this sound like CHANGE to you ?
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Originally Posted by Stemis516
thats the problem dude
one man cant change anything, its the whole system that needs to be up-ended
Anybody with a half a lick of sense knows that obama was talking out his ass on the campagn trail. Its just very unfortunate that there were so many sheeple that swallowed the crap he spewed. Now *EVERYBODY* has to live with it, and the resultant consequenses.
The tax break for earnings under $250,000 will keep me from growing my company, and hiring another employee or 2. I can envision filing tax returns on $249,000, and use the rest for a luxury "retreat" for the company "board meeting".
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Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
lol was just trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt....hell i didnt vote for him
but i guess the majority of this board is just too far conservative to accept that
you people missed my point completely.....the fact is any1 of us could walk into politics with good intentions and we'd come out the other end completely different
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
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Originally Posted by luciddreamer
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
That post is just dripping with irony dude. Someone from Australia is calling the U.S. citizens close minded and to wait a year for us to see how basically a one year budget works out. Our budget, our economy, our paychecks, our retirement, not ours. Unless you've been living under a rock you should know many people in America can't wait a year. The bills aren't waiting neither can we. I'm sure this holds true around many parts of the world right now.
Have you seen how quickly things can change in one year? Normally or in the past it does usually take a year maybe longer to see the effects of economic policy change but not in this current state. He's got his finger in a fist sized hole and there are more leaks coming. It's not hard to decide if you are in favor of a budget proposal or not.
Dreamer, we have a saying here, the devil is in the detail. As Obama releases details of his budget and bail out plans it's starting to look like to many people and experts that he is planting the seeds of socialism into every aspect of the government. While many people here have good things to say about Socialism,
This is not a socialist country and I feel confident when I say most Americans don't like socialism. This is not a socialistic country.
Some are also saying that he is going back on campaign promises already. It doesn't take a year to see this.
Wait a year, please. Even Ben Bernanke and Tim Geithner came out this week and told Obama more action on the banks and quick too.
I don't think anyone is being inpatient when it comes to approval or disapproval of his economic plan for the coming year and I for one think his plan stinks.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
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Originally Posted by luciddreamer
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
I am confused. Why exactly do we need to wait for him to fuck up more! He has already proven exactly what he is capable of in the short time he has been around.
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What???
Takes time to do shit you say???
If you spent $1,000,000.00 every day 365 days a year...year after year...
It would have taken you from the time Jesus Christ was born until now and you'd still have million$ left to retire on.
Your Obama has done it with Nancy and socialist tribe in tow 36 DAYS.
More money spent by our nation in one month than in the entire history of out nation.
Get a grip on what a few trillion dollars means.
Alot of $hit!!
And all in a ruse of a ''crisis'' scam which by no other name is social engineering to turn this into a *Nationalized Socialist Republic.
The 15 year power grab the Dems are getting will be our final demise if their far left liberals take over our medical care and banking.
Socialism has never proven to succeed and as of yet not one country past or present has ever bettered by doing so.
Only the control freaks have control in a socialistic state.
*National Socialist Republic was Nazi Germany
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Originally Posted by luciddreamer
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
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Originally Posted by luciddreamer
Wow, there's some close-minded, impatient people in this forum. Not something I'd expect from weed growers. (you need both patience and open-mindedness(to smoke ignore propaganda)).
If he hasn't done anything after a year then maybe you can get angry. Right now you have no right. It takes a lot of time to do shit when your following Government guidelines.
Being a business owner gives me quite a different perspective. I am more worried about my company making it through all the problems, than I am with my home or personal stuff. Its not just for me but also for the other people and businesses that I help support in one form, fashion, or another. Weed growing has nothing to do with the grand scheme of things, because that is not gonna effect my base rate of pay. My company on the other hand, is a completely different story.
this sound like CHANGE to you ?
Obama is not a victim of the political system. If anybody is a victim of the system it is the Americans paying to keep it running! Obama has been groomed for this position ever since his days in college, all one needs to do is look at his relationship with Zbigniew Brzezinski during his grooming days.
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I agree. Somebody forked over a lot of money to put Obama through college, and that is the only thing in his pass that I've seen that hasn't been adequately addressed.
