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Kracks... i love Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas! Hunter S. was an amazing writer. I'm currently reading The Great Shark Hunt and have Fear and Loathing on the Capaign Trail on hold. I just ordered "The doors of perception" from the library, thanks for the advice. Dion, i think you hit the nail on the head, that's a great point!
I don't know if you get the Documentary Film channel (channel 197 here) but there is a great doc that they show all the time called "Hoffmann's Potion." Lots of good insight into lsd and it's medical uses in the beginning.
Tape that doc and make your friend sit down and watch it.
The answer is quite obvious: Trick him into taking LSD by means of food or drink.
That's NOT the answer at all. Never trick anyone into trying LSD for the first time. For the first time the person needs to be ready. If you give it to him when he isn't ready and he just starts tripping for no reason he's going to flip the fuck out. He's going to think he's a schizophrenic or gone crazy all of a sudden and he could have a very bad panic attack. It will be almost impossible to calm him down and there is a chance you'll end up having to take him to the hospital, and u both will be in a lot of trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by eddievanzant
The answer is to educate him on the subject and most likely he will want to try it on his own.
LSD was used to treat Alchohalism, sucessfully I might add. In the 60s.
Tricking some1 into tripping is a BAD idea. A trip is based on the persons mood going into it. A trick trip will end in a person tripping you out w/his/her parinioa or other traits that was never obvious.
The religious impications are easily explained.
In the good old days grains and other foods went rancit often. But, the people still ate it. Halucjins are found in common wheta and rye molds.
I believe if you look hard enough you will find tons of info on this theroy. they have even tried pinning the Salem Witch hunts on bad grain.
I grew up in shroo country(south GA). I ate shroos A LOT. I loved the fact you could eat them every day and get to tripping. Plus no ill side effects. Unles you call a sore side and face musles from giggling and smiling all night and day bad.
alex waiting on the 2nd herring season......I am a fisherman. Please don't take the fishing as troll talk. I love to fish for salmon, hallibutt, cod, snapper, sole, pollock, rainbows, cutties, steelheads...........on and on........crabs 10 different kinds....3 diff kings alone.........mussels, clams, oyssters............I'm hungry............
To the argument that "it's just a hallucination," you can say:
What is the standard you would use for "normal" perception for comparison? Everyone's perception is slightly different, and is continually altered by each food we eat, everything we put into our bodies, the amount of sleep we've had, sex, illness, hormones, physical labor, all the peculiarities of each person's particular physiology... ETC. Remind your friend that your perception is defined by many factors, and you can't separate YOURSELF from those factors, because YOU YOURSELF are that body, you are what you eat, sleep, experience, etc. Think not only foods and the ever-changing chemical states of the brain, but also the emotional filter that we always put over our experience of the world, and it is that emotional layer of personal experience that psychedelics can truly help the most with... by teaching you that you can actually be happy to be alive at each MOMENT of your life, rather than thinking about particular jealous ego concerns.
You can just be absorbed in the life all around you, connected to the reality of other people without forgetting that they "are really in there" and that they matter, they are another pair of eyes for the life of the world to see itself through.
You should say things of this nature.
lol, I could go on and on, but ditto on the Doors of Perception. I also recommend the DVDs "Ram Dass: Fierce Grace" and "Timothy Leary's Dead," if you can find them... and above all the book "Be Here Now" by Ram Dass. I recommend these not just for your friend but for you too.;)
Trichocereus, that was a really good post, got me thinking. I'm definetely gonna use some of that material because it's so valid. I'm ready for another debate now! Keep feeding in your input, this is interesting.
Of course he should informed quickly and taken somewhere where he can't damage anything. Because this dude seems to be so against drugs, the only way to get him to take any would be for him to take a drug unintentionally.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHomie
get him to eat some mushrooms cooked into a pizza. definitely easier and won't freak him out as much. you can eat like one mushroom and feel it, but not totally trip out, but one hit of acid still gets you tripping.
actually don't trick him into eating anything hallucinogenic. thats just wrong. get him drunk and convince him its a good idea.
Not trying to place any kind of a label on you or your post, but many of these principles directly correlate* with buddist ideals. If those did peak your interest skarz might i add reading a book about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trichocereus Panza
Nothing strong if you dont want to, hell i have a book called "the dharma of star wars" ... draws similarities between jedi and buddist monks. I found the star wars to be soooooo in your face (and thats not blasphemous) it was distracting, but the parts that had real substance where very appealing
have a good one
Dion