Help noob with new clones PLEASE!

[BuzzPion]

I have had my girls now since December 14th. I am trying my best to get these going. I am using the Lucas method with GH nutes 0-5-10 B-M-G pH is 6.15 PPM is 740. I started them on this on Dec 30th with half strength for a day and a half. I had to change to full strength due to a bone head move that caused a leak. The plan was to run 1/2 strength for a week and switch to full. I had a res with full strenth when I had the leak so just switched out to full early. Water temp is 70F two long air stones and a power head in the 22 gal tank. Temps in the day are 77-78 and 70-68 at night. Running 18/6. Lots of air movement during the day when lights are on.

Plants are not thriving--most have a purple color to the stems and underneath the leaves. Leaves are turning brown and new leaves are curled. The three in the back are Permafrost and the others up front are Trainwreck.

One idea I have is that the nutes are too strong. The other is some sort of difficiency. I have some liquid karma that I could try. Attached are some pics.

Buzz
-indoor
-hydroponic
-clay pellets
-DWC
-Anything you have added to the soil
-tap water starting Ph 7.3 ppm 70
-Clone taken 14 Dec
-t5 flor tube blue 6 150W eq CFL full spect 6500K

-% Relative humidity ~35%
-Lighting schedule 18/6
-small grow tent w 250 cfm inline fan w/carbon filter. One 4" and one 5" vent at bottom with ducting to plants. One small box fan and one small regular fan (see pics)

BuzzPion Reviewed by BuzzPion on 01-06-2008. Help noob with new clones PLEASE! I have had my girls now since December 14th. I am trying my best to get these going. I am using the Lucas method with GH nutes 0-5-10 B-M-G pH is 6.15 PPM is 740. I started them on this on Dec 30th with half strength for a day and a half. I had to change to full strength due to a bone head move that caused a leak. The plan was to run 1/2 strength for a week and switch to full. I had a res with full strenth when I had the leak so just switched out to full early. Water temp is 70F two long air Rating: 5

[dejayou30]

Definitely over nuted. Flush em out and start again with a weaker solution.

[Weedhound]

Deja is right.....they look pretty darn fried. WAY weaker nute strength and watch and correct your ph like a hawk. They look pretty damaged however.

[BuzzPion]

Ughh. That's what I thought. Going to run a weak nute solution for a couple days and bring the levels back up slowly over the next couple weeks.

[BuzzPion]

OK, I did a water change and now have pH 6.18 PPM 240. I also flushed each plant with clean pH 6.2 water. I will continue to flush wiyh a weat nute solution.

Should I drop the PPM lower or is this enough?

Buzz

[Weedhound]

That's low enough. One of the main things to watch for is ph rising....which it will in nuteburned plants.....quickly. The other thing is watch your ppms....if the number rises keep adding ph correct water to dilute it. The plants may drink alot of water right now and leave the nutes behind.....they already have too many on board....so you need to watch it carefully.

Buzz.....they look pretty chewed. The only thing you can really hope for is healthy new growth....those leaves aren't going to improve so keep an eye out for any sigsn of NEW growth. They honestly look pretty sick to me.

Good Luck.

[Weedhound]

Revised: The Complete Guide To Sick Plants,pH and Pest Troubles - PlanetGanja.com This link is worth a look through as well.

[BuzzPion]

Thanks. I was not happy with the clones from day one. The place where I got them was filthy and although I cut them correctly, the sanitary conditions were not up to what they should have been (actually far from it). They were a couple of old school hippies who aren't all about being clean...anyway.

I plan to start from seeds and get a mother going--one that I know how it was cared for etc. I can get myself to Canada or order online. Neither of which I am comfortable with.

Bummer, but I am learning...

Buzz

[stinkyattic]

Looks like you've got some scarring from a Mg def.
And I've seen clones behave like that when they were allowed to sit in the prop dome too long after rooting and the roots were exposed to air and began to brown and rot. Keep an eye on the NEW growth, including root growth. Are the roots white, or do they show some brown?

[BuzzPion]

The roots are pure white and fuzzy (the good kind). If anything, they went into the DWC a bit early. I just ordered some seeds (Nirvana Papaya) so I am going to start over. I plan to get a good mother out of the batch of 10 seeds I am getting. Gonna let my Mom take care of her as a house plant.

I had thought it was a deficiency, but I think I just burned them on full strength nutes. I'm learning though. The only thing I am good a growing is a beard--but I think I can get this all figured out.

Buzz