Media and the war.

Yip, 9-11 never happened, London subway never happened, the attack on the cruise ship never happened, NOTHING is going on in France to speak of.

I do agree with Torog on the media influence. During WW2 you wouldn't find a news reporter looking for our troops flaws over that of the enemy. :rasta:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Yip, 9-11 never happened, London subway never happened, the attack on the cruise ship never happened, NOTHING is going on in France to speak of.

I do agree with Torog on the media influence. During WW2 you wouldn't find a news reporter looking for our troops flaws over that of the enemy. :rasta:

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It's not a flaw, it's a scandal. And what flaws do our enemies have? They're religious nutters that blow themselves up. Is there much more science to it then that? What more do you want the papers to print?

When you refuse to be shown the weaknesses of your own side there can't be much hope for you.

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Originally Posted by B.Basher

It's not a flaw, it's a scandal. And what flaws do our enemies have? They're religious nutters that blow themselves up. Is there much more science to it then that? What more do you want the papers to print?

When you refuse to be shown the weaknesses of your own side there can't be much hope for you.

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So whats your feelings on WW2? Was every last thing reported then?

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy BB,

During WW2,we didn't have a liberal media running around writing stories about what's wrong with us and our system of goverment,instead ,they talked about what was wrong with the enemie's system of goverment..they didn't go around trying to destroy the resolve of folks trying to defend freedom and democracy.

I think that the media needs to focus on what's wrong with islamofascism and muslim jihadism,instead of aiding and abbetting terrorists and the countries that support and train them. The media needs to start reporting the good things that have been done and the good things being done,by the Coalition in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Democracy will always have it's share of problems..but un-checked islamofascism,is far worse. Either you can support democracy,freedom,choice and equality..or you can support islamofascism,that's the choice that you've been handed by the terrorists and muslim jihadists..if ya don't convert to Islam..they're coming for ya..you don't have the choice to be neutral..eventually,they'll come for the Swiss even..probably regret the heck out of it--but that's what mohammed commands in the koran.

Have a good one ...

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I agree Torog, most of the news of the war is always bad news. Scandals and death tolls and that's about it. "If it bleed it leads." motto. Like I have said, I do not agree with the action that has taken place in Iraq, but our men and women are there, so bitching about why we shoudn't be there doesnt help any.

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Originally Posted by XTC

I agree Torog, most of the news of the war is always bad news. Scandals and death tolls and that's about it. "If it bleed it leads." motto. Like I have said, I do not agree with the action that has taken place in Iraq, but our men and women are there, so bitching about why we shoudn't be there doesnt help any.

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Is not the good news broadcasted in America anyway? I was under the impression biased networks like FOX were Torog's cup of tea, nothing but pro-war, pro Bush bollocks.

I'm not saying they should only report bad news at all, i'm saying it's not right if they try to cover up the crimes of our own side in order to save face. Its manipulation of the media to please the masses. This is a war that is constantly debated heavily by the public, they need to know ALL the facts.

Anyway, I'm talking about the torture allegations which is a little off-topic. :rolleyes: Fuck it.

There is a decent sampling of both pro-war and anti-war imagery on US cable television. The problem these people have is with any and all outspoken media because it paints the US as weak and divided. To the confused patriot who believes these things are the source of everything American I can see how he would feel threatened.

If you don't feel like you're getting an accurate picture of what's going on with the war, why not change the channel? You know, watch a couple different networks... read a couple of different papers and then draw your own conclusion. It sounds to me like some of you guys are waiting around for your opinion to be handed to you.

Gather all the information you can and think for yourself.

P.S I'd like to point out that never have I once seen anything negative about the war or the President on our local news here. Pretty disturbing.

Just to answer about WW2...We were liberating europe, nothing bad into that...Until hiroshima exploded than media tlaked bad about it...so every war should report what is good or bad...but it is true i don't here too much good thing about the war here in canada...unfortunately i don't feel its too objective...suprisingly, the france news network is giving lots of objective news, good and bad, somehow the most hated in the story are the most reasonable...