New grower n sure if serious or not - PICTURES

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Originally Posted by tevfik

If this is the one you're using right now, adding fertilizers is not a good idea at all!
Usually this type of composts are not recommended with seedlings or very young plants. This compost has already high level of nutrients and you must be really careful with that. I used the same type of soil with my two plants from the seed, currently growing. But I was always giving only deionized water to them.

Let the soil dry out before watering. You have small plants in big pots. They can't drink all in two days IMO. Use distilled or deionized water if possible. If not, let the water from tap sit for a day.
Flushing with correct PH water also can be a good idea for now.
Do you have good drainage? Did you press the soil? These are also important.
Next time add some perlite in your compost. Or sth similar to help air/drainage.

Place your bulbs horizontal if possible, more light can be used by plants.

These are all i can tell. Hope these helps.

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yes thats the one i have used, i have not watered them since i will let them dry out now, they are looking a little healthier in the new leaves now, i am awaiting a ph reader in post and have bought some perlite today also and a humidity meter

Are you going to add perlite in to this?
If so, first prepare your medium by adding %20 to %40 perlite in it. You can spray perlite with water to prevent dust during the work.
You may want to flush new compost with PH corrected water before use but it might not be necessary if you will be careful about watering from now on :). I can suggest to use rain/deionized/distilled water for one to three watering. You can also mix those with tap water as well.

Now, after preparing the new compost, let the old compost dry out a little but not completely. Like %25 moist to handle easily. After that remove the pot. You must be able to hold the plant from the main stem. Hold the compost from the sides, lightly press and lightly roll in your hands. After that you can hold it from the stem and hit to the floor lightly. Washing out old compost is another alternative. Or you can invent your own way to do this. After old compost cleaned out from the roots (you don't need to clean all. You can do as much as you can, even %50 can be enough.) add some new compost in to bottom of the pot and press lightly (amount is depend on plants height, you can see that), after that add like half or one centimeter more but don't press. Place the roots on to compost, spread around and simultaneously add more soil around and inside the root ball. When you filled it completely, water the pot, let the compost sit and add more from top. Press lightly, water lightly for the last added compost. You're done. Wait until it gets dry for next watering.
You can't spread the roots as best as they were before, don't worry about that, just do your best.

This is just one suggestion from me for you. Before doing this, make a search, wait for other responses here and find the best way for yourself to get success.

Good luck:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by tevfik

Are you going to add perlite in to this?
If so, first prepare your medium by adding %20 to %40 perlite in it. You can spray perlite with water to prevent dust during the work.
You may want to flush new compost with PH corrected water before use but it might not be necessary if you will be careful about watering from now on :). I can suggest to use rain/deionized/distilled water for one to three watering. You can also mix those with tap water as well.

Now, after preparing the new compost, let the old compost dry out a little but not completely. Like %25 moist to handle easily. After that remove the pot. You must be able to hold the plant from the main stem. Hold the compost from the sides, lightly press and lightly roll in your hands. After that you can hold it from the stem and hit to the floor lightly. Washing out old compost is another alternative. Or you can invent your own way to do this. After old compost cleaned out from the roots (you don't need to clean all. You can do as much as you can, even %50 can be enough.) add some new compost in to bottom of the pot and press lightly (amount is depend on plants height, you can see that), after that add like half or one centimeter more but don't press. Place the roots on to compost, spread around and simultaneously add more soil around and inside the root ball. When you filled it completely, water the pot, let the compost sit and add more from top. Press lightly, water lightly for the last added compost. You're done. Wait until it gets dry for next watering.
You can't spread the roots as best as they were before, don't worry about that, just do your best.

This is just one suggestion from me for you. Before doing this, make a search, wait for other responses here and find the best way for yourself to get success.

Good luck:thumbsup:

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Thanks you have been a big help, i appreciate it =D

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Originally Posted by tevfik

Are you going to add perlite in to this?
If so, first prepare your medium by adding %20 to %40 perlite in it. You can spray perlite with water to prevent dust during the work.
You may want to flush new compost with PH corrected water before use but it might not be necessary if you will be careful about watering from now on :). I can suggest to use rain/deionized/distilled water for one to three watering. You can also mix those with tap water as well.

Now, after preparing the new compost, let the old compost dry out a little but not completely. Like %25 moist to handle easily. After that remove the pot. You must be able to hold the plant from the main stem. Hold the compost from the sides, lightly press and lightly roll in your hands. After that you can hold it from the stem and hit to the floor lightly. Washing out old compost is another alternative. Or you can invent your own way to do this. After old compost cleaned out from the roots (you don't need to clean all. You can do as much as you can, even %50 can be enough.) add some new compost in to bottom of the pot and press lightly (amount is depend on plants height, you can see that), after that add like half or one centimeter more but don't press. Place the roots on to compost, spread around and simultaneously add more soil around and inside the root ball. When you filled it completely, water the pot, let the compost sit and add more from top. Press lightly, water lightly for the last added compost. You're done. Wait until it gets dry for next watering.
You can't spread the roots as best as they were before, don't worry about that, just do your best.

This is just one suggestion from me for you. Before doing this, make a search, wait for other responses here and find the best way for yourself to get success.

Good luck:thumbsup:

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An old bonsai techniqe. :thumbsup: You can also have a pot of warm, properly ph'd water prepared, hold the mainstem and support the bottom of the rootball, and dip (dunk) the rootball a couple of times, which will wash-away some of the soil. Don't go overboard trying to remove it all though. I'd recommend taking no more than the first inch of old soil from all around the rootball. The fewer roots you disturb, the better your chances.

Sprinkle the fresh soil over the top of the rootball, and 'bump' the sides if the container to sift it through the roots. You can use a pencil (eraser end) or a plastic pen (cap on) to gently push the fresh soil/perlite into the rootball with little damage, if the voids you created require it. Usually, unless most of the soil fell out of the rootball, this 'pushing the soil in' shouldn't be necessary.
But, be real careful with the roots. Don't fold, spindle, snap, or stretch the roots, and keep 'em moist throughout the operation.

If skittish playing with the rootball and the violent Bonsai transplant thing, you can drill a few 1/2 inch holes in the sides of your pot, which will allow more airflow. Not usually as effective as perlite, but might be an option...

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Originally Posted by dubvitals

First Timer

2plants

slight yellow/light green on leaves

Your Equipment:
. 4 100w equivalent daylight bulbs
. about 3 inch away from plants
. 3 fans 2 blowing 1 extracting
. on 24 hr like cycle

Your medium:
. Multi Purpose Compost

Your nutrients and water:
. tap water at the moment just bought a ph tester waiting on delivery
. i have miracle grow all purpose NPK of 24-8-16, not been used yet!
. water once every 2 days


Your growroom:
19) Indoors
21) temp kept at a steady 21 degrees C


Your strain:
23) indica i think but unsure of the strain
24) From seeds


Sorry for bad quality picture camera not so good :(

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get them out of the compost. straight compost(especially cow manure) is very hot and needs to be used as an additive. and as always monitor your ph. nutrients shouldnt be a problem for a minute.

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Originally Posted by dubvitals

First Timer

2plants

slight yellow/light green on leaves

Your Equipment:
. 4 100w equivalent daylight bulbs
. about 3 inch away from plants
. 3 fans 2 blowing 1 extracting
. on 24 hr like cycle

Your medium:
. Multi Purpose Compost

Your nutrients and water:
. tap water at the moment just bought a ph tester waiting on delivery
. i have miracle grow all purpose NPK of 24-8-16, not been used yet!
. water once every 2 days


Your growroom:
19) Indoors
21) temp kept at a steady 21 degrees C


Your strain:
23) indica i think but unsure of the strain
24) From seeds


Sorry for bad quality picture camera not so good :(

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oh and i almost forgot...turn your lights horizontally with a reflector above if you can. youll get better spread on your lighting.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

An old bonsai techniqe. :thumbsup: You can also have a pot of warm, properly ph'd water prepared, hold the mainstem and support the bottom of the rootball, and dip (dunk) the rootball a couple of times, which will wash-away some of the soil. Don't go overboard trying to remove it all though. I'd recommend taking no more than the first inch of old soil from all around the rootball. The fewer roots you disturb, the better your chances.

Sprinkle the fresh soil over the top of the rootball, and 'bump' the sides if the container to sift it through the roots. You can use a pencil (eraser end) or a plastic pen (cap on) to gently push the fresh soil/perlite into the rootball with little damage, if the voids you created require it. Usually, unless most of the soil fell out of the rootball, this 'pushing the soil in' shouldn't be necessary.
But, be real careful with the roots. Don't fold, spindle, snap, or stretch the roots, and keep 'em moist throughout the operation.

If skittish playing with the rootball and the violent Bonsai transplant thing, you can drill a few 1/2 inch holes in the sides of your pot, which will allow more airflow. Not usually as effective as perlite, but might be an option...

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is there a bonsai section on this forum? always found the subject interesting on some of the older non existing forums. ive read of shaving roots for regrowth...although i thought that to be extreme. im no bonsai guy though i just dabbled and found old age my enemy.

Just a picture to show your help has been well appreciated plant seems to be becoming very healthy and growing fast one last question when shall i fertz???? they are 3 weeks on the 17th?? thanks

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Originally Posted by dubvitals

Just a picture to show your help has been well appreciated plant seems to be becoming very healthy and growing fast one last question when shall i fertz???? they are 3 weeks on the 17th?? thanks

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Good to hear and see that.
Don't be in a hurry about fertilizing. Let the plant grow in there. That soil is strong enough and will support for a while even entire plant life. Plant will tell you if fertilizing needed. You just be careful with watering. Thats the most important thing you should care right now.