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I really think you should give your plants a bit more chance before giving up on them- a week or so and watch the new growth.
That Papaya is a nice knockoff. They did a good job. Watch for unusually resinated individuals; I even got a resinated MALE in my pack and bred him into a Papaya F2 to back up the genetics and share with buddies. It's also easy to grow and the product is VERY pleasant.
I plan to stick it out with them for sure. My wife was just asking me why I was gonna get rid of them too. I got the seeds coming so if they all give up the ghost then I will start over.
In fact, they all do have some nice new leaves coming in. I really want to save the 3 Trainwreck plants especially.
Do you think I should trim off the brownest of the big leaves? I did that to one plant and it looks OK thus far.
pH has been creeping up as expected but never higher than 6.45. I shoot for 6.0 and actually drop below that (to like 5.6) as I can only check pH when I am here (and I work a bit).
I'm going to try and get them on to full strength nutes and then put them into flower.
Buzz
get your lights closer
Wait a few days before dropping the lights. You want to make absolutely certain that the little root systems can take the heat.
Leave the leaves until they just pull off with a slight tug.
Well, the girls have been doing OK I think. At least they are not dead and dry! I've seen some good root growth--pure white and full of very fine hairs. pH does creep up over 24 hours but never above 6.3. I am shooting for 5.8. PPM has been brought up slowly to 420--I replace evaporate with full strength solution. Started Liquid Karma yesterday and 2ml/gal (which is a fairly low amount).
Here are some pics I took today. The new leaves look curled--not sure why that is.
Buzz
Buzz - You seem to have your plants on a good regimen, but they still look ghastly. Do you calibrate your meters regularly? You might want to calibrate and make sure you are getting true readings. Also, that aluminum foil really isn't a very good idea. It can cause hot spots. The foil shouldn't matter if all you are using now are cfl's. But something just isn't right with your grow, so you might as well start eliminating little things.
PC :smokin:
I'm wondering how much of that deformity on the newer growth was caused by the severe damage the plants suffered while that same new growth was forming at the terminal node... The soft new growth that was exposed to the problem would certainly grow wrong, and after the problem went away, normal growth would resume. I want to see what the growth of the NEXT set of leaves looks like before throwing in the towel on those plants. Their color has certainly improved.
I'm using a 4 tube t5 unit as well as the cfl's. I need to get some white plastic instead of the foil--it's on the list.
I use a Hanna pH, PPM meter and calibrated about three weeks ago. I will calibrate again tonight.
I am endeavoring to persevere with these girls. The next grow will be from seed...
Thanks for all the input folks! I wish I knew somebody local who knows how to grow (I probably do, it's just that they don't advertise--neither do I!).
Buzz
Just a little update. The girls are doing fine I think. I did a water change yesterday and dropped the ppm back a bit to 690 ppm from 890. Some leaf tips were starting to curl although I think that might have just been the older growth from back when I had the first problems (like Stinky said supra). I a\also upped the LK to 5ml/gal (half strength)
I had to cull one of the Permafrost plants--just not enough room!
I think I should start to flower soon, but I wanted to get them stabilized first.
Here are some pics:
Is this a misprint...? Are you using the bloom formula or the grow formula? Both?Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzPion
The plants need nitrogen sooner or later, lol.
B=Bloom cycle (flowering)
M= micros (micronutes and other good stuff)
G= Grow cycle (vegging)