I did google it. I was just curious to your personal thoughts because I believe this to be a personal issue. Thanks!
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I did google it. I was just curious to your personal thoughts because I believe this to be a personal issue. Thanks!
If you have a particular question about MY beliefs I would be happy to answer you. If that helps. I just think that there is always 2 sides, and a middle to every label, subject, everything. So I try really hard to stay away from labels, unless a particular person has already chosen one themselves. I have also been married very young, for a long time, so I know a LOT about communication, and I TRY really hard not to say always and never. I have learned that I am not always right, sometimes neither one of the parties in a conversation is right. I do have a 99% accuracy rate though ;)
Eva
lol as long as you're humble ;-P just teasing I am married too and have 4 sons the oldest is 12 and the youngest is 2. I have an idea what busy is. lol
Labels are wrong, I agree. I was just trying to understand your view agnostic and Christian don't seem to go together very well. That is if we draw a hardline on the definition of Christian.
Agnostics basically know something is out there, but don't know what is is. Christians come in all types. There are the really great people who love god, and will tell you about it if you want to hear, but don't knock on peoples doors 3 times a week for months. There are the hard core christians who act like they have done something horrible in a past life and are trying to repent on it in this one, and part of that "repent" is to take as many people with them as possible by any means. And then everyone in between including the priest molesting the little boy, yet being a "model" citezen.Quote:
Originally Posted by mont974x4
They can blend very nicely if neither of them are given a box to reside in.
And I am wrong more than 1% when it comes to my hubby. I was joking. But I am very hard to argue with, because I will never tell you that your wrong. And I might agree with you, but.......
Eva
ahhh you just enjoy the discussion sometimes. ;-P It's ok, I do too. I play the devils advocate sometimes just to have have a conversation. However I don't like discussing hard issues with people that just say what they think and don't have an idea why they think what they think. lol Did that make sense? It's like arguing about politics with someone who just sets their opinion based on 30 second soundbites on the news without actually researching the issues for themselves.
I try to be in that first group. I am annoyed with hardcore Bible thumpers because they do more harm than good. I am also annoyed by people that claim to be Christian but really have no idea. (hence my comment in the first paragraph).
I would define a Christian as someone striving to be Christ-like. Oversimplified I know, but I can expand on that thought later.
From where "we've" been to where we are, you are absolutely in the first group you mentioned. You are mature enough to come and say, okay, so what about this? And even if you don't believe, any of it. You are behaving christ-like by being accepting, and non-judgmental.
My argument with FLESH was the existance in god period. That is a sad thing I feel. I don't really care about anything else, as long as it is something that makes you happy, and not scared. I believe in re-incarnation, but I don't care if anyone else does. That isn't something that matters, we will all find out the truth by experience when that time comes.
God's existance is worth defending, I am sure you agree :)
Eva
I am married to a confirmed Catholic, from a whole family of catholics. And he believes in reincarnation. He had that belief before me, which was a long time ago. He just didn't have a name for it :)
I have seen far too much evidence in my own life for me to think that there is no God.
BTW, thanks for the compliment.
Jay
Someone (I think it was flesh but maybe not) even suggested that Jesus didn't even exist. I had so much material to wade through, but I think that claim was missed.
Saying that Jesus didn't exist truley prove how ignorant, as a person the author of that post is. Jesus existed just like his mother mary, Buddah, Mahatma Gandi, The list goes on and on. Jesus get's picked on because he is the celebrity of the many "masters" we have had along the way. All I mean by masters is that they had mastered the illusion duality. They knew that God was accessable to everyone, but through him was a short cut basically. We all have the power to connect with god directly. But people like Jesus were like a doorway to god. You could feel god in there energy field even if you weren't sensitive to it.
Anyway, just wanted to also defend jesus's existance. Scientist doen't even refute that one, they just think he was crazy.
Eva
There's too much historical evidence to prove he walked the earth. Even Pilate, the Roman that oversaw His trial, has writings about the case.
I have also heard people say Jesus was just a great teacher. How can they claim Him to be a great teacher and then turn around and say what he taught was false? I don't understand that argument.
I do believe the Bible in its entirety. However, I do reserach the original text so I know what was originally intended. I don't believe I can pick and choose what I want to believe in this. It's all or nothing for me.