FINALPHASE/CLEAREX what is in it?

Universal means more than "ALL". dont pick out parts of a definition to suit your own needs. Rogets II thesaurus(all i have here) Universal-So pervasive and all-inclusive as to exist in or effect the whole world. looking at that, i have to say water as a solvent lives up to that definition. Your thinking in the lines that if water is a "universal" solvent, then the universe should be disolved and all of us non-polar lipidized weed growin people shouldnt even be here. no way. a semantical play on words as between "most" or "all" in the universal sense is irrelevent. the world is your chemistry set but dont limit your spectrum of view like the hps bulb hangin in your closet and miss out on the cool chemicals in the back. type those two words in your search bar and see what you get. and thats whats in klereX kuri, chemicals.

got it. domo arigato gozaimashita sensei Sativus-san.

"Your thinking in the lines that if water is a "universal" solvent, then the universe should be disolved and all of us non-polar lipidized weed growin people shouldnt even be here. no way."

no I didn't mean that.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...versal&x=0&y=0

"Main Entry: 1uni·ver·sal
Pronunciation: "yü-n&-'v&r-s&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin universalis, from universum universe
1 : including or covering all or a whole collectively or distributively without limit or exception
2 a : present or occurring everywhere b : existent or operative everywhere or under all conditions <universal cultural patterns>
3 a : embracing a major part or the greatest portion (as of mankind) <a universal state> <universal practices> b : comprehensively broad and versatile <a universal genius>
4 a : affirming or denying something of all members of a class or of all values of a variable b : denoting every member of a class <a universal term>
5 : adapted or adjustable to meet varied requirements (as of use, shape, or size) <a universal gear cutter>"


I'm using definition 1 of the word, you are using definition 3. That's why I said it's semantics, we both know water doesn't dissolve everything, so we both understand but we're using definitions and wording a bit differently thus it is a difference in semantics.

I'm not arguing this point any more. I've had some coworkers say it is, and others say it isn't. And most of my coworkers have PhD's in a science field since I work in a neurovirology and cancer biology lab (mostly doing cellular and molecular biology, not clinical). In science I prefer the most precise definition possible, one that doesn't bring ambiguity due to multiple meanings. So I would say water is the best solvent and can solubilize many things, but I wouldn't use universal becuase it can be easily misunderstood if you read the definitions listed above.

I'll bet your head is spinnin now Kuri lol. Don't pay any of that any mind, you'd be better served in reading up on the biology of plants. When I started growing I think it was the first time I put my ole biology textbook from college to some good use lol. There's some interesting stuff there and it'll help you sort through all the old wives tales. (like the one about pouring OJ into the soil to make it taste like oranges lol)

Plant photoperiod is also interesting, do a search on florigen. Cannabis is a short day plant so the stuff pertaining to short day plants should apply.

peace

Kuri no disrespect man....
phillykid420 that was some funny shit, I laughed my ass off. I forgot about that OJ tale.....to funny.

Well said.....Peace all

your right, its not that big of a deal. universal is a word that can be blown out of porportion if you wanted. the whole thing came up over the ingrediants in kleareX, which I personaly think chemicals are in it. but if you want to use it, theres nothng wrong with that one bit. maybe it does make plants flush out better or faster, but plain water will too if given time to do its job. so i apologize if any posts were taken in the wrong context around the time my offspring got involved in some circumstances and put me in a mean mood. but thats another story, so besides the fact that chemicals are in kleareX, i still dont know if the ingrediants are natural or otherwise. Maybe the answer is to ask kleareX themselves. :)

Plain water will not remove all the nutrients built up. Clearing agents will remove more nutrient build up then just plain water. I am not saying plain water does not work, just that it will not work as well as a nutrient clearing agent.

Good Kannabis Growing!

the thing that i thought about was the fact of using one chemical to clean another and the residue it might leave behind, if any at all. if that stuff works then all the better. i think kuri was trying to find out if it had natural ingrediants so he could make his own version, and that sort of interested me as well. thats when the whole idea of plain water entered my mind. and im sure that stuff costs a few bucks for a bottle.

yup sativus, that is exactly what i was thinking