Too loose!

dude okay this is what you gotta do

when your rolling it, before you start anything else, push the side of the paper faceing you onto the other side behind it.. so the weed is like hammocked in the middle. and then repeatedly roll it up and down until the weed takes shape of a cylindar. eventually the shape should be good enough so taht you can just wrap the paper over the weed like a burrito and roll it up, lick it and stick it all the time keeping it as tight as it was from the start.

if you do taht you will have it i guarentee
Yeah like this:

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Originally Posted by twentysac

after you put the bud in the paper, but before you fold the paper over, touch the two sides of the paper togather. you should have basically a folded paper with bud in ther middle. roll the paper up and down in your fingers. this rolls the bud into a tight little bunch all along the fold of the paper. then make try to roll it up. basically the bud has to be in a tight tube like row inside the paper before you start to roll. thats the way i get em tight. aw hell, after reading that it might not make any sence if you haven't seen it done before. anybody else out there that knows what i mean and might be able to explain it a litlle better?

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hell yeah. what night said. very well put man

my advice is to do everything everyone said, but I actually prefer slightly pregnant joints, because by the time they are established and going strong, you are right at the weed payload in the center :)!

i am not a great roller, but what I find helpful is to roll it up, then(ok, this is kinda gross) just lick it all over and kind of press it into the shape you want if its a lil wierd looking. just run a lighter up and down a few times, it dries out and gets nice and firm. I also prefer a 2 ply joint. i use 2 papers because it makes them firm, prevents holes in the paper, and just looks so much damn better. I roll a joint, and then just lick the side of it, place the wet side down on a new paper, and just roll it right up. looks amazing and smokes very well.

a friend of mine taught me this trick when I had the same problem......BEFORE you start to roll, take the paper and twist it a bit at the end where it is creased(just a lil bit of the corner) on one end..... load the ganja (I usually load it a bit higher in the center, which can be dispursed evenly) and roll from the open end/middle till you get to the creased end which the weed should not fall out of.......roll up snug(not too tight!!) and enjoy!

the secret for rolling normal joints with one paper and no roach, no cones nothing fancy just a normal joint.

fold the bottom half of the paper (w/o the glue) up to the crease in the middle, then take each of the bottom corners and fold them up to the crease in the middle aswell. Proceed to fill this pouch with your weapon of choice and roll that fucker up.

if its too loose you can fix it with a second skin but you might wanna rip it in half, unless you like the taste of burning paper.