Calif Cannabis Patient/Activist SEEKS same for NEW CO-OP

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Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust

remember all your investing is your time, equipment and some electricity. if you dont break the law you dont need an atty and bail. here in calif our laws are set in such a way so as the legitimate cannabis patient has nothing to fear.

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Sorry Ziggy, that's not entirely true, either. While California prop 215 and sb 240 provide state protections for qualified med patients and caregivers, there are no federal protections so there is still risk involved, just not nearly as much. That's why clubs have the advantage of being able to open a store front, if they so choose. That said, there are ways of minimizing risk. (for example; keeping plant numbers low, not making obscene profits, not drawing undue attention, being a good member of the community instead of a liability, etc...)

How many ounces a day (avg) do you think the avg med club sells in California, not including edibles, etc? Frankly, I don't know but I'd guess 20+oz/day. The bigger clubs might do 100+oz/day for all I know. Does that sound about right or am I WAY off? Anybody else want to guess?

Change your mind already? ;)

its that much because 99% of the people that buy weed from these "medicinal only" shops have no medical condition at all. Its just a ploy by potheads to smoke pot.

That many have no condition is beside the point. They still have a dr rec and are therefore legal potheads so the price *should* be cheaper. You want to guess how many oz/day the avg med shop sells? ;)

Now there *is* an argument for keeping the price at street levels to prevent "members" from buying cheap and selling on the street for a profit. I've heard that some LEO/local gov requests (or demands in some cases) that the prices not be too low for that reason. That problem can be managed without keeping the prices high but it takes more work and less volume. I guess it depends on your motives.

It makes me sad to think that something like a plant that god himself, planted for all to have , as become a feared and forbidden fruit.So many people could benfit from it. Does seeing what can become possiable, make us daydreamers, or fools? Has it become such a bad thing, to want to help those poor souls, with something like PAIN? HAs it. Does it make you a fool, when trying to help. Or when u don't help at all. To hate is to fear. To give up both, and you have, what? Then again, what the Fuck do I know.

Amber, I think we all agree that it is medicine that could help a lot more people than it currently does, but you can't expect everyone to be able to help. If everyone could help nobody would need any. We all have our limitations. What did you have in mind to help? ;)

Limitations. Think of all the things marijuana,can do. Think about all that money, lost to all that Hemp. growing everywhere, suppling, supporting, and allowing so many areas of life, worldwide. Imagine that. Weed doesn't have limitations. Either do we. AS a whole, not just acouple. Im just a girl , who loves marijuana. And i'm Proud of it. So u let me know what i can do to help. HAve to give I n order to Get....

Sorry Amber, but that's a little too idealistic and I'm a little more realistic. Marijuana and people do, indeed, have limitations. That's not to say that people or mj have seen their full potential but that's another story.

Oh, I bet you're more than "just a girl that loves mj" see how you just limited yourself, right there? ;)

As for what you can do, that's completely up to you. You can vote and write legislators, you can educate, you can participate, you can create and support. Unfortunately, part of the problem is internal, we've got a bad image problem and some "advocates" actually do more harm than good by driving away those that could be educated and turned into supporters. That's really another thread but being a positive image is something else you could do. (I'm not saying you're not, just making a point)

Actually, IMHO, if you give in order to get you're not giving at all, you're investing. Giving expects no return nor reward beyond personal satisfaction. :D

i'D just like to say good luck :)

Well Ziggy said he was going to post 2 weeks ago but he hasn't so maybe he's decided there was more too it than he thought and gave up on his idea. ;)