with the Iraqi government over that oil (and about how that plays into the delay/continuation of this war), BlueCat? France and England and one other country (I can't remember the third one) had agreements with the former Iraq government entitling them to take 20% of the oil for their help/support with extracting it. In the contracts the U.S. and others are currently negotiating, we're asking for 75%. Here's one link:
Independent Online Edition > Middle East
Great article! It has always been about the oil. i don't know what makes them think they have the right to divide Iraq up!
Juan Cole said they have had this plan all along.
BTW A big Helloooo to you birdgirl. :)
"Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister, Barham Salih, who chairs the country's oil committee, is expected to unveil the legislation as early as today. "It is a redrawing of the whole Iraqi oil industry [to] a modern standard," said Khaled Salih, spokesman for the Kurdish Regional Government, a party to the negotiations. The Iraqi government hopes to have the law on the books by March."
So the Iraqi government is for this...........
"Supporters say the provision allowing oil companies to take up to 75 per cent of the profits will last until they have recouped initial drilling costs. After that, they would collect about 20 per cent of all profits, according to industry sources in Iraq. But that is twice the industry average for such deals."
75% UNTIL they have recouped intitial drilling costs. Is that really so wrong considering what it will do for the Iraqi economy?
By the way, I never stated that this war was about the oil. I said that we can't allow these resources fall into others hands. Can you imagine the impact it would have if Al-Quada had access to even 1 mill/bpd revenues?
We walk out of there the price of oil would go through the roof. How much love would the average and lower income U.S. citizen love the Democratic party then? They talk the talk but know better than to walk the walk. Moderate Dems know this.......check out the Democratic Partys stand on the Iraq war. They DO NOT talk of pulling out troops but to redeploy them into training and logistics positions.
Have a good one!:s4:
LOL...we got a bit off topic there..........I hope they do run Obama, or Hillary!:D
Have a good one!:s4:
Obama and hillary are going to sling so much mud at each other...they will look like dirty little socialst Pigs....
he is a piece of shit.....
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bong i think that post you just made was a prime example of why it is hard to take you seriously. you just take a conservative stance on everything, blindly support anything any conservative does even when they are obviously doing shitty, then you assume liberals are stupid and just cant accept it is a different opinion. i can guarentee you would have been a mccarthy supporter back in the day. you have a lot of growing up to do. best of luck :thumbsup:
the man is completely unelectable. most citizens seem to hit the polls with only a cursory investigation of the elements involved. they vote on generalities and appearances. when the voters hit the polls they are going to see obama's black face and his middle name and your average ignorant bumpkin is going to run screaming in the other direction. though a black president isn't out of the question, middle america is going to try and find any excuse not to vote for it and the muslim taint surrounding obama is just what they need. combine those factors with his far left tilt and the fact that he isn't considered black enough to secure the substantial minority vote and you begin to wonder what fool convinced him he has a snowball's chance in hell of occupying the oval office.
though i would love to see anyone but another republican clone in the office in '08, the dems are doomed if they can't find anyone besides clinton and obama. their socialist agenda already has "mom and pop back on the farm" scared shitless and if they can't find a more mainstreamable candidate soon we'll end up with another 4 to 8 years of big business as usual and i'm not sure we can afford much more of this hawkish crap.
oh, and nice to see you're back in action cat. welcome home.
i'm only an aging hippie with delusions of normality, i could be wrong. i'm not, but i could be.
It's a fact we do have a lot of prejudiced assholes in this country, Bong is one shining example, but I'm hoping the collective intelligence is at least 50 points above Bongs and sees the advantage of an Arak Obama as president. The man is intelligent and has a feel for the pulse of the country. Everyone but the most hardline hawks want to pull out of Iraq, they know it is a never ending war. Those radical islamists will fight to the last man. We need to figure out what they want and work with them. I realize there are some that will never change, but those will be killed in time, let them fight each other, we don't need our blood and treasure being wasted over there any more. I still say to all the right wing hawks, "put on your guns and go to Iraq and kick some ass", get it out of your systems, If it doesn't cure you, maybe it will kill you, either way, the country would be better off!
I am not worried about Obama's name. Anyone that is so lame as to have a problem with the sound of his name is too damn stupid to take the time to vote!
And honestly it is the common law of politics if you have detached yourself from the political system of your country you lose the right to bitch. If you don't vote don't bitch it is really that simple.
As for Bong...I really feel sorry for you dear. You must be a really sad person. If I had not read earlier posts about your family I would think you were still in high school.
You have nothing you can really say about Obama so you call him a stupid name like you are still in your high school lunchroom. I wonder if you weren't one of those name calling bullies at school as well?
Really Bong if you want to play with the grown ups your input with have to be a little more than "piece of shit"
You are working to keep this country divided. It is people like you that will destroy our country. We have been greatly divided and we can't heal if we don't come together. Bush has managed to make this nation look like a paper tiger to the rest of the world and as a result we will be challenge in the future.
We have got to get our military back home where they belong and begin to pull this country together to protect what we have here not the oil fields that belong to another country.
Please if you can't say anything constructive to bring this nation together then don't say anything.
We have to pull it together why can't you see that divided we fall?
Just stop. It is very un American to continue your fight to keep this country divided. If you really love your country you will knock it off.