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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
Paul Joseph Watson | May 3, 2005
Infowars | May 4, 2005
By Alex Jones
Nearly four years after the tragic events of September 11th, the 9/11 Truth Movement has expanded from a small group skeptics and activists into a real political force.
Over time several individuals have sought to place themselves at the center of this unprecedented citizen campaign by declaring themselves to be its 'founders.'
Whether their motivation is fueled by malevolence or by a genuine desire to steer people toward the truth, their behavior is dangerous to the ultimate success of the movement.
Within a popular front such as this, the title of "founder" carries with it enormous authority to many people. Those who claim to have founded this movement are also claiming the moral authority to define what others should investigate, what they should focus their efforts on, and what they should believe.
Shouting at the top of my lungs, I came forward months in advance of September 11th, trying to warn the country of the sinister events on the horizon, and of the impending crime that powerful, elite members of the federal government were going to perpetrate on the American people under the guise of foreign terrorism.
Shortly after the attacks, I released the very first 9/11 film to expose the government connections to the attack. Yet, despite being first to champion the truth about 9/11, I do not seek the title of 'founder,'
I only seek to further warn others in this crusade to beware of those who would attempt to limit and control the scope of our investigations, who would tell us what we ought to believe and who would stand in the the way of our mission to expose deceit and reveal the truth.
Four years ago in May 2001, I watched a British Channel 4 documentary about Alex Jones' infiltration into Bohemian Grove. At first glance the show seemed to be a hit piece aimed at discrediting Alex and his work. But I wanted to make sure so I visited Alex's website and started listening to his radio show.
Alex was gripped with anguish and apprehension. He was talking about how the government were about to carry out an act of terrorism to bolster the construction of a police state and a new world order.
Alex dubbed his campaign 'Expose the Government Terrorists' and urged his listeners to call the White House and tell them to call off the operation.
He gave out White House switchboard numbers on his radio and television show on a daily basis.
On his television show Alex elaborated on the fact that the Globalists were about to use their asset Osama bin Laden to attack New York. Alex is not psychic. He did not have a crystal ball. He was able to make the call because he could see the conditioning in the media. Bin laden is a threat, bin Laden will attack. When bin Laden attacks, give up your rights.
This was the incessantly replayed mantra from the controlled media.
Click here for a clip from Alex's TV show, taped on July 25th 2001.
I watched all this develop before I even spoke to Alex Jones or started my own website.
Alex predicted the 9/11 attack BEFORE it happened.
On the day of the attack Alex called in to the Derry Brown show which was being broadcast on GCN before Alex's own show came on air.
Alex was adamant that the government were behind the attack. They had been conditioning the public before the attack and they had the most to gain from carrying out the attack.
While others were squabbling over issues of prior knowledge, Alex was firm in pointing the finger directly at the criminals inside the Military-Industrial Complex for being intimately involved in 9/11.
The evidence is now overwhelming and clear that this is exactly what happened.
In the days and weeks following 9/11, Alex was the first to draw attention to the crucial testimony of people like David Shippers and Greg Palast, respectable figures blowing the whistle on government connections and protection of the terrorists.
Greg Palast thanked Alex for being the only radio host to pay attention to W199I, a leaked document concerning FBI protected of groups linked to Al-Qaeda.
In mid to late 2004 several prominent self-proclaimed 9/11 ringleaders started talking about the fact that wargames were used as a cover for the operational execution of the 9/11 attack. Alex was talking about this two years beforehand in his film, Masters of Terror and again in an April 2004 television show, a clip of which can be viewed here .
I point out these examples not to lionize Alex Jones as some kind of messiah but in response to the claims of many researchers that they are the 'grandfather' of the 9/11 truth movement or words to that effect.
It is disturbing to note that in many instances these same researchers have been seen to push obvious frauds like the peak oil theory.
At least three years ago Alex Jones warned people that the establishment would allow the truth about 9/11 to get out simply because it was too big a monster to hide.
Alex pointed out however that the establishment would spin the issue to make people believe that the evil right-wing American imperialists were behind the terrorism and so the only solution would be a left-wing world government to counter them. So you would be forced to accept a false choice between a right-wing world government and a left-wing world government.
Many prominent 9/11 researchers, either unwittingly or deliberately, have promulgated this dangerous notion, stating for example that we need a 'global democracy' to defeat the evil right-wing Neo-Cons.
The fact that these individuals have been labelled the 'godfathers of the 9/11 movement' is therefore a worrying development. This has given them the credibility required to create a '9/11 orthodoxy' and marginalizes anyone who discusses 9/11 issues that THEY feel shouldn't be circulated.
We vehemently disagree with and are highly suspicious of people who claim to be the bellwether 9/11' authority figures,' especially when people like Alex Jones and others were way ahead of the curve on 9/11.
The examples presented in this article underscore our conviction on this matter.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
and u call yourself a republican? Sound more like a dem, or an anti republican to me!
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
Here's what I think on 9/11. Did they know something Might happen. Probably. In New York probably. In New York City? Maybe. But on the When and How this attack might take place they probably had no clue. And what should they have done. Evacuate the entire city of New York. The events that happened were tragic, but I feel the goverment had no clue on how and when these things were going to take place.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
if anyone knew it was coming who do you think it was???i will lay it out for you.
-in february 1993,the world trade center was bombed by muslim fanatics,killing 5 people,wounding hundreds.
clinton did nothing.
october 1993,eighteen american troops were killed in a savage firefight in somalia.the corpse of one american was dragged through the streets of mogadishu as the somalin hordes cheered.
clinton responded by ordering our troops home.bin laden later told abc news"the youth realized the american soldier is a paper tiger and runs from battle after a few blows."
november 1995,5 americans killed and thiety wounded by a car bomb in saudi arabia set by muslim fanatics.
clinton did nothing.
june 1996 a U.S. Air Forse base in saudi arabia was bombed by fanatics.
clinton did nothing.
months later,saddam attacked the kurdish city of erbil.clinton lobbed some bombs into iraq,HUNDREDS of miles from saddams forces.
november 1997,iraq refuced to allow un weapons inspectors to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a u2 spy plane.
clinton did nothing.
february 1998,clinton threatened to bomb iraq,but called it off because the un said no.
august 7,1998,U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by al queda.
clinton did nothing.
august 20,monica lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before a grand jury.
clinton responded by bombing afghanistan and sudan,severely damaging a aspirin factory.
december 16,the house of representatives prepared to impeach clinton the next day.
clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against iraq.
october 2000,our warship the USS COLE was attacked by al queda.
CLINTON DID NOTHING.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
so what did u want him to do, go bomb every single fucking country? Clinton was actually smart, and didnt jump to a conclusion and bomb who he THOUGHT had done it. If it was GW in that same situation, there would be nothing left of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran. All those countries would retaliate and there would be nothing left of America. Clinton actually cared about international support for America, so thus, he didnt just GUESS, he wanted to know, unlike GW who had no fucking clue what he was doing, and obviously still doesnt. Also, the economy wasnt in a HUGE shit hole during the Clinton presidency, GW was left with the biggest surplus in history, and now were in the biggest deficit in history. Al queda is distributed throughout the whole fucking world, should we just bomb the whole world because of some crazy ass mother fuckers? Al queda knows this, but unfortunately, you dont!
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Originally Posted by sensiskunk
so what did u want him to do, go bomb every single fucking country? Clinton was actually smart, and didnt jump to a conclusion and bomb who he THOUGHT had done it. If it was GW in that same situation, there would be nothing left of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran. All those countries would retaliate and there would be nothing left of America. Clinton actually cared about international support for America, so thus, he didnt just GUESS, he wanted to know, unlike GW who had no fucking clue what he was doing, and obviously still doesnt. Also, the economy wasnt in a HUGE shit hole during the Clinton presidency, GW was left with the biggest surplus in history, and now were in the biggest deficit in history. Al queda is distributed throughout the whole fucking world, should we just bomb the whole world because of some crazy ass mother fuckers? Al queda knows this, but unfortunately, you dont!
WIERD.,THE RECESSION STARTED UNDER CLINTON?
with the HUGE victories in the middle east and eastern europe toward democracy i believe you might be the only one on the planet in the know who isnt wondering,"was bush right all along?"
learn your politics kiddo
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
at least he could have stood up for our country.clinton was a scum bag who couldnt help but steal 175,000$$ worth of white house furniture when he left.what a joke.
please run hillary in '08,please.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
Your a funny guy! Bush is making millions off of us, and u bitch about 175K, who gives a fuck! Clinton was by far a 10X better president than Bush, no matter what right wing propaganda you try and say, its common sense bro. Every leader in history has a downfall, but Bush, in my opinion, is one of the worst.
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clinton!LOL!CAN YOU SAY IMPEACHMENT?that dumb shit will always be remembered for lying before congress,on national television, and sitting on his ass.what a legacy that is.LOL.
i know that isnt alot of money,but they STOLE it and then had to return it when they got popped.scum.the perfect example of the democrat party is clinton.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
the new york post ran real article about 2 years ago titled " The 25 most evil people of the millennium"
only hitler edgedout clinton by 39 votes.he handily beat STALIN by 20 votes,
sure,clinton is a real legend.keep telling yourself that.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
at least he was our first black president!
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
what do you mean it was only 175k??he was the president?and he is a thief>it is too funny how far some people will go to defend that waste of time.
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say bill clinton was a good president is like saying Max Cleland is a war hero.LOL.
it just isnt true.
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the perfect example of the democrat party is clinton.
A while back you said he was a republican in dems clothing. So which is it? Or is it that it really doesn't matter if its dems or republican because both parties stink of corruption?
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
you're getting too deep for our simple minded, keep it simple stupid resident genius.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
Pisshead I'm with you 100% man. the number one reason we havent caught Osama is because he did the powers at be a favor. We were attacked apon our own accord.
I for one am looking at the next election wondering if the powers at be will figure out a reason to make us keep W in office.
the down economy is all part of their plan to make the US devided by rich and poor, us working for them.
further more I believe that the economy shift is done on purpose to force our younger less fanacial secure men and woman into the armed forces. I was in the military and I can tell you from experience that when it was time to get out Clinton had the economy rolling smooth and I couldnt bail on the Navy fast enough. Our sons and daughters dont stay in the militay from a sense of duty or patriotism anymore, they are there to put food on tables. and if we dont watch it it may be the only steady job to be had.
Not to mention wtf we need all these troops for?? we rolled over our so called largest threat in 2 weeks. Yet the GOV smacks this fear campaghn in our faces evertytime W has something dirty to air. You cant scare me anymore, I dont give a shit if they come on the news telling me that Osama was spotted in Manhatten with a tommygun, Its all desighend to strip you of your civil liberties.I really wish more people would pay fucking attention to what is going on.
In the end I think we invaded Iraq to get the oil to combat Korea, or atleast have some control over them. See I find it more likely that Sadam was selling oil to Korea and W said stop. Sadam says fuck you american pig and off we go. Its all about controling the oil.
On a side note, I know allot of people want hybrid cars and solar power and all that jazz, renewable resources and all, but be carefull what you wish for cause here is the catch. as soon as the automobile companies have sorted out hybrids and such and curb the publics dependency on fossil fuels it also frees up all that juicy petrol for the US war machine. And if i were to speculate further I would say that the current GOV would like nothing better than to have soul control over the gasoline that fuels the tanks and jets. this would all but cripple any sort of real revolt we as the american people could stage against a newly forming police state. Again, its all about the oil.
For all those that will say i am crazy and no such things can happen.
I say this, were the hell you think you are Never Land? this is the world, and nasty things have been happening since the dawn of time. Do you think the Jews had any idea of what lied ahead for them in WW2? It's the same sort of situation here, except they are not seperating us based on religion, they are doing it based on income.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
if anyone knew it was coming who do you think it was???i will lay it out for you.
-in february 1993,the world trade center was bombed by muslim fanatics,killing 5 people,wounding hundreds.
clinton did nothing.
october 1993,eighteen american troops were killed in a savage firefight in somalia.the corpse of one american was dragged through the streets of mogadishu as the somalin hordes cheered.
clinton responded by ordering our troops home.bin laden later told abc news"the youth realized the american soldier is a paper tiger and runs from battle after a few blows."
november 1995,5 americans killed and thiety wounded by a car bomb in saudi arabia set by muslim fanatics.
clinton did nothing.
june 1996 a U.S. Air Forse base in saudi arabia was bombed by fanatics.
clinton did nothing.
months later,saddam attacked the kurdish city of erbil.clinton lobbed some bombs into iraq,HUNDREDS of miles from saddams forces.
november 1997,iraq refuced to allow un weapons inspectors to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a u2 spy plane.
clinton did nothing.
february 1998,clinton threatened to bomb iraq,but called it off because the un said no.
august 7,1998,U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by al queda.
clinton did nothing.
august 20,monica lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before a grand jury.
clinton responded by bombing afghanistan and sudan,severely damaging a aspirin factory.
december 16,the house of representatives prepared to impeach clinton the next day.
clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against iraq.
october 2000,our warship the USS COLE was attacked by al queda.
CLINTON DID NOTHING.
This whole bit here is mindless to look at i think. not knocking your facts but you are blinded by the same shit they blind us all with. You only get 2 choices for president.
you have to pick dumb or dumber.
But none the less it doesnt matter who you vote for, its the same mother fuckers runnin the show. And its clear those assholes have a hankering for world domination. That was simply the build up of the fear campaighn, they have to get you scared for your life before you will let go of your freedoms.
I know its hard for everyone to let go of what they have been taught all their lives, in school or at home. but the plain and simple truth is we have all been duped into beleiveing that the threat to our country lies outside our borders.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
there are more people outside this country who want to kill us than there are in it thats for sure.however there are tons of people already here who want to inflict damage also.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
wanting to kill americans is a far cry from actually being able to do it. and as for the number of people actually able to inflict damage apon us is minimal considering the worlds population.
Besides I'm not saying our GOV wants us dead, I'm saying they want us more or less as slaves. Oh they plan on paying us but my bet is it will be hardly enough to survive on.
Thats why our GOV supplements millions of incomes every year with programs, that are not desighend to help you. they are there to keep you dependent on them, so when you lose them you have no choice but to,
1. enter the military(so you can further the facist ways of W)
2. get a minimum wage job (pays almost as well as the military)
3. or turn to crime( in which case you go to prison and W's pals make money off your ass in prison)
4. lets not discount entrepenuership (sp) ( isnt that why we are on this board?)
think about it for a second Amsterdam, why has Bush dropped so many public programs? its not funding, I'ts been proven that they can find the money for them. Bottom line is keeping those programs running isnt good for the armed forces and thats what W is building atm.
one last thing, if you believe that the relativly low numbers of actual terrorist that can hurt us, is what threatens the United States and our way of life you are not seeing things clearly in my opinion. the imagfe of terrorists is merely the engine driveing the movement to rip your liberties away from you.
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Originally Posted by Marlboroman
wanting to kill americans is a far cry from actually being able to do it. and as for the number of people actually able to inflict damage apon us is minimal considering the worlds population.
Besides I'm not saying our GOV wants us dead, I'm saying they want us more or less as slaves. Oh they plan on paying us but my bet is it will be hardly enough to survive on.
Thats why our GOV supplements millions of incomes every year with programs, that are not desighend to help you. they are there to keep you dependent on them, so when you lose them you have no choice but to,
1. enter the military(so you can further the facist ways of W)
2. get a minimum wage job (pays almost as well as the military)
3. or turn to crime( in which case you go to prison and W's pals make money off your ass in prison)
4. lets not discount entrepenuership (sp) ( but isnt that why we are on this board?)
think about it for a second Amsterdam, why has Bush dropped so many public programs? its not funding, I'ts been proven that they can find the money for them. Bottom line is keeping those programs running isnt good for the armed forces and thats what W is building atm.
one last thing, if you believe that the relativly low numbers of actual terrorist that can hurt us, is what threatens the United States and our way of life you are not seeing things clearly in my opinion. the imagfe of terrorists is merely the engine driveing the movement to rip your liberties away from you.
why dont you apply for student loans like everyone else?i paid my way.you pay yours.make your own way.
you guys be scared if you want.i am gonna use the govt and all that it has given me with chances and make it.if you cant make it in this country you are in trouble.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
just the title of the post is silly.the 9/11 truth movement.there is no movement.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
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Originally Posted by Marlboroman
wanting to kill americans is a far cry from actually being able to do it. and as for the number of people actually able to inflict damage apon us is minimal considering the worlds population.
Besides I'm not saying our GOV wants us dead, I'm saying they want us more or less as slaves. Oh they plan on paying us but my bet is it will be hardly enough to survive on.
Thats why our GOV supplements millions of incomes every year with programs, that are not desighend to help you. they are there to keep you dependent on them, so when you lose them you have no choice but to,
1. enter the military(so you can further the facist ways of W)
2. get a minimum wage job (pays almost as well as the military)
3. or turn to crime( in which case you go to prison and W's pals make money off your ass in prison)
4. lets not discount entrepenuership (sp) ( isnt that why we are on this board?)
think about it for a second Amsterdam, why has Bush dropped so many public programs? its not funding, I'ts been proven that they can find the money for them. Bottom line is keeping those programs running isnt good for the armed forces and thats what W is building atm.
one last thing, if you believe that the relativly low numbers of actual terrorist that can hurt us, is what threatens the United States and our way of life you are not seeing things clearly in my opinion. the imagfe of terrorists is merely the engine driveing the movement to rip your liberties away from you.
See, then you have your Far left wingers. These guys are REALLY Paronoid. I mean come on. Bush isnt that smart to think of that theory.
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Originally Posted by XTC
See, then you have your Far left wingers. These guys are REALLY Paronoid. I mean come on. Bush isnt that smart to think of that theory.
Bush didnt think it up, he is only executeing it.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
why dont you apply for student loans like everyone else?i paid my way.you pay yours.make your own way.
you guys be scared if you want.i am gonna use the govt and all that it has given me with chances and make it.if you cant make it in this country you are in trouble.
I'm not in money trouble Amsterdam, I dont need a student loan. your the one thats scared enough to let go of your liberties.
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Originally Posted by Marlboroman
I'm not in money trouble Amsterdam, I dont need a student loan. your the one thats scared enough to let go of your liberties.
i bet you cant name one liberty i or you have lost without making it up.name 1.
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Originally Posted by XTC
See, then you have your Far left wingers. These guys are REALLY Paronoid. I mean come on. Bush isnt that smart to think of that theory.
the republicans love that people think bush is stupid.he was smart enough to smoker the dems in two elections and shape the political landscape in the republicans favor.the dems have turned into children and whine about everything.
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Originally Posted by XTC
See, then you have your Far left wingers. These guys are REALLY Paronoid. I mean come on. Bush isnt that smart to think of that theory.
Also just by calling me a far left wing means you actually beleive there is a left and a right..... but if you read what im saying, there is no difference between them. Both parties have the same goal, and thats to control the masses of american people. But it wont stop there because it cant, once a system of GOV like that starts to take over it will cicle the globe.
and since we only Korea and China stand in the way, we will simply starve their oil supply until they have no choice but to join us as well.
what im saying doesnt happen over night you see. If you put the frogs in the hot water they jump out. you have to heat the water while they swim.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
I am assuming you didn't vote then.. If that is the case.... Then you have you non voting, so they can bitch at whoever gets elected
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
the republicans love that people think bush is stupid.he was smart enough to smoker the dems in two elections and shape the political landscape in the republicans favor.the dems have turned into children and whine about everything.
Im not republic or democrat but like i said before, there is no difference. its a made up conflict these days. they might have actually had some different points of view once apon a time. but as for anything that really matters and the future of the US these guys are together in their policies.
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Originally Posted by XTC
I am assuming you didn't vote then.. If that is the case.... Then you have you non voting, so they can bitch at whoever gets elected
I voted, but not for either of them, why only 2 choices tho?
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Originally Posted by Marlboroman
Im not republic or democrat but like i said before, there is no difference. its a made up conflict these days. they might have actually had some different points of view once apon a time. but as for anything that really matters and the future of the US these guys are together in their policies.
please dont say you voted for badnarick?
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
please dont say you voted for badnarick?
nope
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
I already asked that.. He did
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
Not Nader.. Dont say him... He wants American to cut off Big Ass Companies so we can lose even more money
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
thank god,so someone tell me exactly what freedoms they have personally lost?any?
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
and bill mahr in '08 xtc?c'mon.
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The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement
I never said it was a good idea.. I just said I heard about it
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and it was serious or he needed to create a little hype to get people to watch his show.i would guess the latter.
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Originally Posted by XTC
Not Nader.. Dont say him... He wants American to cut off Big Ass Companies so we can lose even more money
I did not vote for Nader, but it is those big bussinesses that control allot of the policies that are in effect. this aspect of it is about money istead of oil.
its about addicting your children to legal GOV supported Pharms.
its about giveing a credit card to a 20 year old kid with a 10k limit and then takeing away his or her right to claim bankrupty to get out from under the money blanket that covers them.
granted they should have been taught how to manage money, and you can say that they should go to school and whatnot. but thats not going to stop the credit card companies from soliciting the younger less money adept peoples. in fact giveing them the tools to indebt whole generations of people with no real way out.
see once you get into credit card debt they start banging you for 20% interest after time. thereby makeing your interest payment more than the principal amount. then take away your right to claim bankruptcy and now you will never get out of debt. unless of course you go into the military get 3 hots and a cot and spend no money then maybe you can get out.
your gonna say that its their fault for getting into that situation, and yes it is. but thats not stopping it from happening is it? and that still doesnt take away from the fact that the credit card companies get you into debt on purpose. the things im stateing are not nearly the end of the exapmles. its just scratching the surface.