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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

We are keeping it real here. As far as your "crunch time" excuse in an effort to justify the use of detox drinks, if you have the time to consume a magic potion, then you have time to consume vitamin B2 and water - which accomplishes the same thing (diluting) all while saving yourself the money and not feeding the scam artists whose only objective to take that money. :rolleyes:

If everything in the world were to be based on personal experience, it would be a pretty sad existence. Youre merely assuming that niacin had caused your several friends to pass the U/A. Just because B happened doesnt mean A caused it. What if you took peanut oil before taking your test in which you passed, are you going to conclude that peanut oil was responsible for you passing and that everyone should start taking peanut oil? :rolleyes:
Your illogical conclusion that niacin was the reason for passing is known as a fallacy of causation. Its flat out wrong. Period!

Yes we are keeping it real here. Drug testing is a serious issue because theres people with careers, families, and freedoms hinging on the outcome of a U/A, and factual info is vital here. Non-facts can quickly land an uninformed reader (that would assume what youre passing off as 'fact') in the unemployment line, or worse, jail. If you dont like the idea that we hold the poster to a high standard of fact, well thats too bad. Thats how it is here and shall remain. And if that idea is somehow not your cup of tea, then perhaps the drug testing forum is not for you. The drug testing forum is not a playground. If you want a playground, try some other site like myspace or yahoo.

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Thanks BT for clearing this up, I became preoccupied and couldn't finish my argument.

Moody420, we have nothing personal against you. As Burnt Toast stated, we hold peoples livelihoods on a very high pedestal here and when we feel that someone is not educating people factually, we are willing to strike with an iron fist. We don't want to run anyone out of or away from the drug testing forum. We just want people to educate themselves on the facts of drug testing so that they can properly educate others.

What's the threshold for pass/fail on one of those tests? If you're borderline, you can probably request another test if they'll allow it. From what it sounds like, you should be pretty close to passing. Just don't dress up like a rasta man when you go to the interview, and they probably won't suspect anything..:rasta:

If everything in the world were to be based on personal experience, it would be a pretty sad existence. Youre merely assuming that niacin had caused your several friends to pass the U/A. Just because B happened doesnt mean A caused it. What if you took peanut oil before taking your test in which you passed, are you going to conclude that peanut oil was responsible for you passing and that everyone should start taking peanut oil? :rolleyes:
Your illogical conclusion that niacin was the reason for passing is known as a fallacy of causation. Its flat out wrong. Period!

Yes we are keeping it real here. Drug testing is a serious issue because theres people with careers, families, and freedoms hinging on the outcome of a U/A, and factual info is vital here. Non-facts can quickly land an uninformed reader (that would assume what youre passing off as 'fact') in the unemployment line, or worse, jail. If you dont like the idea that we hold the poster to a high standard of fact, well thats too bad. Thats how it is here and shall remain. And if that idea is somehow not your cup of tea, then perhaps the drug testing forum is not for you. The drug testing forum is not a playground. If you want a playground, try some other site like myspace or yahoo.[/QUOTE]

Isn't personal experience what it's all about??? Figuring out what works for YOU??? I'm not telling anyone what to do ....I'm simply speaking of my own experiences that I believe to be true! And yes, if I had smoked a bunch of weed, swallowed some peanut oil and passed a drug test...I, in fact, would think that the peanut oil had something to do with it....wouldn't you?

I get what you are saying about using vitamins to do the same thing, but it also seems like it may take longer. That is the only reason i advised to try a drink.

And with keeping in the spirit of "keeping it real"....if drug testing is such a serious issue and you are so worried about people's careers, families etc....why are you not suggesting NOT DOING DRUGS!!! I mean, honestly, the only way to guarantee passing a drug test is to NOT DO DRUGS! But obviously, people are taking risks already and doing substances they are not supposed to and here they are asking for opinions...which is what I was giving!

Also, I don't like playgrounds, they are dirty and filled with germs....i thought this was a cannabis forum for people to discuss their experiences, knowledge and questions about cannabis! :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by Deige

Thanks BT for clearing this up, I became preoccupied and couldn't finish my argument.

Moody420, we have nothing personal against you. As Burnt Toast stated, we hold peoples livelihoods on a very high pedestal here and when we feel that someone is not educating people factually, we are willing to strike with an iron fist. We don't want to run anyone out of or away from the drug testing forum. We just want people to educate themselves on the facts of drug testing so that they can properly educate others.

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thanks for clearing this up....I understand where you are coming from. And I appreciate you being respectful.

But again, I must state that it is purely opinion based on MY personal experience. I'm not stating that my way is the only way....just an option worth thinking about. You and BT may not agree, but that doesn't make you right either. To each their own...:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by moody420

thanks for clearing this up....I understand where you are coming from. And I appreciate you being respectful.

But again, I must state that it is purely opinion based on MY personal experience. I'm not stating that my way is the only way....just an option worth thinking about. You and BT may not agree, but that doesn't make you right either. To each their own...:jointsmile:

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No. It does make them right. Your anecdotal accountings are only proof that a fool and their money often part. These scam artists are counting on it, no offense.

Next time you buy a drink, pour the magic drink out right down the drain. Fill it with water ONE extra time than the directions call for to replace what you poured away. You will have the exact same THC level as you would have had you consumed the potion. Not sure why you aren't hearing that part. There is nothing in there that helps you pass a drug test. You are simply watering down your piss for a lot of $$$ for something you can get out of your kitchen sink for free. EOS. There is nothing to debate.

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Originally Posted by moody420

I'm not telling anyone what to do ....

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No, but youre suggesting the O/P to try a magic detox potion and (ahem) niacin. And making such suggestions without realizing that niacin has nothing to do with passing a U/A is downright irresponsible. Especially when so much is at stake.

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Originally Posted by moody420

I'm simply speaking of my own experiences that I believe to be true! And yes, if I had smoked a bunch of weed, swallowed some peanut oil and passed a drug test...I, in fact, would think that the peanut oil had something to do with it.

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Which goes to show that your knowlege on THC drug tests and what actually causes people to pass drug tests is woefully lacking.

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Originally Posted by moody420

...wouldn't you?

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As a person with full knowlege of what had actually causes people to pass, I know better than that. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by moody420

And with keeping in the spirit of "keeping it real"....if drug testing is such a serious issue and you are so worried about people's careers, families etc....why are you not suggesting NOT DOING DRUGS!!!

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If everyone were to stop doing drugs, the drug testing forums reason for being would be eliminated.

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Originally Posted by moody420

I mean, honestly, the only way to guarantee passing a drug test is to NOT DO DRUGS!

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There is no guarantee to that. Actually theres many individuals that dont do drugs that were burned by false positives due to misinterpretation of the results, (among other things), without the luxury of a confirmation test to refute that false positive (due to a cheapskate employer/probation dept being unwilling to shell out the money for a confirmation test). Without the confirmation test to back up or refute the false positive, such persons lost jobs, or in the case of persons on probation, had their probation revoked and remaned back into custody. Drug tests are far from being infallible.

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Originally Posted by moody420

But again, I must state that it is purely opinion based on MY personal experience.

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But again, opinions and other non-facts on a drug testing board can quickly land an uninformed reader in jail, or the unemployment line. We tend to keep things factual here. And again, if that idea is not your cup of tea, then perhaps the drug testing forum is not for you.
Bottom line is niacin is a myth and does nothing to pass a drug test. Detox drinks are overpriced diluters in a bottle. If you would spend more time doing hard research on THC and drug tests, and less time touting detox products and prepetuating the niacin myth, you would realize this.