goin to see barack obama today...

[suhl]

some of you may remember i didnt vote in november because i am less than thrilled with how people get elected, and then what actually motivates them while they are elected. the bottom line was and stilil is i believe most people in government care more about just getting elected and holding their position than actually helping people out. I could get into more detail on this buut feel free to look up the old threads because i dont feel like having the same argument a second time.

well anyhow, all that said, i am happy to say i am going to see obama today. i really think this is a guy who actually wants to make a difference. also, he is actually honest about his personal life and past rather than trying to seem like a perfect human being. that is why john kerry was such a piece of shit, he tried to act flawless and no one could relate to him. and he tediousness rivaled al gore. obama admitted to smoking weed quite a bit in his younger years and even occasionally sniffing cocaine. am i saying that that makes him a better candidate, no, but i cant think of one person in the history of government who would have had the balls to come out and admit that. i really dont know much about his political views, i am assuming they are liberal leaning since he is a democrat, but i think i cvan actually get into the man. he thinks people are tired of the political runaround bullshit, and for me, he is absolutely right.

so i am going to go see him announce his canidacy for president today. i don't know how big a deal this is anywhere else but it is huge here. people are all excited because matt damon george clooney and oprah are reported to be milling around. i expect the place to be packed. i also expect it to freezing cold. either way if he ends up winning, and even though it is too early to tell i believe he is the favorite, i will have been at a pretty historic event.imp:

suhl Reviewed by suhl on 02-10-2007. goin to see barack obama today... some of you may remember i didnt vote in november because i am less than thrilled with how people get elected, and then what actually motivates them while they are elected. the bottom line was and stilil is i believe most people in government care more about just getting elected and holding their position than actually helping people out. I could get into more detail on this buut feel free to look up the old threads because i dont feel like having the same argument a second time. well Rating: 5

[Skink]

some of you may remember i didnt vote in november because i am less than thrilled with how people get elected, and then what actually motivates them while they are elected. the bottom line was and stilil is i believe most people in government care more about just getting elected and holding their position than actually helping people out. I could get into more detail on this buut feel free to look up the old threads because i dont feel like having the same argument a second time.

well anyhow, all that said, i am happy to say i am going to see obama today. i really think this is a guy who actually wants to make a difference. also, he is actually honest about his personal life and past rather than trying to seem like a perfect human being. that is why john kerry was such a piece of shit, he tried to act flawless and no one could relate to him. and he tediousness rivaled al gore. obama admitted to smoking weed quite a bit in his younger years and even occasionally sniffing cocaine. am i saying that that makes him a better candidate, no, but i cant think of one person in the history of government who would have had the balls to come out and admit that. i really dont know much about his political views, i am assuming they are liberal leaning since he is a democrat, but i think i cvan actually get into the man. he thinks people are tired of the political runaround bullshit, and for me, he is absolutely right.

so i am going to go see him announce his canidacy for president today. i don't know how big a deal this is anywhere else but it is huge here. people are all excited because matt damon george clooney and oprah are reported to be milling around. i expect the place to be packed. i also expect it to freezing cold. either way if he ends up winning, and even though it is too early to tell i believe he is the favorite, i will have been at a pretty historic event.imp:

Try and hang by the celebs to get on the news,,,LOLz...

I am interested in what he has to say too... I don't think this nation is ready for a woman prez yet,I could be wrong but my gut tells me Obama's got a better shot...

[Iplaybass182]

I am interested in him and my parents are extreme right wingers so i need to know some of his stances so if you have not left yet could you maybe take some notes so I can have some info as what he stands for. Then post it on the board.

[suhl]

im not going to take any notes, it is about 5 degrees out before factoring in the wind chill, but ill tell you what i hear.

and i am not ready for hillary clinton to be president, although i would be happy to see bill back in the white house

[birdgirl73]

Have fun, Suhl! That's great you're going to such a historical event. I think Obama has great potential, and I'd love to get a look at Matt Damon, George Clooney, and her royal wealthiness, the queen Oprah at such an event, too. Be careful in that crowd and that cold! I'm going to move this to politics, although it's really more about your activities than actual politics. If I leave it here, another mod'll come along and move it later anyway.

[suhl]

It was a great speech. He has some really good ideas. He didnt really talk about the issues there so much as the basis of his campaign, which is that government has lost sight of its actual purpose, getting distracted with petty political bullshit. He talked about common people taking back control of American government from lobbyists and special interest groups. He also mentioned bringing back the unity in American politics(and whether you are one of the few people who still support bush or not, there is no way you can deny he divided this country in a HUGE way). His thoughts on ther problems with the government alone are enough for me to vote for him.

Issue type things he did mention was a plan to bring the troops home by March of 08(which I totally agree with, and i dont like the arguemtn well what would happen Iraq would fold into chaos if we left. Theyre in a civil war right now folks, how much more chaotic can it get for a country, that is basically the lowest point a country can hit.) and also he said he wants to push for universal health care(which i also agree with, people say it can never work but it is working fine in other countries, although it is hard too say if it would in a country this size, but really there is no way of knowing until we actually work towards it). Also a big thing for me was that he dint discuss any morral or family values type issues at great length. I believe those sort of issues dealing with peoples private lives shouldnt be a part of the government. this meaning things like abortion, gay marriage, religion, and so on.

He is a teriffic speaker too. Maybe it was just because i was actually there but there really was fire behind his speech. The crowd really got into it. I thought it was better than 90% of political speeches I have seen.

As for the weather i was fine but my toes got cold as hell and even started to feel numb.

Crowd was very large. I was about 200 feet away from the stage but I still had to shift around to see him. Apparently you had to have a ticket to get in so I had to sneak in, which in that sea of people was not very hard. In fact it was a matter of walking past the guy checking tickets and not looking at him. There were snipers all over the place too which is something I have never seen. I saw no celebrities sadly.

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT IN '08

[Its a Plant]

I'm sad I didn't go, but there was no way I was waking up at 10am on a Saturday.

As for the celebrities, I don't think any of those rumors were true at all. Some of the radio stations were talking about it, and they said that someone spotted an Oprah look-alike, when in truth, it was Obama's wife.

They also talked about what Obama ordered for dinner in the hotel last night, as the room service told him they'd literally cook him anything he wanted at any time. The man and his wife order in a pizza instead...

Gotta love Obama baby. ~

[medicinal]

Yeah, I hope he is all that he can be. I'm a little concerned with the race thing, means nothing to me, but those southerners, right wing christian nutjobs, kind of worry me. Hate to see him get elected and taken out by some Nazi KKK guy, I think there are a few on this site.~LOL~

[BlueCat]

I just finished reading The Audacity of Hope! Obama is my man! He will be the man to bring change to this country!

If you have not gone to barackobama.com check it out. In his speech in Austin the other day he said he will introduce a bill to start bringing the troops home MAY OF THIS YEAR! You can listen to it on his website. He sounds so much like Kennedy and MLK.

One of the most important things for me about Obama is he was right when so many in our government were wrong or just went along saying nothing.

This is what he said Oct. 26, 2002:

"I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al Qaeda.






"So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. ... Let's finish the fight with bin Laden and al Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings."


Those words were spoken not in the U.S. Senate, but at an anti-war rally in Chicago. The speaker was not a U.S. senator, but Illinois state Sen. Obama. He began by boldly attacking the notion of being anti-war.
"Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances," Obama said.
He spoke eloquently of the importance of the Civil War, World War II ("My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army.") and the War on Terror.
"After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such tragedy from happening again," Obama said.
"I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war."
What made Obama's speech rather remarkable wasn't just that his warnings proved true. It was that this was a state legislator who had developed a conceptual framework of how world issues are intrinsically linked _ that actions in one place can have far-reaching consequences.
So Obama urged Bush to fight terror by vigorously fighting for nonproliferation and the safeguarding of poorly secured weapons in the former Soviet Union (the Nunn-Lugar program, named for former Sen. Sam Nunn, D-Ga., and Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., who would become Obama's mentor and partner in policy initiatives). He warned about nuclear war between India and Pakistan, and urged us to press Middle East allies such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia to ease repressive practices that turn citizens into "ready recruits of terrorist cells."
On that day, Obama ended his uncommon anti-war-rally speech not with a fist-shaking warning but with a heart-tugging reminder about who would pay the ultimate price for a federal folly. After warning us not to "travel down that hellish path blindly" by invading Iraq without global consensus, he added: "Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain."
Those who were in Chicago's Federal Plaza on that 2002 day heard a voice of experience that was neither heard nor heeded in a nation's capital hell-bent on fighting the wrong war.


OBAMA IS THE MAN!! OBAMA! OBAMA !OBAMA!

[Psycho4Bud]

The only thing is that most of the U.S. realize, or will, that we cannot let the second largest oil producer, the breadbasket of the middle east, be divided between Iran, Syria, Al-Quada and Turkey. We MAY back down to a supportive roll only but we surely won't leave it to the vultures.

The dude is just to far to the left but at least he holds his ground compared to Hillary. The dems have yet to find a legitimate candidate.

Have a good one!:s4: